The Ass Clown Circus is about to begin! (Debate)

[GilpinGuy]

Get your popcorn and enjoy the show.

[hurley842002]

Someone do a play by play, I'm not in a position to watch it lol.

[GilpinGuy]

Well, no coughing fits or seizures yet.

[Grant H.]

Holy crap...

I'm already so annoyed...

It's fun that hitlery is blaming 2008 on the 1%, not banks and lenders... What a clown.

[KS63]

Donald needs to be specific about his plans. He's starting to ramble.

[Rooskibar03]

First question "there is a clear record of job growth". Guess as long as you count part time work at McDonald then you're right.

[KS63]

Or government jobs....

[TEAMRICO]

She is well scripted and Donald is going on the attack.
She is sticking to her script.

[KS63]

My wife turned the tv off. Can't say I blame her. At least my Hillary for Prison sign is still in my front yard....so far

[GilpinGuy]

Yeah, Donald is becoming unglued and Killary is loving it.

[Rooskibar03]

Every time Trump says "believe me" take a drink.

[GilpinGuy]

Oh! Zinger about releasing tax returns vs. releasing 30,000 emails. Hahahaha!

[Madeinhb]

Oh! Zinger about releasing tax returns vs. releasing 30,000 emails. Hahahaha!

And how she admit she did it.

[Gman]

Hey let's get the middle class a cheaper education so they can live in their parent's basements with degrees.

[GilpinGuy]

Wow. 45 minutes battling over taxes, trade, and Donalds biz. Half the debate time.

[GilpinGuy]

Here we go: "gun epidemic".

[Great-Kazoo]

She is well scripted and Donald is going on the attack.
She is sticking to her script.

Just like she did with the FBI.

[Grant H.]

Oh good...

Gun safety, not gun control...

Accusations of blatant racism...

Freaking liberals...

[Madeinhb]

And gun sales will now skyrocket

[buffalobo]

Larry, Curly and Moe would be proud of this production.



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[GilpinGuy]

Larry, Curly and Moe would be proud of this production.



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Haha +1

[Madeinhb]

Does Hillary forget she was one of the first birthers?

[waffles]

This is brutal. Trump is doing awful, and fuck anyone who wants to deny rights to those without due process.

And the other option is Hillary Clinton. Christ

[J]

Can't believe an R nominee is endorsing privious and future expansion on stop and frisk.

Bye bye 4th. You were a good 10% of the bill of rights while it lasted.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I tried to listen twice, just can't stand to hear that woman lie. She does it so naturally, I don't think she even has to think about it. If her life depended on saying the sky was blue on a bright sunny day, she'd say it was pink.

[KS63]

She's still standing? Shit...

[TEAMRICO]

She is a well rehearsed robot and is coming as fake as all hell. I like Trumps passion as opposed to her false personality. That blank look on her face!

[motoboy]

[pileoshit][dig][facepalm][fail][offtopic][Eek3]


Gawd..............what a train wreck.

[sroz]

Trump cannot stay focused and on topic. It's difficult to follow his train of thought. She is there for the taking and he just can't seem to get it done. Btw, he has been sniffling from the very start. He is the one sounding like he is ill.

[TEAMRICO]

Lester Holt is getting stepped on like a rug.

[waxthis]

Every time Trump says "believe me" take a drink.

I'm way beyond shit faced...

[sroz]

She is looking very smug just watching him flounder. Of course I thought he had lost other debates and was wrong.

[GilpinGuy]

Another useless waste of 90+ minutes of my life. My fault for choosing to watch.

I would have probably learned something by watching Duck Dynasty reruns instead.

[KS63]

I would like to thank those who sacrificed their time to watch and report the Debate. I'm a quitter and I'm proud....

[Grant H.]

I quit.

Invoice paperwork became FAR more interesting than the debate.

[hollohas]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a more biased debate...including the last election with Candy what's her face.

Asked Trump about his comments on women, his alleged war flip flops, his birther positions, etc, etc, etc.

