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BushMasterBoy
09-11-2016, 11:35
Just saw this video of Hillary Clinton leaving the 9/11 memorial ceremony. She wobbles about and almost falls to the ground. Alex Jones has this video, but I know some Mods really dislike him, so I posted from another youtube source. Looks like she has some serious medical problem...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtQVIcxq82E

newracer
09-11-2016, 11:38
Looks like Weekend at Bernies.


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colorider
09-11-2016, 11:48
Seizures.

Bailey Guns
09-11-2016, 11:54
How do we know that's Hillary? I couldn't ID her from that video.

Nevermind...campaign confirms it. I just hate to trust AJ or other anonymous videos for something so important.

ChadAmberg
09-11-2016, 11:55
I know that they recently had a survey of a large group of doctors, and showed them videos like this. Something like 80% said she's obviously too sick to be president.

Of course, I think they said the same thing about the Emperor, but he was just becoming a sith lord.

Aloha_Shooter
09-11-2016, 11:59
It's almost in her favor to air stuff like this because it'll suck in the Dems who really don't want her to be president but could bring themselves to pull the lever thinking she'll be out of office within a year and they'll still control it with Tim Kaine.

StagLefty
09-11-2016, 12:02
Assholitis-very common with politicians

brutal
09-11-2016, 12:03
It's almost in her favor to air stuff like this because it'll suck in the Dems who really don't want her to be president but could bring themselves to pull the lever thinking she'll be out of office within a year and they'll still control it with Tim Kaine.

My thoughts as well.

Right now, she is Trump's best chance for success if she stays healthy and makes it through to Nov 8.

Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them that this is all a ploy. Rotten bastards to the core.

Bailey Guns
09-11-2016, 12:16
An "overheating" episode. Yeah, that's it. She's feeling the warmth of hell...a place she'll be intimately familiar with sooner or later.

Zundfolge
09-11-2016, 12:44
An "overheating" episode. Yeah, that's it. She's feeling the warmth of hell...a place she'll be intimately familiar with sooner or later.

Thermoregulatory Disorder is a symptom of Parkinson's.

fitz19d
09-11-2016, 12:45
https://youtu.be/YzZl9j580tM


Same video zoomed with stupid added sound but does appear she loses something metal or of pants

Jim B
09-11-2016, 13:13
High of 84 with 36% humidity in New York. Not very hot/humid: https://weather.com/weather/today/l/USNY0996:1:US

BPTactical
09-11-2016, 13:32
Don't worry- her campaign will spin it as "Overwhelmed by the emotion of the moment"

Hummer
09-11-2016, 13:53
Looks like Weekend at Bernies.


[LOL]

flogger
09-11-2016, 14:05
Don't worry- her campaign will spin it as "Overwhelmed by the emotion of the moment"

Spot on.

rondog
09-11-2016, 14:44
I didn't find it disturbing.....

thebolt
09-11-2016, 15:06
Interesting video reporting Hillary's medical issues and showing the converted ambulance which she travels in. They refer to the Dr accompanying her as Dr. Frankenstein but the video makes some good points about her health issues.

https://youtu.be/fDpiYfdYb-w

KestrelBike
09-11-2016, 15:14
https://youtu.be/YzZl9j580tM


Same video zoomed with stupid added sound but does appear she loses something metal or of pants
She apparently lost a shoe that had fallen under the van, which was then given to a detached part of her security detail
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/09/11/hillary-clinton-has-medical-episode-at-911-ceremony-source-says.html

Gman
09-11-2016, 15:31
I remember some initial curiosity about Bill Clinton getting Interferon injections prior to winning the election. That seemed to go nowhere. I'm sure whatever is going on with HRC will also be buried.

DenverGP
09-11-2016, 15:40
She apparently lost a shoe that had fallen under the van

The last time Hillary lost a shoe was when a house fell on her.

Aardvark
09-11-2016, 15:40
Only thing disturbing is she wasn't flopping on the ground like a fresh landed snake-head fish on a red ant pile.

Gman
09-11-2016, 15:41
An "overheating" episode.
Didn't they get the memo? It's called "Climate Change".

KestrelBike
09-11-2016, 15:43
I remember some initial curiosity about Bill Clinton getting Interferon injections prior to winning the election. That seemed to go nowhere. I'm sure whatever is going on with HRC will also be buried.
Why was he supposedly getting those? Quick google of interferon injections said they're used to treat things like leukemia, melanoma, AIDS, hepatitis (B & C). Melanoma wouldn't be a shocker, even my dad had those (grew up on a ranch.. the sun exposure adds up), but it sure would be funny if he got Hep B/C from a hooker.

sneakerd
09-11-2016, 15:55
I doubt this anything more than a case of being in the heat and not drinking enough water. She recovered very quickly after going to daughter's apartment. Or she may have been standing too long with her knees locked. That'll do it every time.

BushMasterBoy
09-11-2016, 16:15
Now the press is reporting she has pneumonia. I admit I have had a virus/upper respiratory infection for the last week. Maybe a sign of the coming flu season?

