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Zundfolge
09-30-2016, 22:06
As of about 6 minutes ago, the US Department of Commerce has released its control over ICANN. The internet is now "in the hands of the world" ... I give it less than 10 days until the United Nations takes control of ICANN and the shutdown of the alternative media will begin then, before our election even.
Kraven251
09-30-2016, 22:15
probably nothing will happen, based on what I have seen out of our own .gov, they were more of a threat to this site than anything else
Great-Kazoo
09-30-2016, 22:31
Doesn't matter. The people who know people, who know people on this site is YUGEEEEE. You can put out the candle, but you can't put out the flame.
jhood001
09-30-2016, 22:50
As of about 6 minutes ago, the US Department of Commerce has released its control over ICANN. The internet is now "in the hands of the world" ... I give it less than 10 days until the United Nations takes control of ICANN and the shutdown of the alternative media will begin then, before our election even.
While I don't agree with the change, I'll bet you $500 that you're wrong. We won't see any permanent shutdowns anytime soon (my bet applies through 2018 if you want to take it).
Of course, if your post carried a certain element of 'tongue in cheek'; I would give it a 2/10 rating.
1/10 because your post was well written.
2/10 because I LOVE tin-foil.
As long as people have internet access, there will be a free exchange of ideas and information. There are ways to get around things being blocked.
Grant H.
09-30-2016, 23:56
As long as people have internet access, there will be a free exchange of ideas and information. There are ways to get around things being blocked.
While this is true, the number of people in society that can actually get around things being blocked is surprisingly low.
I deal with a HUGE number of people that are considered "tech savvy" but in reality, they are nearly tech illiterate.
I also agree with JHood. I don't see any major changes happening in the near future.
cfortune
10-01-2016, 00:19
.onion ?
jhood001
10-01-2016, 00:36
.onion ?
Probably worse. The 'Onion', while having a clear bias in its' leanings, at least recognizes itself as a satire site.
There are plenty of other sites and channels that are pushing this as if it is real/possible/inevitable etc.
I'm not sure which is worse.
Imagine the shit-storm that would occur if the 'UN' shut down a bunch of sites... over-night, that fed this country. Regardless of political beliefs, the outrage and response would be BEYOND overwhelming.
::Waves hand:: This isn't the Red Dawn scenario you are hoping for.
However, if it was: The A-Team would probably come to help you.
I believe it, because apparently the UN has already removed the link explaining what the hell this thread is about.
BushMasterBoy
10-01-2016, 00:53
It will last as long as Cyber Command lets it. Constitutional rights are a thing of the past, for the last 40 years. It has been lies and deception from all the administrations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command
ClangClang
10-01-2016, 01:16
Probably worse. The 'Onion', while having a clear bias in its' leanings, at least recognizes itself as a satire site.
Whoosh! Right over your head.
.onion is the domain for "deep web" sites generally accessed by the Tor browser. Heavily encrypted, mostly unstoppable, although rumored to have been cracked long ago by the NSA and other 3 letter agencies.
cfortune
10-01-2016, 01:29
Probably worse. The 'Onion', while having a clear bias in its' leanings, at least recognizes itself as a satire site.
There are plenty of other sites and channels that are pushing this as if it is real/possible/inevitable etc.
I'm not sure which is worse.
Imagine the shit-storm that would occur if the 'UN' shut down a bunch of sites... over-night, that fed this country. Regardless of political beliefs, the outrage and response would be BEYOND overwhelming.
::Waves hand:: This isn't the Red Dawn scenario you are hoping for.
However, if it was: The A-Team would probably come to help you.
Google onion sites.... wasnt refering to the satire news publication. Either way, it was joke.
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cfortune
10-01-2016, 01:31
Whoosh! Right over your head.
.onion is the domain for "deep web" sites generally accessed by the Tor browser. Heavily encrypted, mostly unstoppable, although rumored to have been cracked long ago by the NSA and other 3 letter agencies.
Lol, thanks
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As long as people have internet access, there will be a free exchange of ideas and information. There are ways to get around things being blocked.
Unless your ISP is your federal govt., like North Korea, China, etc.
They can't stop the signal.
The fight is always the same. Every time. They go after the same things (free speech, monopoly on violence, identified problem groups, etc). The only thing that changes is how people take up the fight (or not).
Honey Badger282.8
10-01-2016, 10:19
Whoosh! Right over your head.
.onion is the domain for "deep web" sites generally accessed by the Tor browser. Heavily encrypted, mostly unstoppable, although rumored to have been cracked long ago by the NSA and other 3 letter agencies.
Agreed, it's definitely harder to crack than your regular browsers but it's security is overstated. It was invented by the NRL and DARPA after all. They also got the Silk Road hit-for-hire guy.
I'd have thought that a lot of the tinfoil folks would be happy with the US Government passing control over to a private entity.
jhood001
10-01-2016, 10:43
Whoosh! Right over your head.