Anyone see even one question (from Holt) asking Clinton about one of her flip flops, her emails, her bad judgement, her birther position, her foundation, the people killed under her watch? Even one? Just one?

Wow. Ugly.

[hollohas]

PS, what do you suppose Clinton has under her Chairman Mao coat?

Gun? Hahahaha...no.

Receiver? Rx injector?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160927/8bdc56363e461ae91445beae6b3cbbc7.jpg

[GilpinGuy]

There was talk about earbuds before the debate. Would't doubt it. I mean lying repeatedly is her job. Hard to keep all those lies in order.

[sroz]

I'm not sure I've ever seen a more biased debate...including the last election with Candy what's her face.

Asked Trump about his comments on women, his alleged war flip flops, his birther positions, etc, etc, etc.

Anyone see even one question (from Holt) asking Clinton about one of her flip flops, her emails, her bad judgement, her birther position, her foundation, the people killed under her watch? Even one? Just one?

Wow. Ugly.

Agree 100%

[Bailey Guns]

Yep...predictable, the leftist journalist "moderator" was the real ass-clown of this debate. It's almost as if Trump had to debate both of them.

[jason303]

The transmitter for the mic she wore. Why did they need both a podium mic and a lapel mic?
Well the good news is Trump can get better for the next debate but Hillary will be using the same play book.



PS, what do you suppose Clinton has under her Chairman Mao coat?

Gun? Hahahaha...no.

Receiver? Rx injector?

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160927/8bdc56363e461ae91445beae6b3cbbc7.jpg

[BushMasterBoy]

All I can think about is Bill Clinton, Waco and the OKC bombing. All those dead children from both events. I will vote for Trump. Hillary will bring the same trouble as her husband did.

[TEAMRICO]

It is like you can see the wire run up her back!

[jhood001]

Can't believe an R nominee is endorsing privious and future expansion on stop and frisk.

Bye bye 4th. You were a good 10% of the bill of rights while it lasted.

This blew me away as well.

I can see it as a political tactic aimed squarely at some of his more fearful base, but he already has those people. I think endorsing it did him more harm than good.

[buffalobo]

Lester Holt is getting stepped on like a rug.


Yep...predictable, the leftist journalist "moderator" was the real ass-clown of this debate. It's almost as if Trump had to debate both of them.
The third stooge is always the one to get walked on. I liked how they both slapped him around.

The wife let me off the hook after 45 mins. Sucked that 30 mins were during supper.

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[GilpinGuy]

The third stooge is always the one to get walked on. I liked how they both slapped him around.

The wife let me off the hook after 45 mins. Sucked that 30 mins were during supper.

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Your time was better spent with your wife.

[buffalobo]

Your time was better spent with your wife.
She was watching debate and ranting her dislike of Hillary, I didn't want to. I had to look at Hillary while I ate.

I watched my supper closely tonite. Then put up trim around the attic access hole.

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[brutal]

I waited until after the debate to go out in the garage and sort nuts.

I had several trigger events that left me wanting for a safe space.

Gun safety
Free college
Tax the rich
No Fly list (4th Amendment)

You get the picture.

I should have played with my nuts first, instead of wasting time watching that shit show.

[Graves]

Grab your paddles, gents.

[Madeinhb]

I waited until after the debate to go out in the garage and sort nuts.

I had several trigger events that left me wanting for a safe space.

Gun safety
Free college
Tax the rich
No Fly list (4th Amendment)

You get the picture.

I should have played with my nuts first, instead of wasting time watching that shit show.

I hated how she said free College but those of with loans already would get cheaper rates to make paying more economical.

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

Her teeth look as rotten as her soul.

[Gman]

I hated how she said free College but those of with loans already would get cheaper rates to make paying more economical.
...and the economy needs to grow to create jobs for those graduates to find jobs. The unemployment rate is a sham and the number of people participating in the work force is deplorable.

Clinton has a record in government...a record of failure. Trump has a record in the business environment. These are not the same thing. Government creates the hoops that businesses have to jump through to make money and create opportunities for employment.

Trump had his hands full with Holt and HRC playing on the same team.