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/hillary-clinton-left-9-11-service-feeling-overheated-article-1.2787381

Bailey Guns
09-11-2016, 16:26
The last time Hillary lost a shoe was when a house fell on her.

Nice!

Hummer
09-11-2016, 16:33
http://www.thepubliceditor.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Hillary_Weekend_At_Hillarys.jpg


http://media.dcentertainment.com/sites/default/files/imce/2015/08-AUG/MAD-Magazine-Weakened-by-Bernie_55cb7b561295c6.04164823.jpg

Skip
09-11-2016, 16:49
Anyone who questions her health is a sexist conspiracy theorist.

Therefore, you're all sexist conspiracy theorists and likely irredeemable.

newracer
09-11-2016, 16:49
http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/4232/6230/original.jpg

Squeeze
09-11-2016, 17:05
My thoughts as well.

Right now, she is Trump's best chance for success if she stays healthy and makes it through to Nov 8.

Honestly, I wouldn't put it past them that this is all a ploy. Rotten bastards to the core.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Great-Kazoo
09-11-2016, 17:27
Anyone who questions her health is a sexist conspiracy theorist.

Therefore, you're all sexist conspiracy theorists and likely irredeemable.

More like, Deplorable

Great-Kazoo
09-11-2016, 17:33
The comments in the wapo (Clizzlia picce) are something i wish i came up with.

The buzzards are circling over Hillary's Chappaqua home. She's looking like one of Obama's shovel ready jobs.

When Hillary says she needs your support, she's really means it.

Is Hillary being treated under a bronze Obamacare Plan?

If she has pneumonia, she should be wearing a mask in her photo ops. I mean, if she cares about anyone other than herself, that is.

waiting up for Bill til 4 in the morning 5 days a week will take a toll...

As Howard Cossell might say "And DOWN goes Clinton"

Skip
09-11-2016, 17:34
More like, Deplorable

A deplorable person can be redeemed.

People who question the Queen are irredeemable.

KestrelBike
09-11-2016, 18:28
Kinda curious that her conditions seem to be getting worse as time goes on. I'm just not buying that it's "Pneumonia", which would apparently be pretty rare with how a 69 year old who's been having so many un-named issues can be diagnosed on Friday, then be walking around waving & smiling a day & a half later on Sunday, her fainting episode notwithstanding.

Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised that if she doesn't drop out and keeps up the pace, she could really debilitate herself into something so serious that there's no way the press could spin it. It seems like she's right on track to completely crap out just before Nov. 06.

wyome
09-11-2016, 18:41
Trump should pour on the coals and campaign non-stop....criss cross the country go to places they normally don't go...then call her out for not getting out to see all the people...

BPTactical
09-11-2016, 19:00
FWIW- http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/report-democrats-may-hold-emergency-meeting-consider-replacing-hillary-clinton/

ChadAmberg
09-11-2016, 19:24
"The current model shorted out. Thaw out another T-1000 and prep it for implanting the eeeeeevil..."

roberth
09-11-2016, 20:16
It doesn't disturb me in the least. What disturbs me is the millions of redacted that will vote for this reprehensible human.

Big E3
09-11-2016, 20:58
I think it’s a set up so she won’t have to face live TV in a debate with Trump. They know she can’t keep up with a live debate in her current medical condition. This way they can tape all of her responses to canned rehearsed questions because she’s “Too Sick” to appear in public. They will set up Trump to appear live with questions that he has never seen before and she’ll be on a video feed with prerecorded responses. They have known for a long time she could not do a live debate.

Skip
09-12-2016, 08:35
I think it’s a set up so she won’t have to face live TV in a debate with Trump. They know she can’t keep up with a live debate in her current medical condition. This way they can tape all of her responses to canned rehearsed questions because she’s “Too Sick” to appear in public. They will set up Trump to appear live with questions that he has never seen before and she’ll be on a video feed with prerecorded responses. They have known for a long time she could not do a live debate.

I don't know if that works because, it would appear, she just surrendered whatever chance she had. On the very week Trump was closing in on the polling (within error) too.

The interesting thing to me is that all of Clinton's criminal behavior/lying didn't disqualify her. She likely sold secret/access/favor for Clinton Foundation donations. This is the kind of elitism that Dems claim to hate (selling out the people to corporate/foreign interests). Borderline treason and Dems were cool with it, even defending it. They re-printed her lies and DNC talking points. Even tried to vilify anyone who pointed out her crimes were serious and the lies didn't make sense (still don't).

But now her health has (apparently) disqualified her.

What would you rather have: a sick president or a traitor president? I'll take the sick president over the traitor. Dems were cool with the traitor but can't tolerate the sick woman?

