View Full Version : One month to go and AR's still in stock
kidicarus13
10-08-2016, 21:56
Less than a month before Hillary wins the election and AR's are in stock everywhere I look for reasonable prices. This is a good thing but it does surprise me.
mtnrider
10-08-2016, 22:27
People are just broke and tired after many years of panic. But it will come again. As soon as she is elected it will start again
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KestrelBike
10-08-2016, 22:56
Not to mention, manufacturers have had soooo long to prepare for this by increasing production. Unlike other panics which were brought on by unanticipated "events" (shootings & such)
Yeah, I don't see her doing anything that the current POTUS couldn't pull off over the last 8 years. Sure she will appoint judges that slowly chip away and I am sure more and more regulations will make gun ownership more difficult but the only way a law is going to get passed is if another Sandy Hook type thing happens.
Great-Kazoo
10-09-2016, 01:33
Some people realize that since the house is not going D in any circumstance, there's not going to be any "ban" in the next four when Hillbag gets elected.
But, there are always the sheep foaming at the mouths in gunstores raving about conspiracies and how obumma gunna ban deh guns. So there's always that...
It's been a blessing since we closed.
It's not the legislature you should worry about. It's the 2 - 3 justices Hillary gets. Heller will be the first of many to fall.
Wikileaks email that she will try to impose gun manufacturer liability via executive order. You know, like the cars that are used by drunk people to kill, the hammers used to kill, etc...
Great-Kazoo
10-09-2016, 09:12
I've been the biggest proponent of that argument for a long time
However, I've also known it was a losing battle from the inset. [B]There is enough stark corruption in our broad system [including, e.g. media] that the winner was decided eight years ago.
That said, had a different R candidate been nominated we might have had a chance.
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I can't speak to the market but I can speak for myself. My last black rifle purchase was 08/2014. I'm staying out of it. :)
I have been more focused on collectibles and picked up a couple M1s and M1917. Still looking for a few things in that department as the budget allows.
There is one build I put off (time and $$$) but I'm not missing it.
Of course, I have an unbuilt receiver for every kiddo in the safe too.
SA Friday
10-09-2016, 10:43
The breath before the plunge. If not this year, 2 years at the most.
Wikileaks email that she will try to impose gun manufacturer liability via executive order. You know, like the cars that are used by drunk people to kill, the hammers used to kill, etc...
EOs can be used to expand on existing laws, not reverse them. Bush passed a law that made it so you can't sue manufacturers for crimes committed with their products after the DC Sniper.
BladesNBarrels
10-09-2016, 11:13
EOs can be used to expand on existing laws, not reverse them. Bush passed a law that made it so you can't sue manufacturers for crimes committed with their products after the DC Sniper.
but......
How do you reverse an Executive Order?
Don't you need to go to court?
And then.................
Appeals up to the US Supreme Court?
but......
How do you reverse an Executive Order?
Don't you need to go to court?
And then.................
Appeals up to the US Supreme Court?
The Supreme Court's job is to determine whether something is or is not in line with the Constitution. Regardless of who is who, that would explicitly be the opposite of what is a legal EO. Obama was shot down on his EOs based on that.
I thought EOs are only in effect while the President is in office.
I thought EOs are only in effect while the President is in office.
Nope - that is why Trump is talking about reversing a bunch of hadji's EOs.
I was in a shop yesterday and they had plenty.
.455_Hunter
10-09-2016, 12:45
Question- How does an unbuilt receiver without all parts on-hand do you any good?
Seems to me that if the sale of "assault weapons" and +10 rd mags are banned, it is HIGHLY likely that componet parts for said items will also be banned. Anti-gunners have learned things too, and the loop holes of previous legislation (like the 94 - 04 ban and our own 2013 laws) will NOT be duplicated.
Pretty much they only way I could see to guarantee future ownership buying 80% units and all necessary parts with cash.
Zundfolge
10-09-2016, 14:06
The Supreme Court's job is to determine whether something is or is not in line with the Constitution. Regardless of who is who, that would explicitly be the opposite of what is a legal EO. Obama was shot down on his EOs based on that.