[Jamnanc]

The fact that he never actually answered a question and just tried to attack the devil was what lost it for him. He had an opportunity with the cyber security question, could have said he'd build a team of the best and brightest, admitted he wasn't an expert, and mentioned that Hilary's history on email security is horrible. Instead he looked like an angry retarded child.

Hopefully he he will watch a ton of video and get good coaching prior to the next one.

[Martinjmpr]

We watched Longmire instead. I think it was the right call. [pileoshit]

[Skip]

I didn't watch much of it either but after reviewing the clips/sound bytes this morning it would appear Clinton has doubled-down on the typical Lib agenda which is good for Trump. I don't understand how gun safety came into it (polling says this is very low priority). The economy is and has been #1 and the government isn't creating jobs. Hopefully folks think this through and put in the perspective of the Obama years ($10T spent on a jobless recovery).

Trump has clearly changed and I wonder if more of his "prep" involved trying to be a decent guy rather than attack on the issues. He's not fighting our votes anymore, he's fighting for swings/moderates in key states. He needs to appear reasonable and presidential and I think that might matter more than winning on some of these issues.

[HoneyBadger]

What a circus... [Pop]

[BushMasterBoy]

I like the way he appears on this video. The debate appearance is more important than its substance. As I have said before CIA & NSA have great influence in a general election, regardless of claims of being apolitical.

https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/hillary-hires-psychologists-to-undermine-trump-just-as-cia-does-in-assessing-egos-of-foreign-adversaries_09262016



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FeT6uOpKAQ

[68Charger]

Didn't watch it, saw the "highlights"... seems to me that those that were for/against Trump will keep that position, those that were for/against Klinton will stay that course... and those that were for neither were not convinced either... so it was just a waste of time.

[hurley842002]

Didn't watch it, saw the "highlights"... seems to me that those that were for/against Trump will keep that position, those that were for/against Klinton will stay that course... and those that were for neither were not convinced either... so it was just a waste of time.

I think you are on to something, and I'll go one step further and say, those who were for neither, are staying home, or voting Gary Johnson (at least that's what I gather talking to those folks).

[davsel]

Ann Bardhardt's excellent take on it:

My Favorite Part of the “Debate” Was When Hillary Starting Chewing on the Turnbuckle (http://www.barnhardt.biz/2016/09/27/my-favorite-part-of-the-debate-was-when-hillary-starting-chewing-on-the-turnbuckle/)



Presidential Debate 2016


Starring:

George “The Animal” Steele as Hillary Rodham Clinton

Captain Lou Albano as Huma Abedin, Hillary’s Manager

Randy “Macho Man” Savage as Donald J. Trump

Miss Elizabeth as Melania Trump

My favorite part was at 4:23 when Hillary started chewing on the turnbuckle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jlyn2Iw7DJ8


“It’s real right? It’s totally real. They aren’t faking that. It’s totally real. You can’t fake that….”


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[Justin]

Hillary talks a good policy game, but the reality of her actions never seem to match.

Trump rambled at a few points, and, as far as I'm concerned, the entire discussion about Chicago was a wasted opportunity.

He could have hammered her on the fact that Chicago has record numbers of shootings in spite of the strictest gun control in the country.

Instead, he opted to double down on stop and frisk and no fly, no buy.

What a complete travesty.

[brutal]

I hated how she said free College but those of with loans already would get cheaper rates to make paying more economical.

According to fact checks, she is only pushing for free in-state public college tuition. Unfortunately, all anyone hears is FREE SHIT.

Of course, schools will take advantage of this to again raise tuition fees that you and I will get to pay.

We're paying off (private) student loans for two. Don't have to tell me how burdensome that is, but the decision was made, and payment is due along with the responsibility.

I guess I will get to pay for more than two.

[Rumline]

Instead, he opted to double down on stop and frisk and no fly, no buy.

What a complete travesty.
Both of those are awful but I couldn't believe the latter. Did Hillary say anything to piss off her base? I can see Donald's poll numbers slip 3-5 points after last night's performance.