Aloha_Shooter
09-12-2016, 09:43
The Dems will use the "pneumonia" excuse to get her out of the debates and public appearances. They're doing everything they can to hold on to power -- and the Clintons NEED to hold on to power to avoid prosecution for tax fraud, violating the Records Act, misuse of official powers, etc. I think one thing Trump has really underestimated is the Clintons' desperation to hold onto power to avoid investigations and prosecution. A clean sweep at DOJ and IRS will really upset some apple carts.

ray1970
09-12-2016, 10:09
Or they'll use her health to pull her and put Bernie in at the last minute.

hurley842002
09-12-2016, 10:13
Or they'll use her health to pull her and put Bernie in at the last minute.
Yup. I hear a lot folks who are just tickled with Hillary's health issues, personally I think anyone the Dems put forth other than Hillary, can beat Trump.

liberty19
09-12-2016, 11:02
I have been thinking for months that the Clinton machine will find out a way to skip out of the debates. This may be the excuse they are looking for. [dig] But, of course, if she can't even show up for a debate, how is she supposed to run the country?[Sarcasm2]

Rucker61
09-12-2016, 11:03
Yup. I hear a lot folks who are just tickled with Hillary's health issues, personally I think anyone the Dems put forth other than Hillary, can beat Trump.

I agree, and I think that anyone else the Republicans put forth could easily beat Hillary. It's a perfect storm.

davsel
09-12-2016, 12:43
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/09/07/20160912_clintoff_0.jpg

kwando
09-12-2016, 12:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr1IDQ2V1eM&app=desktop

TheGrey
09-12-2016, 12:56
Scott Adams (creator of Dilbert ) has some very astute points. I don't know that I agree with everything he says or posulates, but he makes some excellent points and some scarily accurate predictions in some of his older posts.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150264994381/the-race-for-president-is-probably-over

Zundfolge
09-12-2016, 13:01
Or they'll use her health to pull her and put Bernie in at the last minute.

DNC hates Bernie, if they replace her it'll either be Biden or Kaine.


http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150264994381/the-race-for-president-is-probably-over
From Adams' lips to God's ear.

But I think he underestimates 1) the power of the MSM to cover for the Democrats (and in particular the Clintons) and 2) the fact that this race is as close as it is (and Obama got two terms) is proof that either a large percentage of the American population is too stupid to make a proper decision on who leads the country ... OR the system is rigged.

Monky
09-12-2016, 13:26
But I think he underestimates 1) the power of the MSM to cover for the Democrats (and in particular the Clintons) and 2) the fact that this race is as close as it is (and Obama got two terms) is proof that either a large percentage of the American population is too stupid to make a proper decision on who leads the country ... OR the system is rigged.

The system doesn't have to be rigged when the dems count on fraud, and lack of media coverage. Can't forget how much they love those voters who vote for free stuff..

TRnCO
09-12-2016, 13:43
the fact that this race is as close as it is (and Obama got two terms) is proof that either a large percentage of the American population is too stupid to make a proper decision on who leads the country THIS for the win.

Skip
09-12-2016, 13:55
Yup. I hear a lot folks who are just tickled with Hillary's health issues, personally I think anyone the Dems put forth other than Hillary, can beat Trump.

And how do they put forth anyone else?

The Dems (and the establishment) are "all in" for Hillary. Look at what they to Saunders and his supporters. That was a Civil War that went unreported because Dems own the media. They did it for a reason. And look at these RINOs endorsing her. This is bigger than Clinton.

Plus, the establishment doesn't want to the write the checks Bernie the Socialist would demand. They like to talk and feel good, but they don't like to pay. This is why all those super-delegates went to Clinton. They don't want Bernie and won't take him.

Kaine? Okay, how is someone who didn't even enter the race in the primary better than Bernie? Uh-oh, another Civil War.

Ultimately anyone they run other than Clinton/Saunders has the ability to blow up because they haven't been through the primary process (where the skeletons are dug up, evaluated, and then re-buried).

The only thing this would do is give the #NeverTrump people another option, but Trump can't lose them because they're already lost. Meanwhile, the DNC keeps losing with millenials and independents because this constant lying/deception/inner circle elite stuff is exactly what people (of all ideologies) hate. Trump is out talking to people, shaking hands, etc... Hillary is busy lying. And how condescending of Democrats/Dem-Media to think voters don't deserve the truth!!!

And the best part... All weekend Dem-Media waited to shift this story onto Trump on the basis of an insensitive tweet or comment that was bound to happen any second. He didn't take the bait.

I'm not saying Trump is solving all our problems, or cheerleading. But all of this strengthens Trump no matter what Dems do. I'd hate to be in that room at DNCHQ today! [LOL]


P.S. They have known about her pneumonia* for months now (possibly longer). They knew the 9/11 memorial event (where Clinton literally stumbles in full view of the world) was coming. They did nothing to plan/prepare. The lies they told up until Sunday morning show how committed they are to Clinton.

* It isn't pneumonia

DireWolf
09-12-2016, 14:02
It's not just lack of media coverage, it's the type of coverage....