Right over!
Whoosh! Right over your head.
.onion is the domain for "deep web" sites generally accessed by the Tor browser. Heavily encrypted, mostly unstoppable, although rumored to have been cracked long ago by the NSA and other 3 letter agencies.
Right over!
Me too. I did not know that.
Bailey Guns
10-01-2016, 11:12
IBIL...
In Before Internet Lock?
I've never heard of .onion before, either.
BushMasterBoy
10-01-2016, 11:15
We have seen the enemy...and it is us.
Zundfolge
10-01-2016, 11:21
Most internet users don't have the savvy to use the deep web. I'd put myself far above average and even I am in the dark as to its machinations.
The problem with the UN controlling DNS is that they will be able to subtly control what gets published out in the mainstream internet where the vast majority of people swim. Effectively removing voices against globalism and governmental control from the public discourse.
Most people won't be able to find www.breitbart.com (http://www.breitbart.com) if the DNS record is purged to deny access, most people won't be able to figure out that 72.21.91.19 is their IP address (and for some reason entering their IP address still doesn't take me there).
Sure, many of us will figure out ways to get to our underground lairs, but we'll still be walled off in little ghettos of feedback loops and confirmation bias and not actually influencing opinion or making any changes.
This will sway elections, this will impact public opinion and this will change the nature of governments around the world for the worse.
Once the UN or some other international group of globalist schmucks gets control of DNS I suspect that gun manufacturers and gun related sites will be among the first IP addresses blacklisted.
Time will tell.
If the Internet went to the darkside...well I'd have way more time on my hands to do more important stuff.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Bailey Guns
10-01-2016, 11:37
If the Internet went to the darkside...well I'd have way more time on my hands to do more important stuff.
Good point and probably some truth to it.
But I really enjoy having unrestricted access to practically anything I want to do...learn, shop, entertain myself, annoy others, communicate with like-minded people. I'd really miss it if I couldn't do that.
If Amazon gets blocked I'll be 10 years closer to retirement.
hollohas
10-01-2016, 16:45
I have no idea how the internet works, nor have I even attempted to educate myself on the subject of the "turnover". I truly don't know, in practice, what that means. But I'm against letting it go based simply in principle. I like the idea of our country being in charge of stuff.
NFATrustGuy
10-01-2016, 21:24
If Amazon gets blocked I'll be 10 years closer to retirement.
Plus 1.
Amazon is just too easy. And I don't have to mingle with the masses. :-)
BushMasterBoy
10-01-2016, 22:01
https://countingdownto.com/countdown/obama-out-of-office-20-january-2017-countdown-clock
Great-Kazoo
10-01-2016, 23:42
I have no idea how the internet works, nor have I even attempted to educate myself on the subject of the "turnover". I truly don't know, in practice, what that means. But I'm against letting it go based simply in principle. I like the idea of our country being in charge of stuff.
This is what a turnover is to me. I finally got the hang of texting. There's more ????
https://tse2.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.M94ca4fc17d21064693e12d5ef28418b8H0&pid=15.1&P=0&w=245&h=179
As some one who is closer to this than most, the hyperbole is un-needed. I disagree with the decision, but the ability to control the interwebs it is not.
theGinsue
10-02-2016, 11:51
As some one who is closer to this than most, the hyperbole is un-needed. I disagree with the decision, but the ability to control the interwebs it is not.
Agreed. As a 31 year IT guy, currently a Network Engineer, I recognize the risk here as existing in higher fees for domain registrations imposed by those that now control these things, nothing more.
I also agree with those who oppose this transfer of control out of US hands simply based on principle. Why our government feels the need to give this control over to international administration is beyond me. It's likely just another piece of the puzzle of giving control of our sovereignty over to international control.
I found it interesting how exploitive the .sucks domain fees could be for trademark holders.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVF9lZ-i_ss
They aren't going to shut this or any other, site down.
Even if they could, why would they turn something off when you can use it as a source of data for building profiles on people, running analysis on their metadata, cross referencing it in tools like the ones made by palantir, and using that to make sure no one is stepping out of their lane?
Rucker61
10-04-2016, 12:30
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVF9lZ-i_ss
Didn't the government stop his signal pretty permanently?
Great-Kazoo
10-04-2016, 12:35
Didn't the government stop his signal pretty permanently?
Technically, it wasn't the government.
Martinjmpr
10-04-2016, 12:46
Didn't the government stop his signal pretty permanently?
They killed him but his message still got out - that was kind of the point. ;)
Agreed. As a 31 year IT guy, currently a Network Engineer, I recognize the risk here as existing in higher fees for domain registrations imposed by those that now control these things, nothing more.
I also agree with those who oppose this transfer of control out of US hands simply based on principle. Why our government feels the need to give this control over to international administration is beyond me. It's likely just another piece of the puzzle of giving control of our sovereignty over to international control.
I was not too worried about it, but thanks. :)
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