[Justin]

Both of those are awful but I couldn't believe the latter. Did Hillary say anything to piss off her base? I can see Donald's poll numbers slip 3-5 points after last night's performance.
I don't think his numbers will slip that much. Ultimately most people don't understand why those policies are terrible either because they are uneducated or they simply don't care.

The biggest possible mistake you can make is to think that this election season (or any other, for that matter) hinges on matters of policy or constitutionality.

It doesn't. It hinges on charisma and persuasion.

Frankly, if Trump gets a bump in the numbers, I won't be surprised.

[Jeffrey Lebowski]

It doesn't. It hinges on charisma and persuasion.

I think it hinges on how many votes the dems can squeeze out of the cemetery.

[Justin]

I think it hinges on how many votes the dems can squeeze out of the cemetery.
One of the more brilliant things Trump has done has been making election fraud something of a political issue.

The fallout from that gambit, especially if he loses, will be interesting to watch.

[Skip]

According to fact checks, she is only pushing for free in-state public college tuition. Unfortunately, all anyone hears is FREE SHIT.

Of course, schools will take advantage of this to again raise tuition fees that you and I will get to pay.

We're paying off (private) student loans for two. Don't have to tell me how burdensome that is, but the decision was made, and payment is due along with the responsibility.

I guess I will get to pay for more than two.

Are people going to fall for that? Post ACA?

I think the lies were easier before the country had such a great (and quick) example of why it doesn't work. I get the allure of FREE SHIT but I think the population is wising up.

Look at the polling on state issue 69 for example.

[Ronin13]

...and the economy needs to grow to create jobs for those graduates to find jobs. The unemployment rate is a sham and the number of people participating in the work force is deplorable.

Clinton has a record in government...a record of failure. Trump has a record in the business environment. These are not the same thing. Government creates the hoops that businesses have to jump through to make money and create opportunities for employment.

Trump had his hands full with Holt and HRC playing on the same team.
I agree 100%. Trump is a businessman, who surrounds himself with other savvy business people (like accountants and attorneys) that can aid him in being successful and work the system. He doesn't pay income tax? Neither would you if you found a legal way around it. He games the system and does so legally, can't really fault him for that. He intends to reduce regulation, cut taxes for the job creators, and help to improve the economic feasibility of America. For this he has my support. On other issues, he is a bit off base and I hope he listens to those in the know, such as law and order, national defense, and some of his non-economic related domestic policy. I also like the fact that he's fostering a positive relationship with Netanyahu.

The whole debate was an uphill battle for him from the start- Holt was clearly on Hillary's team, asked him the tougher questions (like the birther BS), and fact-checked (falsely) a few of Trump's answers, yet asked Hillary the easy questions, didn't fact-check her at all, and went very soft on the controversy that's plagued her campaign. Let's face it though, Trump got challenged, and overall failed. He proved his lack of preparation, and that turned into his downfall... on top of his moments of incessant babbling.

I think it hinges on how many votes the dems can squeeze out of the cemetery.
THIS!

[Rumline]

The biggest possible mistake you can make is to think that this election season (or any other, for that matter) hinges on matters of policy or constitutionality.

It doesn't. It hinges on charisma and persuasion.
Maybe indirectly, but the results of the election hinge on voter turnout. You don't get your base drummed up by caving on issues they find important. Look how well Romney and McCain did by "playing to the middle." I thought what we conservatives wanted was for all these establishment morons to FOAD and give us a real conservative. But look how Trump is falling all over himself to support "centrist" positions: give medicaid to everybody, more handouts via EITC, backdoor gun control, and further erosion of the 4th Amendment. If Trump wins the only reason will be that people voted against Hillary.

To your point about charisma, I agree that's a driving factor for many if not most people. I felt that Hillary had her game on lock. Libtards are arrogant and that is probably one of her strongest, most sincere attributes. I'm sure they thought she looked perfect.


I don't think his numbers will slip that much.
You're probably right on this.

[bryjcom]

Looks like Killary got the questions in advance.. Wonder if this is true although I wouldn't be shocked

http://baltimoregazette.com/clinton-received-debate-questions-week-debate/


Never mind... Looks like the site is one of those bogus story sites.