Sure, lots of hate going around for Trump....HOWEVER, I firmly believe that, other than the criminals/traitors who would be cut off by a Trump Presidency, that hate is almost entirely a result of the onslaught of concerted and continuous attacks across nearly every media platform (of course a non-politician will be less likely to polish every turd before it comes out of their mouth, and you can never make everyone happy, especially criminals and traitors seeing a potential end to their festivities)...

Those quisling media fucks have put out more bullshit and deliberate/destabilizing misinformation than I think anyone (living or dead) could have withstood without seeing the same level of hatred that Trump has been getting (probably way more) and I believe they are the most dangerous traitors of all (e.g. very few of the shitbird traitor pols would be able to get away with what they have been without the media running decades of continuous interference and all the associated collusion/payoffs, etc.).....

Kraven251
09-12-2016, 14:11
... I'm sure whatever is going on with HRC will also be buried.

Wishful thinking?

BushMasterBoy
09-12-2016, 14:23
And to think all this time I have been paying child support on Bill Clintons' baby in Arkansas. Makes sense now why the FBI won't return my calls. They are co-opting the Clintons! I was active duty, the military has my DNA profile. They just can't face the truth! Something happened in Arkansas that is being covered up. Not to mention a personal friend dying from a murder and his former girl friend being tried for it. She was found not guilty. He was shot with his own gun...

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/1998/oct/15/mystifying-murder-and-del-mar-doc/#

Rumline
09-12-2016, 16:23
And how do they put forth anyone else?

The Dems (and the establishment) are "all in" for Hillary. [snip...]
Good points.

CO Hugh
09-12-2016, 16:55
An "overheating" episode. Yeah, that's it. She's feeling the warmth of hell...a place she'll be intimately familiar with sooner or later.


I figured she can't walk due to her cloven feet, tail is what's hidden in pants.

roberth
09-12-2016, 17:29
The old hag is in worse shape than I thought.

Great-Kazoo
09-12-2016, 19:33
The old hag is in worse shape than I thought.

Still pissed she passed you over as her gynecologist? Let it go man, let it go.

roberth
09-12-2016, 20:44
Still pissed she passed you over as her gynecologist? Let it go man, let it go.

[LOL]


I had a can of Raid, a garden hose, and a winch, she has Huma.

Skip
09-13-2016, 10:54
Still pissed she passed you over as her gynecologist? Let it go man, let it go.

Mentioning Cankle's unmentionables should be immediate grounds for a ban.

Gman
09-13-2016, 13:16
Now that they can no longer hide the facts, HRC's campaign is now going to offer us the truth about the situation. Sure they are. [Sarcasm2]

asmo
09-13-2016, 14:44
Gary worked closely with a good friend of mine who vouches for him:

http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/

Great-Kazoo
09-13-2016, 16:11
Gary worked closely with a good friend of mine who vouches for him:

http://ijr.com/opinion/2016/09/260018-protected-hillary-clinton-secret-service-heres-noticed-fainting-video/


Don't forget the mysterious editing of Bill during his interview, saying this has happened before.

roberth
09-13-2016, 16:46
This is just another proof of "the ends justify the means".

HRC is very ill but in order commandeer the country further (the ends) the communists and their co-conspirators in the media and general population will do anything to prevent the release of true facts (the means).

BushMasterBoy
09-13-2016, 16:47
Quoted from the Secret Service Officer in the aforementioned article:

"Here’s what was very disturbing to me: after the medical episode, she went to her daughter’s apartment and not to an Emergency Room. Secret Service procedure for each detail dictates that everyone knows which hospital to go to depending on the event - heart failure, gunshot, you name it. It is very revealing that, whatever is wrong with her, she is being treated by her own private medical specialists in secret and, judging by the ballet-like reaction by her detail, they have dealt with this before."

Great-Kazoo
09-13-2016, 18:41
The questions now are :

1: Is HRC really all in. OR........... stuck because the puppetmasters will not let her go

leading to

#2: Did Bill say she's had these issues in the past, hoping the there's still time for her to back out.

3: Were the Clintons the ones to "pull the trigger" on those deceased. Or.. higher up the food chain.

The Clinton Crime Syndicate reminds me of the movie, The Parallax View. Especially with those "Conservatives for Clinton" sell outs.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071970/

BushMasterBoy
09-13-2016, 19:18
If Hillary wins, Bill gets a third term. It is that simple. Constitutional fraud. Or maybe appoint Bill to the Supreme Court. The possibilities are endless.

exxonv
09-13-2016, 20:33
Conspiracy theory alert...

What if this is all an orchestrated act to give Obama his third term?

I'm only half joking...

asmo
09-13-2016, 20:49
Conspiracy theory alert...

What if this is all an orchestrated act to give Obama his third term?

I'm only half joking...


More plausible:. What if this is all being orchestrated by Putin to make sure Trump wins?