That's what the job of the SCOTUS is now, but after Hillary stacks it with more Kagens and Sotomeyors it will be used to nullify the Constitution, not determine whether things are in line with it (Ruth Buzzy Ginsberg has already sad if Hillary wins she's retiring, so yes it'll be at least two seats replaced by Hillary first quarter 2017).
She's already said that's what she's going to do with Citizens United and Heller (and there's another big 2A case headed to the SCOTUS so that will be easy).
Once Hillary wins, the Constitution will be redefined to say whatever she wants to to say.
Also there's a greater than 50% chance that the Senate falls to the Dems ... Hillary + Harry Ried back in charge of the Senate means these changes come in weeks or months, not years.
Anyone that thinks the SCOTUS is going to stop Hillary is deluded (and I don't trust the R's in the House to do much of anything other than bitch that "well we don't have the Senate or the White House so we can't do anything but rubber stamp Chancellor Hitlery's edicts).
Question- How does an unbuilt receiver without all parts on-hand do you any good?
Seems to me that if the sale of "assault weapons" and +10 rd mags are banned, it is HIGHLY likely that componet parts for said items will also be banned. Anti-gunners have learned things too, and the loop holes of previous legislation (like the 94 - 04 ban and our own 2013 laws) will NOT be duplicated.
Pretty much they only way I could see to guarantee future ownership buying 80% units and all necessary parts with cash.]
There are no guarantees either way. The guys with 80% lowers are in good shape until it becomes a felony with a $20K reward for info leading to arrest/conviction. What good is a 80% lower AR when it can never see the light of day? Keeping it for the civil war that the person would never fight (or he wouldn't have a bought a 80% lower in the first place)?
Unbuilt receivers are valuable because the probably of a ban without grandfathering is minimal. Impossible, no, but not probable. No grandfathering means they have to come for guns. How many times have they said "we aren't coming for your guns, we just want x." Well, they couldn't hide that in semantics. And there is a Fourth Amendment hurdle to jump through. In previous state/local bans, the option has always existed to move. Wouldn't be the case with a fed ban absent grandfathering.
I bought receivers for $60. That's great common sense insurance. Again, no guarantees.
And I have all the parts for builds/maintenance too. Everything got outrageously cheap after ~2012 (thereabouts). You could build a PSA carbine/mid-length (no frills) for < $500. 6920s dipped into $800 range (the same gun was $1300+ during the 2008 panic). Aluminum GI mags were $6.99/each. I could go on.
Question- How does an unbuilt receiver without all parts on-hand do you any good?
I find it hard to believe they could ban the unregulated AR parts. If AR’s are banned and they want you to turn them in, the receiver is the only regulated part and therefore the gun. If a lot of people strip every AR down to just a bare receiver before they turn it in, the guys with 80% receivers may be the only place you could sell parts. It could be that there would be a glut of AR parts.
I find it hard to believe they could ban the unregulated AR parts. If AR’s are banned and they want you to turn them in, the receiver is the only regulated part and therefore the gun. If a lot of people strip every AR down to just a bare receiver before they turn it in, the guys with 80% receivers may be the only place you could sell parts. It could be that there would be a glut of AR parts.
It wouldn't be the first time the gov attempted to go after LPKs & other related build parts.
Zundfolge
10-09-2016, 20:38
At one time the fed.gov banned private ownership of gold ... they can do pretty much anything (especially if they control the SCOTUS and can interpret it however they like).
So at this point nothing would surprise me.
That said; I will not submit.
spqrzilla
10-10-2016, 16:20
I find it hard to believe they could ban the unregulated AR parts. If AR’s are banned and they want you to turn them in, the receiver is the only regulated part and therefore the gun. If a lot of people strip every AR down to just a bare receiver before they turn it in, the guys with 80% receivers may be the only place you could sell parts. It could be that there would be a glut of AR parts.
The status of the AR lower receiver is not statutory. Its a regulatory interpretation.
I'm heading out on the boat this weekend to clean all my guns... anyone want to join?
Just give it time. When Hillary wins, things will get bumpy.
