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funkymonkey1111
09-07-2016, 16:09
The old brass in the chest move....
http://www.denverpost.com/2016/09/06/woman-at-centennial-firing-range-accidentally-shoots-herself-in-hand/
KevDen2005
09-07-2016, 16:16
Contemplating buying a gun and shot herself.
Man, they preach and preach about the brass dance, too. They ought to pass out large dickies to wear when people are trying out guns and wearing inappropriate clothing.
"Honestly, officer, I was just trying to help her avoid the brass dance by offering her my dickie."
Deadpool_9
09-07-2016, 18:01
This type of wording from the article does not help gun-ignorant people understand guns:
"when the gun accidentally fired"
The boob apron. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=boTWgTDV2w8 nsfw language.
"Honestly, officer, I was just trying to help her avoid the brass dance by offering her my dickie."
LOL!
spongejosh
09-07-2016, 20:01
This type of wording from the article does not help gun-ignorant people understand guns:
"when the gun accidentally fired"
That's what grabbed my attention the most out of that article. It must have been one of those evil black guns. [facepalm]
colorider
09-07-2016, 22:26
Situation could have ended MUCH worse. I feel some of the local ranges do not take care of the new shooters worth a damn. The rent them a gun, give them some simple over the counter instruction and let them go. The RO does not watch them close enough or give them enough instruction on safety and what to do if things malfunction or as in this example, a shell goes down the shirt. An RO should be by a gun renters side at all times. I know some ranges have limited resources, but this is a serious issue. At another local range a gal did the same thing an put a round into the bulletproof glass separating the bays. It missed her leg and the guy she was with by a fraction of an inch. She bent over with the gun to try and get the hot casing out of her shirt. Left powder burns on her yoga pants.
I would be willing to give private lessons to new female shooters. Especially if they showed up wearing "inappropriate clothing."
Just tossing that out there.
kidicarus13
09-07-2016, 23:00
Obviously a slow news day.
Honey Badger282.8
09-07-2016, 23:22
It's not as bad as the guy suing Glock for not having a traditional external safety on the gun because he shot himself while he was trying to attach a light to it.
I would be willing to give private lessons to new female shooters. Especially if they showed up wearing "inappropriate clothing."
Just tossing that out there.
Yer a good man Ray!
You know, if they'd just take their shirts off, then the brass would be unlikely to get trapped and cause burns...[ROFL1]
I'm glad no one else was hurt, and her injuries were relatively minor.
You know, if they'd just take their shirts off, then the brass would be unlikely to get trapped and cause burns...[ROFL1]
I'm glad no one else was hurt, and her injuries were relatively minor.
How would we ever get any shooting in at the range...
How would we ever get any shooting in at the range...
I would get off at least one shot.
I'm just happy the round didn't go through her hand and end up in someone else. Inadequate clothing for the range is often overlooked. I can't recall how many times brass has deflected off of the side of a booth at an indoor range and hit me. As someone else already posted, many ranges don't give quality time & instruction to people who are completely ignorant to how firearms work. That's how crap like this happens. All they care about is bringing in the $$$.
I've seen some people trash the NRA Basic Pistol course, but if it's taught properly, it's very informative. If I had more time on my hands, I'd get back into teaching again.
colorider
09-08-2016, 15:25
Keep your booger hook off the bang switch
Each time that I've witnessed a women renting a gun from CGC (including me), the guy behind the counter explains about the gun, shows where the safety is, and talks about brass dance. The counter guys then speak with the RO, who also explain once they go back to the range. A problem I've witnessed is that the women that are renting guns either don't take gun safety seriously, or they turn into a combination of a Golden Retriever (SQUIRREL!) and a 'does-this-gun-make-my-butt-and-boobs-look-big?' type. The latter type also wear low-cut tops and heels. I'm surprised this doesn't happen more often, save that the ROs are usually right there as they're shooting. It's an unfortunate thing, but I'm glad there weren't more serious injuries.
How can you be reaching into your shirt, with your open hand, then shoot your upen hand? Without shooting yourself in the chest?
Gun more or less back in the retention ready position (note I'm not implying that retention ready was a deliberate position), then the support hand sweeps in front of the muzzle on the way to the neckline of the shirt. Now combine the finger being on the trigger, reacting to pain and poor timing.
...just a guess.
O2
I don't know why Centennial even has RO's in the range. They are not effective in preventing anything from happening and usually only end up as an ineffective "Witness" of something that does go bad.
As for the need for more training, babysitting, seat belts, air bags, helmets or whatever else "Protective" bullshit, its just that bullshit. If you choose to ignore the facts of the situation and it results in blowing holes in yourself or others then that is the price you pay for being a jackass. Some lessons are harder to learn than others, especially for the ignorant.
There is a reason why I choose to not shoot at public ranges very often and these jackasses are a primary reason.
Why is a t or a button up shirt not offered as part of the protective device suite? Can't shoot without glasses or earpro, make a cover shirt mandantory.
funkymonkey1111
09-12-2016, 10:42
Why is a t or a button up shirt not offered as part of the protective device suite? Can't shoot without glasses or earpro, make a cover shirt mandantory.
basic dress code. it's not like it's unprecedented--many golf courses require a minimum dress code.
Who hasn't had brass land between their safety glasses and forehead? Maybe they should also provide a hat that matches the shirt. Hell, throw in some close-toed shoes to complete the ensemble.
Who hasn't had brass land between their safety glasses and forehead? Maybe they should also provide a hat that matches the shirt. Hell, throw in some close-toed shoes to complete the ensemble.
I haven't.
I had a 22lr shell weld itself to my back though after it flew up and landed inside my shirt collar. Fun time.
I don't know why Centennial even has RO's in the range. They are not effective in preventing anything from happening and usually only end up as an ineffective "Witness" of something that does go bad.
As for the need for more training, babysitting, seat belts, air bags, helmets or whatever else "Protective" bullshit, its just that bullshit. If you choose to ignore the facts of the situation and it results in blowing holes in yourself or others then that is the price you pay for being a jackass. Some lessons are harder to learn than others, especially for the ignorant.
There is a reason why I choose to not shoot at public ranges very often and these jackasses are a primary reason.
While I agree with your tone (jackasses need to take this more seriously) I don't agree that the ROs are not effective. I've seen them step in with many situations, curbing what may have turned out to be careless or ignorant behavior. Frankly, becoming a part of someone's 'lesson' is not anyone's ideal situation, so I am grateful that the ROs are there. They're a lot more alert than DCF ever was.
You choose not to shoot at a public range for personal reasons. That's great. Many of us do choose a public range because we recognize the need for more training, more practice, and pretty much more opportunity to learn what we can. I suspect that you are more advanced in knowledge and practice with firearms than me; I'm glad of the safety net that is provided by the ROs when I am renting an unfamiliar firearm or have an issue. The ROs are an integral part of that equation.
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