..hold on someone is at the door, I'll be right back.

exxonv
09-13-2016, 21:00
LOL - either way, this is all very strange!

roberth
09-13-2016, 21:13
No on Putin - he wants a weak person and Obama/HRC fit that bill. Trump is the last guy Putin wants in the office of President of the USA. The reason HRC said that about Putin/Trump was to project her own machinations with Putin on to Trump. The left always projects their reflection on the other team...always. Example - When a conservative is called out for being racist by a leftist it isn't because the conservative is racist, it is because the leftist is a racist and is projecting their own racism on the conservative in order to make the leftist appear non-racist.

The left is all about fiction, everything they do and say is a fiction, usually to cover for their own bad acts.

None of this is strange, this is all very normal for communists. We're just seeing communists unveil themselves in a way we haven't seen before in this country but this has all been seen in other communist countries.

Bailey Guns
09-13-2016, 21:21
^^ Yep. Liberalism is built on lies. Everything is a lie. Always has been, always will be.

asmo
09-13-2016, 21:22
No on Putin - he wants a weak person and Obama/HRC fit that bill. Trump is the last guy Putin wants in the office of President of the USA.

Umm.. you do realize that most of Trump's staff is currently on, or recently has been, on Putin's payroll, right? This isn't conspiracy theory, this is admitted fact. Google Paul Manafort and/or Carter Page.

Trump is massively Pro-Russian/Putin. The Russian (state) media is also massively pro-Trump

Aloha_Shooter
09-13-2016, 21:34
I'm sticking with this all being an act to suck in the Democrats who can't stand her still voting D because they think she'll be out of office inside of a year and they'll keep control of the Oval Office.

roberth
09-13-2016, 21:51
Manafort resigned from Trump's campaign on August 19 - I had to get past 4 pages of leftist drivel to find that out.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2016/08/19/trump-campaign-chairman-paul-manafort-resigns/

Carter Page, who worked in Russia at U.S. investment bank Merrill Lynch, not for the country of Russia.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-trump-advisers-russia-credentials-come-under-scrutiny-2016-8

davsel
09-14-2016, 11:51
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/hah-hah-fox-news-mocks-clinton-hacks-saying-phrase-power-describe-sick-hillary/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E96lAHygeIU


Hillary Powers Through the stairs

http://16004-presscdn-0-50.pagely.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/hillary-stairs-575x386.jpg

Skip
09-14-2016, 14:35
Conspiracy theory alert...

What if this is all an orchestrated act to give Obama his third term?

I'm only half joking...

I'm not sure it's even half funny.

Think of the possible scenarios...

1. Clinton stays in, spending the next two months defending on email/treason and health...
1a. Loses (polling is going that way as I type even suggesting she may lose the EC)
1b. Wins
2. Clinton is replaced by Sanders, elites rebel, still a big chance they lose in Nov
3. Clinton is replaced by X, Berners rebel, guarantying a loss in Nov


So one/four of those scenarios ends well for Dems. And it requires she recover in the polls WHILE having nothing new come out about the email scandals. And it requires she be able to recover from her pneumonia* well enough to make that lie seem true and debate Trump.

Now consider that Dem elite know all of this now and they've known for months (even while in the primary). Consider that Obama has declared Trump will not be president while his party pushed forward someone he knew was unelectable on multiple fronts. And yes, Obama has all the dirt on Clinton's treason and pressured Comey (via Lynch) to come up with a reason to let it slide.

What would they do? Turn over the massive amount of power consolidated in the Executive to Trump with uncertainty of control in Congress? And the next president will nominate two Supreme Court justices (at min). That's a disaster for Democrats and that is why they are so hysterical.

If scenario #2 or 3 were going to happen it would have happened on Monday. They'd want to make that decision ASAP to start introducing a new candidate and get the Dem Civil War out of the way. Right now, they have less than two months and can decide how they want to lose (defending Hillary or fighting over another nominee), intervention withstanding.

So how likely is it that the election would be postponed due to unprecedented events?


*It ain't pneumonia

newracer
09-14-2016, 14:50
An election cannot be postponed.

Skip
09-14-2016, 14:56
An election cannot be postponed.

The word "state" means "federal"
Benghazi was caused by a YouTube video (ETA: which was used to ruin that man's life absent any trial)
Gay marriage is protected by the 14th Amendment and no longer a states' rights issue
Vets with PTSD are prohibited persons (so are SS recipients who can't manage their financial affairs)
Here's a new one: ITAR applies to domestic gun sales/gunsmiths
Etc, etc, etc (I'm sure you guys can think of more extra-legal change)


What possible penalty would there be to postponing the elections? The Supreme Court is split kicking any ties back Obama appointed Fed district judges.

What happens if a large percentage of the folks reject that and the subsequent election results? Are the risks of this equal/less than the consequences of losing the White House?