[hollohas]

Of course she did. The media spent the week prior to the debate setting a narrative that matched the Trump "gotcha" questions from Holt.

Then Hillary responded so quickly that it was obvious her exact responses were rehearsed.

Then the "fact check" websites and media almost immediately posted articles claiming Trump's answers were false.

It all happened so fast and so in sync that there is no way it wasn't all coordinated in advance.

[Kraven251]

Looks like Killary got the questions in advance.. Wonder if this is true although I wouldn't be shocked

http://baltimoregazette.com/clinton-received-debate-questions-week-debate/

Doesn't really matter...Hiliary has been "chosen" and Trump is a buffoon. Neither of them is good for the country, or us. This debate is just a sideshow distraction, but at the end of the day either one of them win we are fucked.

Trump mentioned something about "good business" last night. You know what is good business, losing the election and getting a bunch of government contracts.

[bryjcom]

Looking like that site is bogus....never mind

[milwaukeeshaker]

Add cheater to her liar resume. What a POS


Looks like Killary got the questions in advance.. Wonder if this is true although I wouldn't be shocked

http://baltimoregazette.com/clinton-received-debate-questions-week-debate/

[DavieD55]

Doesn't really matter...Hiliary has been "chosen" and Trump is a buffoon. Neither of them is good for the country, or us. This debate is just a sideshow distraction, but at the end of the day either one of them win we are fucked.

Trump mentioned something about "good business" last night. You know what is good business, losing the election and getting a bunch of government contracts.

That is why it is importatnt to focus on getting good people elected at the local level, people who will stand up to the corrupt thugs of DC. No one is going to be able to fix DC at this point. I hope that Trump gets elected, although he will not be able to fix it all by himself and undue decades worth of deep state corruption and expansions of unconstitutional government in a term or even two. It is a complete corrupt cess pool dominated by a majority of anti American globalist subversives in both political parties, the congress, the courts, and obviously the executive.

[cstone]

Did watching the debate change anyone's mind on who they would vote for in November?

[hollohas]

Did watching the debate change anyone's mind on who they would vote for in November?
Not technically. But I'm more motivated to support Trump. Not because he did well (which he didn't) but after witnessing that orchestrated, biased, smug faced BS, I'm even more angry at the "system" than I was previously.

Damn the man, save the Empire.

[davsel]

Did watching the debate change anyone's mind on who they would vote for in November?

Yes. After hearing how Trump said mean things about Rosy, I just can't support him anymore.

Hillary 2016!

[brutal]

Yes. After hearing how Trump said mean things about Rosy, I just can't support him any less.

Hillary for prison 2016!

FIFY

[Bailey Guns]

I can see Donald's poll numbers slip 3-5 points after last night's performance.

Disagree. I'm willing to bet his poll numbers actually go up a point or two. Not necessarily because of anything he said...but because of the way Hillary looked, sounded and acted. She came across as a typical, lying politician. People will remember that.

Also...Romney absolutely trounced Obama in their first debate. Obama did much better later on and we all know how that turned out. So just because Trump didn't knock it outta the park last night doesn't mean much at this point, in my opinion.

[BushMasterBoy]

You wanna win? Just legalize pot. Tax it, quit jailing for it, stop demonizing it. Stop feeding the cartels! There is enough pot voters to win. Just make sure you are the first candidate with a plan.

[KAPA]

Not technically. But I'm more motivated to support Trump. Not because he did well (which he didn't) but after witnessing that orchestrated, biased, smug faced BS, I'm even more angry at the "system" than I was previously.

Damn the man, save the Empire.
That right there is the best summary i have heard. She did it too well and people are tired of the Clinton machine which was on full display last night.

[davsel]

Love this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOitcVu7vT4

[motoboy]

^^^^^
Thanks

Have not watched this guy before, will check out more of his vids.

