View Full Version : Another Danged Mall Shooting - Burlington, WA
theGinsue
09-23-2016, 21:45
Local Fox News just stated that the AP says there's just been another mall shooting; this one in WA state.
Almost no details provided other than 4 dead and criminal suspect still on the loose.
Will update as more is known. Be safe our there.
ETA: Cascade Mall in Burlington, WA about 65 miles north of Seattle. Hispanic gunman on the loose, unknown if more than 1 shooter. Walked into Macy's store and shot 4 people dead. Unknown if there are any injuries.
www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/24/at-least-4-killed-in-shooting-at-washington-mall-suspect-still-at-large.html
Zundfolge
09-23-2016, 21:53
Says on most of the news site that 4 are dead and shooter has fled the scene ... that tells me that this wasn't a "nutter with a gun" or Jihadi but I bet we're going to find out that the dead are the shooter's ex-girlfriend, her new boyfriend and two fellow gang members or something like that.
theGinsue
09-23-2016, 21:57
What I hate most about these events is, first and foremost, the loss of life. But, I hate how these nuts give the Anti-2A crowd more fodder and turns more folks against firearms.
Yeah, just saw that pop up. Wonder which one it will be for the media to pounce on, ghost guns, "assault" rifles or the "clips too big for common people". Though I'm sure Hillary or Obama will be grandstanding on their yet to be dug graves tomorrow morning to make more calls for laws that wouldn't have prevented it from happening.
DenverGP
09-23-2016, 22:33
Saw at least one report that the shooter walked into the store and someone observed the gun in his waistband... so not likely to be a scary assault weapon.
DenverGP
09-23-2016, 22:54
found this pic posted to a thread on reddit, can't confirm authenticity. Not handgun, but doesn't look like scary black rifle:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtFzr84VYAEhEmp.jpg
MSNBC is reporting a Hispanic male with a HUNTING rifle. Well, this one may not line up with the leftist narrative.
Great-Kazoo
09-24-2016, 07:54
MSNBC is reporting a Hispanic male with a HUNTING rifle. Well, this one may not line up with the leftist narrative.
Not yet. Once HRC finishes her apology tour in Charleston. She'll focus on this
3beansalad
09-24-2016, 07:55
Evil strikes our country again. I'm sure we'll learn the facts in time. For now, I pray for comfort for the families for the dead
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If it was a hunting rifle or a 10/22 it will just play right into their hands anyway. It will be used as an example how all guns including hunting rifles are the devils tools and should be banned just like evil black guns. Only black powder muskets will be allowed for awhile.
Bailey Guns
09-24-2016, 08:38
MSNBC is reporting a WHITE Hispanic male with a HUNTING SNIPER rifle.
FIFMSNBC
Evil strikes our country again. I'm sure we'll learn the facts in time. For now, I pray for comfort for the families for the dead
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Well said.
According to the MSM, there are now 5 fatalities.
This is just another reminder that there is evil in our world.
Bailey Guns
09-24-2016, 10:35
As if we aren't reminded often enough these days. Hillary's face is all over TV.
If it was a hunting rifle or a 10/22 it will just play right into their hands anyway. It will be used as an example how all guns including hunting rifles are the devils tools and should be banned just like evil black guns. Only black powder muskets will be allowed for awhile.
Fudds don't get it but you are right.
There's another narrative as well though. The monster had enough time/opportunity to murder five people with a .22LR. LE couldn't stop him. And he even got away.
We need to ban ASSAULT RIFLES because they are mass-murdering-weapons-of-war. But with enough time/opportunity a .22LR rifle can do the same. A knife could do the same. A car could do worse.
found this pic posted to a thread on reddit, can't confirm authenticity. Not handgun, but doesn't look like scary black rifle:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CtFzr84VYAEhEmp.jpg
If you look closely at it you can see the clear mag sticking out the bottom. I would be pretty sure it is a 10/22 with a 25 round mag.
BushMasterBoy
09-24-2016, 12:48
Any POSITIVE ID on the weapon-caliber? I mean any statement from LE?
BushMasterBoy
09-24-2016, 16:55
Lone wolf Islamic terrorist is probably right...after reading all the postings on the investigating officers twitter.