Great-Kazoo
09-14-2016, 15:03
What possible penalty would there be to postponing the elections?

https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M8b4ba1a63643a94876efb82e6ecf9eaeo0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=356&h=183

newracer
09-14-2016, 15:04
All of those examples are interpretations of a law or situation and nowhere close to the same as not holding an election. There is no process established which would allow them to not hold an election. If by some way they did I bet many would start voting from the roof tops.

newracer
09-14-2016, 15:06
http://i690.photobucket.com/albums/vv265/THEPATRIOT-X/pmag-cover-off.gif

BushMasterBoy
09-14-2016, 15:10
*It ain't pneumonia

I just hope this isn't one of those custom engineered biological weapons I have posted about recently. They get a sample of your DNA and then build a microbial organism specifically tailored to you. I'm not a biologist, so I am just repeating what I read. If she went to the ER they would have probably run some lab tests. Instead she goes to her daughters apartment. A medical professional I know, said the shaking of the head before collapsing is indicative of a neurological problem. So much for Obamacare!

Gman
09-14-2016, 15:19
A medical professional I know, said the shaking of the head before collapsing is indicative of a neurological problem. So much for Obamacare!
The analysis I saw on TV by a Dr. said that her gait as she was trying to walk was also indicative of a neurological issue, not "pneumonia".

Skip
09-14-2016, 15:23
https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M8b4ba1a63643a94876efb82e6ecf9eaeo0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=356&h=183

I hope those are limited to 15 rounds!

Like I asked (rhetorically): Is the consequences of delaying/manipulating the election less/more than losing the White House?

If I put myself in the shoes of a Lib, that's a hard question to answer right now.



I just hope this isn't one of those custom engineered biological weapons I have posted about recently. They get a sample of your DNA and then build a microbial organism specifically tailored to you. I'm not a biologist, so I am just repeating what I read. If she went to the ER they would have probably run some lab tests. Instead she goes to her daughters apartment. A medical professional I know, said the shaking of the head before collapsing is indicative of a neurological problem. So much for Obamacare!


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3789021/Hillary-Clinton-HATES-President-Obama-defeating-2008-election-according-leaked-emails-refers-man.html


In another March 2015 email exchange between the two the men talk about Clinton's health, with Leeds stating that Rhode Island Senator Sheldon Whitehouse informed him that 'she could barely climb the podium steps' when the two gave a speech at the same event a few months prior.

Whatever it is, it's been obvious for a very long time and they know an ER trip ain't fixing it.

It's no longer "tin foil" to ask why they insisted on running her knowing this. It's an honest question with potentially frightening answers.

I hate to sound uncaring, but I really don't care what Clinton has. I care about what is going to happen in Nov. The best thing for her is to retire and enjoy whatever time she has left if she wants to play along and "power through" then she gets what she gets.

Which is why the lack of an announcement this week is concerning.

Skip
09-14-2016, 15:25
All of those examples are interpretations of a law or situation and nowhere close to the same as not holding an election. There is no process established which would allow them to not hold an election. If by some way they did I bet many would start voting from the roof tops.

But the result is what matters (winning) and it's the same.

The Constitution really is just a piece of paper absent enforcement/consequences. There are no consequences.

Gman
09-14-2016, 15:31
Update from Clinton's doctor: Democrat is 'fit to serve' (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/update-from-clintons-doctor-democrat-is-fit-to-serve/ar-BBwakaW?li=BBnb7Kz)


The letter released Wednesday by the campaign stated that Clinton underwent a chest scan that revealed she had "mild, non-contagious bacterial pneumonia," according to Clinton's physician, Dr. Lisa Bardack, chair of internal medicine at CareMount Medical in Mount Kisco, New York. She was treated with a 10-day course of Levaquin, an antibiotic used to treat infections.

Bardack said Clinton is up to date on all vaccines, including two given to help prevent pneumonia — Prevnar and Pneumovax. The letter did not state when she received those vaccines.

"She is recovering well with antibiotics and rest," wrote Bardack, who also authored a letter about Clinton's health released in July 2015. "She continues to remain healthy and fit to serve as President of the United States."

Clinton, 68, has blood pressure of 100 over 70. Her total cholesterol was 189; her LDL or "bad" cholesterol was 103, and her HDL or "good" cholesterol was 56 — all within healthy levels and not signaling the need for any medications. She has also had a normal mammogram and breast ultrasound, according to the letter.

She takes thyroid and allergy medicines and the blood thinner Coumadin, prescribed as a preventative after she suffered a blood clot resulting from a 2012 concussion.

The blood clot, which was in a vein in the space between the brain and the skull behind the right ear, led Clinton to spend a few days in New York-Presbyterian Hospital and take a month-long absence from the State Department for treatment.
I don't believe that this is everything. They're still hiding something.

exxonv
09-14-2016, 16:04
All interesting stuff - I keep asking myself if I can remember any election year being this strange - I can't.. But then if you'd have told me that in 2016 weed was legal, more than 15-round mags were illegal, and Sig had made a striker fired pistol (that I really like), I'd tell you that you were nuts... LOL...

roberth
09-14-2016, 16:31
An election cannot be postponed.

Since when.