[Rumline]

Well, one week afterwards and Trump's in a slump. The validity of polls is certainly debatable, and of course nothing matters until Nov 8th, but using the RCP average as a benchmark for the sake of tracking trends, we can see that Clinton has increased her lead by 2 points compared to last week.

http://www.ar-15.co/attachment.php?attachmentid=67412&d=1475614430

[hurley842002]

Speaking of Hillary, just drove through a parking lot where I saw three cars all sporting different out of state license plates, and proudly displaying their Hillary stickers. I'm sticking with my theory of we are so fu&@ed.

[hollohas]

Not the parking lot at my work. Here's what we have parked outside today.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161004/2a9786f54e4661a8720ca6bedcfbb8ed.jpg

PS - The same hacker that hacked the DNC just hacked the clinton foundation and started releasing documents. One documents is a screenshot of the server's file directory...one of the folders is actually titled "pay to play". Wow....

[Dave_L]

Just in case you know any Trump supporters...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/9/30/1576113/-If-You-Tell-Me-You-Are-Supporting-Trump-I-Already-Know-Seven-Things-About-You



1. You want to be ruled, not governed.
2. You have no class.
3. You are definitely not someone to do business with.
4. You are either a racist, or at best, have no problem with racism.
5. You have an issue with women.
6. You aren't really Christian
7. You don’t believe in the Constitution.

[Zundfolge]

Just in case you know any Trump supporters...

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/9/30/1576113/-If-You-Tell-Me-You-Are-Supporting-Trump-I-Already-Know-Seven-Things-About-You

When I read stuff like that I start to feel like the only place we're headed is war. There is no way to peacefully co-exist with people that believe that kind of crap about you. At some point it's going to come down to us or them.

[hollohas]

When I read stuff like that I start to feel like the only place we're headed is war. There is no way to peacefully co-exist with people that believe that kind of crap about you. At some point it's going to come down to us or them.
Exactly. The 1st three piss me off but I can shrug the accusation off no problem.

The last four are fighting words. Especially the last two.

[Dave_L]

Yeah, it is interesting to think about where this is headed. Unfortunately, I think its part of the plan. Poke the bear until the bear says enough and then put the bear down for being dangerous.

[KAPA]

When I read stuff like that I start to feel like the only place we're headed is war. There is no way to peacefully co-exist with people that believe that kind of crap about you. At some point it's going to come down to us or them.

Yes, the divide is happening and will be further defined if Clinton wins. I feel like if Trump wins the people that will get upset are the loud mouths that will never do anything about it. If Hillary wins, it sets up the country to continue down the path where quiet folks will eventually be backed into a corner and within another presidency or two the war will start.

[KAPA]

Yeah, it is interesting to think about where this is headed. Unfortunately, I think its part of the plan. Poke the bear until the bear says enough and then put the bear down for being dangerous.

That is the problem, their chip away plan is their bread and butter and it can be a winner for them. America's only hope is to take action before the invasion of people and ideologies is too much to overcome. I give it 12-16 years of liberal/progressive leadership.

[brutal]

Hence the reason they want to take our guns. They want to win without a single shot fired.

We all know that's not going to happen in our lifetime's. Sadly, maybe our kid's.

[Irving]

What's the outage over that list all about? People say the same type of thing about liberals on here every week.

[Zundfolge]

America's only hope is to take action before the invasion of people and ideologies is too much to overcome.
The thing with armed rebellion is that there are two thresholds one must recognize:

The first threshold is the "if we don't start the rebellion by X date, we'll nave no chance to win" and the second threshold is "Ok, we've been pushed back against the wall to the point we're ready to take the risks of rebellion".

Unfortunately most of the time you cross that first threshold LONG before you hit the second one (in my estimation, any chance at an armed rebellion having any success it really should have happened during the Wilson administration ... maybe during the Hoover administration or the first year or two of FDR).


I give it 12-16 years of liberal/progressive leadership.
You're way more optimistic than I am ... I'm pretty well convinced that the only chance for a temporary reprieve is a Trump victory. Hillary wins and we're done. Even if Trump wins we have our work cut out for us if we want to return America to its Constitutional Republic roots.