More like lone Pole-Cat. It does appear to be a Ruger 10/22, wonder if it was the takedown version? That could explain how he walked in "without a weapon" and then minutes later has one in hand, that or he or an accomplice placed it in advance. I hope he eats a .223 round to the gut and bleeds out slowly.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
It's not like the weapon appears out of nowhere. He comes into the mall without it and leaves. Then returns with the rifle at Macy's to commit his crimes and leaves again.
Gunman captured. We should know more soon.
theGinsue
09-24-2016, 20:58
Almost wish he'd saved taxpayers the cost of the trial and incarceratin by off'ing himself.
BushMasterBoy
09-24-2016, 21:21
Or just make him a eunuch.
Or just make him a eunuch.
Doesn't go far enough.
His last name is Turkish.
Just saying.
Calculated
09-24-2016, 22:10
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theGinsue
09-24-2016, 22:19
Local media identified the suspect as Arcan Cetin, 20, a native of Turkey who went to high school in Oak Harbor ...
A motive for the shooting was not immediately clear, but the FBI said terrorism was not suspected.
When I saw the surveillance picture in this thread of the suspect I knew right away he was middle eastern and not hispanic.
I love how the FBI always immediately says terrorism was not suspected when the suspects are middle eastern, and likely muslim.
BushMasterBoy
09-24-2016, 22:33
Doesn't go far enough.
Well I was just thinking of where to start. Then let him watch what a hungry pot belly pig pig would do!
Another multiple shooting in a free kill zone - Cascade Mall didn't allow CCW.
kidicarus13
09-25-2016, 02:45
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160925/6d9e70c0965d752fc2d92c6933ec643f.jpg
I'll just leave this here.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/09/update-cascade-mall-shooter-captured-suspect-turkish-muslim-arcan-cetin/
When I saw the surveillance picture in this thread of the suspect I knew right away he was middle eastern and not hispanic.
I love how the FBI always immediately says terrorism was not suspected when the suspects are middle eastern, and likely muslim.
Yup, all part of the lies and misinformation fed to the public. Stupid people still think the government/media have their best interests in mind.
3beansalad
09-25-2016, 07:36
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Bailey Guns
09-25-2016, 07:56
A WHITE HISPANIC Turkish Muslim...
A WHITE HISPANIC Turkish Muslim...
I bet that would fill a lot of the little boxes on a 4473.
clodhopper
09-25-2016, 08:13
Clearly we need increased background checks to prevent this from happening again.
Clearly we need increased background checks to prevent this from happening again.
I thought we had to ban guns.
It's the only way to be safe in a society full of people who want to murder us, right?
Documents: Mall shooting suspect confesses to slayings (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/documents-mall-shooting-suspect-confesses-to-slayings/ar-BBwDpFJ?li=BBnb7Kz)
In the assault case, Cetin was told by a judge last December that he was not to possess a gun, the newspaper reported.
Well, that certainly worked well.
Documents: Mall shooting suspect confesses to slayings (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/documents-mall-shooting-suspect-confesses-to-slayings/ar-BBwDpFJ?li=BBnb7Kz)
Well, that certainly worked well.[/FONT][/COLOR]
Do we know if the weapon was acquired after WA's BGC law?
Documents: Mall shooting suspect confesses to slayings (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/documents-mall-shooting-suspect-confesses-to-slayings/ar-BBwDpFJ?li=BBnb7Kz)
Well, that certainly worked well.[/FONT][/COLOR]
Just like a restraining order..
Do we know if the weapon was acquired after WA's BGC law?
It appears that the rifle and ammo belonged to the shooters father and was taken without his knowledge.
If there was only a law making it illegal to kill another person, this wouldn't have happened.
[Sarcasm2]
Rucker61
09-26-2016, 17:06
It appears that the rifle and ammo belonged to the shooters father and was taken without his knowledge.
A Ruger 10/22 with a 25 round magazine. No idea how many shots he fired.
It appears that the rifle and ammo belonged to the shooters father and was taken without his knowledge.
So the BGC law worked then?
/sarc
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