The current administration will do whatever it pleases, so will an HRC administration.

exxonv
09-14-2016, 16:50
BTW, when Andrea "I love Hillary and the left" Mitchell is getting fed up...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dq5UdDSA7Q

theGinsue
09-14-2016, 22:43
An election cannot be postponed.


All of those examples are interpretations of a law or situation and nowhere close to the same as not holding an election. There is no process established which would allow them to not hold an election. If by some way they did I bet many would start voting from the roof tops.

The President has the authority to declare a national emergency and postpone the elections. Of course, this would have significant consequences and fallout, but it CAN be done. I've actually considered this as a possibility to keep BO in office longer since the last election.

newracer
09-14-2016, 23:35
No he doesn't. It would take an act of congress.

Unless there was some reason to declare marshal law over the entire US.

Skip
09-15-2016, 11:53
No he doesn't. It would take an act of congress.

Unless there was some reason to declare marshal law over the entire US.

However they get there doesn't matter, only the consequences.

And what are those consequences again?

The only people who want Trump to be president are a slim majority/minority* of voters (where that line is we won't know). The world (sans Russia) hates Trump. Half this country hates Trump to include nearly all of the political class, most Congress-critters and appointed judges, and almost all mega-corps (globalism is good for business).

They have motive, means, and opportunity to disrupt this election.

I sincerely hope I am wrong and they do not. But I can't think of any other reason to run Clinton knowing all the flaws making her unelectable other than having an "out" that can be exercised with one phone call to either DoJ or the media. And I can't think of any other reason why the Dems only put up one serious challenger (Sanders) knowing all this in advance depriving their party (and America) of the ability to chose an electable candidate. O'Malley could have been that guy, for example.



* Including those us who look at Trump like a mixed bag but a much preferable option than anything the Dems can/will produce.

Rumline
09-15-2016, 13:46
And I can't think of any other reason why the Dems only put up one serious challenger (Sanders) knowing all this in advance depriving their party (and America) of the ability to chose an electable candidate.
It was Clinton's turn this year, and there was no way the Clintons were going to let the Dem Establishment weasel out of it. Putting up Bernie kept the kiddies tuned in.

Aloha_Shooter
09-15-2016, 14:17
It was Clinton's turn this year, and there was no way the Clintons were going to let the Dem Establishment weasel out of it. Putting up Bernie kept the kiddies tuned in.

Again, it's not so much a matter of Clinton's turn as it is they NEED to control the Oval Office to avoid investigation and inevitable prosecution for their various misdeeds (not the least of which is tax fraud) by a clean DOJ and FBI.

Rumline
09-15-2016, 17:17
It's possible that you have the cause and effect mixed up: Hillary made it this far because the powers-that-be have her under their thumb, precisely because of what you mentioned. All of those scandals would have faded into the background were Hillary not a presidential candidate.

Great-Kazoo
09-15-2016, 17:30
It's possible that you have the cause and effect mixed up: Hillary made it this far because the puppet masters have her under their thumb, precisely because of what you mentioned. All of those scandals would have faded into the background were Hillary not a presidential candidate.

Aloha_Shooter
09-15-2016, 18:33
It's possible that you have the cause and effect mixed up: Hillary made it this far because the powers-that-be have her under their thumb, precisely because of what you mentioned. All of those scandals would have faded into the background were Hillary not a presidential candidate.
I'm afraid you're the one who has cause and effect mixed up. The scandals would have faded because the Clintons and their friends have done a remarkable job controlling the media since about 1991. After Bill won, they arranged to take over the bureaucracy and power inside the Democratic Party to solidify their stranglehold on power (no one does background investigations and dirty politcal tricks like the Clintons which is one reason I never believed in the birther nonsense -- if there had been any truth to it, Hillary would have dug it up and used it in 2008). She's a corrupt incompetent conniving beeyatch as an administrator but she's a dangerous corrupt conniving backstabbing beeyatch as a political manipulator (still incompetent as a campaigner but she makes up for that incompetence with corrupt practices).

They would have had her elected in 2008 if not for Obama's fantasy story and telegenic presence upsetting her apple cart. As I have said a few times, the Clintons are desperate to win this election because the power of electoral office is the only way they can avoid impartial investigation and prosecution. It was the reason they engineered a retreat to New York and stealing away Daniel Patrick Moynihan's seat in the Senate. If you watched what was going on in 2008, you can see Obama didn't really want her as SecState but worked a deal where they could continue to hold onto political power to get their cooperation (and that of those they controlled in the rest of the Democratic Party).

Bailey Guns
09-15-2016, 19:58
It's possible that you have the cause and effect mixed up: Hillary made it this far because the powers-that-be have her under their thumb, precisely because of what you mentioned. All of those scandals would have faded into the background were Hillary not a presidential candidate.

I think you need a history lesson. In the democratic party, the Clintons ARE the powers that be. They've been getting away with murder (figuratively...and maybe literally) since long before any of the current big-whigs in the party came along.