But hey, I'm a hard wired pessimist so take that for what its worth.

[KAPA]

You're way more optimistic than I am ... I'm pretty well convinced that the only chance for a temporary reprieve is a Trump victory. Hillary wins and we're done. Even if Trump wins we have our work cut out for us if we want to return America to its Constitutional Republic roots.

But hey, I'm a hard wired pessimist so take that for what its worth.

Don't worry yet, just look at this current election. It is close, I am sure you can agree on that. As long as elections are close and they go back and forth every term or two then it is basically a check and balance. If Hillary wins and gets to appoint more judges at the SCOTUS level and below, install more infringing laws and regulations, then she sets up for yet another liberal president, then you start a quick slide away from both sides getting a voice. More and more will be dependent on the government and then it is too late since those that could fight tyranny are too far and few between.

Right now and for the next president or two, there are far too many freedom loving Americans out there that would be WILLING and ABLE to fight. Give it 20 years and that # will be cut drastically. It really is a shame in some ways. If it were to happen soon, American values and freedom would win easily. Waiting will be another story.

I still have hope that real Americans will come out of the wood work and save this country from going down that path.

[KAPA]

Just watched that debate and holy crap that Kaine guy is an annoying prick! Pence comes across as a level headed guy and very calm so I think he is a good match for Trump. Kaine is the guy that may be a good "debater" in terms of being the annoying asshole that gets attention, but just because you spew crap at a higher rate does not make your side correct.

Imagine if Hillary gets elected... I would think this annoying asshole has pretty good chance of taking the Presidency when Hillary can't hack it after 6 months or so.

[Zundfolge]

Don't worry yet, just look at this current election. It is close, I am sure you can agree on that.
I agree that its close, and that's what worries me. For two reasons. 1) close elections are easier to cheat because you only have to move a couple of percentage points (I believe this is likely what happened in 2012) and 2) if its close it means that very close to half the population are fucking morons. Large percentages of a population being fucking morons is dangerous in a democracy or a republic.

The problem with a Hillary victory is that she'll be able to close the door of democracy behind her. Once she's in the constitution dies the first session of the Supreme Court and its all down hill from there.

I predict if Hillary wins we will never see another non-Democrat elected ever again. We'll become a "single party state" like the USSR.


I still have hope that real Americans will come out of the wood work and save this country from going down that path.
From your lips to God's ear.

[fitz19d]

Re flip flopping parties in presidency balancing things. The reality is most of the R politicians are no friends of ours either and have been fucking over the public just as much. Sad that 3rd party head a chance to make in roads and their guy is a giant retard.

[fitz19d]

Loveland rally if interested.


https://youtu.be/lrwPYqDrKPI

[Ronin13]

What's the outage over that list all about? People say the same type of thing about liberals on here every week.
Except that a lot of what's said along those lines with liberals is fairly true. Matt Walsh says it best "You can't be a Christian and a democrat, you can only be one, because both are incompatible with each other."

I agree that its close, and that's what worries me. For two reasons. 1) close elections are easier to cheat because you only have to move a couple of percentage points (I believe this is likely what happened in 2012) and 2) if its close it means that very close to half the population are fucking morons. Large percentages of a population being fucking morons is dangerous in a democracy or a republic.

The problem with a Hillary victory is that she'll be able to close the door of democracy behind her. Once she's in the constitution dies the first session of the Supreme Court and its all down hill from there.

I predict if Hillary wins we will never see another non-Democrat elected ever again. We'll become a "single party state" like the USSR.
This is a fear I have. Trump surrounds himself with some pretty brilliant individuals (two of his economic advisors are very sharp, one worked with JFK and Reagan, which led to great economic growth), has a very good VP candidate, and I honestly think will take the advice of his experts in his corner well. He may not have the most sound foreign policy when it comes to trade, but he will have more strength in our military, help the economy, and wants the best for America. Hillary just wants her idea of her America, the one with her and her fellow elites at the top, and the rest of us peons at the bottom begging for more and more help from the government. Remember that old line: "A government big enough to give you everything you need is big enough to take everything you have."