Rumline
09-15-2016, 21:20
I think you need a history lesson. In the democratic party, the Clintons ARE the powers that be. They've been getting away with murder (figuratively...and maybe literally) since long before any of the current big-whigs in the party came along.
Hmmm...for allegedly being the string-pullers of the Democrat party, they sure are impotent if they couldn't keep the super delegates in line 8 years ago.

I'll give you that they are influential as power brokers, but they are not the ones financing the Democrat machine and thus are not the ones setting policy and strategy within the party.
Edit: I really don't know about that last part. I'm just going off of the "golden rule"...he who has the gold makes the rules.

Rumline
09-15-2016, 21:39
the Clintons are desperate to win this election because the power of electoral office is the only way they can avoid impartial investigation and prosecution.
I wish I shared your faith in the criminal justice system. When was the last time a senator (let alone immediate family of a former president) went to prison? The only one I could find was Harrison Williams in 1982, and apparently he was the only one in 80 years prior, although it's not clear if they meant the only sitting senator in 80 years.

Squeeze
09-15-2016, 21:44
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i445/TangoDownPro/Hillary%20Benghazi_zpsdgujetmr.jpg (http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/TangoDownPro/media/Hillary%20Benghazi_zpsdgujetmr.jpg.html)

Great-Kazoo
09-15-2016, 23:14
http://i1094.photobucket.com/albums/i445/TangoDownPro/Hillary%20Benghazi_zpsdgujetmr.jpg (http://s1094.photobucket.com/user/TangoDownPro/media/Hillary%20Benghazi_zpsdgujetmr.jpg.html)


I hear it's being called LUNGHAZI

Great-Kazoo
09-15-2016, 23:16
I wish I shared your faith in the criminal justice system. When was the last time a senator (let alone immediate family of a former president) went to prison? The only one I could find was Harrison Williams in 1982, and apparently he was the only one in 80 years prior, although it's not clear if they meant the only sitting senator in 80 years.


Not a senator, however Dan Rostenkowski did time, Jackson Jr, Blagovich, PA State SJ is heading to the greybar hotel. There's a few legislators who did time.

Rumline
09-15-2016, 23:28
Yeah a bunch of Representatives have gone to jail, but it can be argued that they are relatively small fry. My point was that I doubt Hillary or Bill have anything to be worried about, no matter who wins this year or in 4 years. I would love to be wrong about this but I'm too cynical to expect anything else.

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Skip
09-16-2016, 09:17
Post on Drudge this morning...

Which Democrat Should Replace Hillary?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/which_democrat_should_replace_hillary


The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 48% of Likely Democratic Voters believe Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, Clinton’s primary rival, should be their party’s nominee if health issues forced her out of the race. Twenty-two percent (22%) say Vice President Joe Biden should be the nominee, while only 14% opt for Virginia Senator Tim Kaine, the current Democratic vice presidential candidate. Nine percent (9%) of Democrats think it should be someone else.

Something to think about. They didn't pull Clinton this week (and they should have*) which means she is "all in."

One reason they can't pull her is the above. The folks are with Bernie. The elites won't have him. Kaine is the appointed back-up man but can't get the votes. Pulling Clinton (now or later) means provoking this Dem Civil War that goes all the way through November. The circular firing squad in a general is a guaranteed loss.

Their best shot is keeping Clinton in and hoping she turns the polls around. I don't think she can. She's low/no energy with big negatives (lying/trustworthiness). She'd be in defense mode up until Nov as it is. Wikileaks isn't doing her any favors nor is Congress. Trump's negatives are turning around. His only landmine appears to be the tax returns he won't release and I don't think there's anything there or Obama's IRS would have leaked them already.

So if you're wearing tin foil then you have to wonder what else Dems can do to create a win in Nov. They can't pull her and they can't really promote her.


* Any moral/decent people would have pulled her. It's the best thing for her and the country. But it means giving up the White House.

Skip
09-16-2016, 09:23
Yeah a bunch of Representatives have gone to jail, but it can be argued that they are relatively small fry. My point was that I doubt Hillary or Bill have anything to be worried about, no matter who wins this year or in 4 years. I would love to be wrong about this but I'm too cynical to expect anything else.

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The Clintons are an institution and there are plenty of people in their camp, and associated, that have much to fear. A lot of the protections afforded to the Clintons over the years is based on media/Dems in Washington willing/able to carry their water. That may not be the case now.

Look at the IT workers taking the Fifth. Those are just IT guys who could easily claim ignorance and they're too scared to tell the truth. One didn't even show up!

Hillary would likely die before going to trial. Bill is too old and would probably get a pass. Chelsea is a conspirator (email alias) and directly involved in the Clinton Foundation's "cash for favors/info/access" scheme. In a just world, she would be prosecuted. Her hedge fund failure husband has no other way to maintain their lifestyle. And they have a lifestyle they'll kill for. Which means keeping the Clinton "institution" alive.

Exploring everything would be very damaging to the foreign and corporate interests who bought power/info. If people knew the truth, this is the kind of thing that would trigger widespread reform in DC. The elites would be locked out from all these back channels.