Well OP did it and spread the BRD (again).
Another lower inbound to start my Election '16 build! Wish me luck!!!
KestrelBike
10-12-2016, 14:35
At one time the fed.gov banned private ownership of gold ... they can do pretty much anything (especially if they control the SCOTUS and can interpret it however they like).
So at this point nothing would surprise me.
That said; I will not submit.
Zundfolge: are we f'ed come Nov 8th? What's your prediction? Me, I think it's all over. I think cankles wins.
Zundfolge
10-12-2016, 14:43
Zundfolge: are we f'ed come Nov 8th? What's your prediction? Me, I think it's all over. I think cankles wins.
Probably ... but stranger things have happened (Brexit won, for example).
Zundfolge: are we f'ed come Nov 8th? What's your prediction? Me, I think it's all over. I think cankles wins.
Me too, and I'm sick to my stomach thinking about it.
Just can't wait for post-election price gouging posts...
This is a long video, and only a portion of it can directly be related to the current political climate, but it is interesting nonetheless and may help some people on here feel better about the cyclical changes of how populations act socially.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD0x7ho_IYc&feature=youtu.be
May need someone to change the mobile link for me.
Wait until the day after the election.. I could see gun shops stocking up and staying open late that night.. "Midnight assr@pe Sale!"
It's not the legislature you should worry about. It's the 2 - 3 justices Hillary gets. Heller will be the first of many to fall.
It has always been my understanding that the Supreme Court does not simply overturn previous decisions, in the case of Heller it would take a new case with a similar argument which would also require them to rule to hear the case in the first place. The Supreme Court hasn't taken on a new 2a case in a while choosing to send pretty much everything back down to lower courts.
One wouldn't have to attend the assr@pe sale if they planned ahead just a smidgen.
Great-Kazoo
10-12-2016, 17:48
It has always been my understanding that the Supreme Court does not simply overturn previous decisions, in the case of Heller it would take a new case with a similar argument which would also require them to rule to hear the case in the first place. The Supreme Court hasn't taken on a new 2a case in a while choosing to send pretty much everything back down to lower courts.
You sleep through Hillary saying she wanted to do away with C/United, Protection for gun manufacturers, Australian Gun Laws? Each one of those could be a challenge from VPC , Soros funded groups on the constitutionality of said rulings.
We've lost 2 ? lower court rulings, after the Court has kicked them back.
Zundfolge
10-12-2016, 20:36
There's no reason to believe that a SCOTUS packed with anti-Constitutionalists and other assorted leftists will continue ANY of the traditions the court has followed up to this point. Nor that they'll follow the law as written, just as they want to believe it's written.
The court will no longer be about determining what the constitution says and means, it will be about re-interpreting it by any means necessary to rubber stamp whatever unconstitutional bullshit Hillary sends their way.
On a side note I was just at Family Firearms at Maizeland and Academy (down here in the Springs) and they had a TON of ARs (along with lots of other cool stuff like Tavors, Kriss Vectors and DP12 shotguns)
Each month for the last year or so has set a new record for the number of NICs checks, which means guns are still being sold at record rates.
As a result, the infrastructure is already in place, and when the inevitable panic buying starts (probably when the first announcement of legislation is released) we'll see price jumps, but probably not as much of a constrained supply.
sneakerd
10-13-2016, 10:12
Regardless of these "record NICs reports", anyone who works in the gun biz will tell you that the last 2 months have been terrible. Gun sales actually down. Plenty of everything in stock, including mass amounts of .22. AR market is dead..... right now.
Zundfolge
10-13-2016, 11:37
Regardless who wins next month, right now is a real good time to buy ... I really wish I had my Jeep sold so I could take advantage of this current market.
sellersm
10-13-2016, 12:15
Regardless who wins next month, right now is a real good time to buy ... I really wish I had my Jeep sold so I could take advantage of this current market.
^This. Wish my stuff sold for the same reason. Things are amazingly slow, my FFL buddy told me he can't hardly give some stuff away, especially revolvers. SMH. People will think differently very soon
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Side note: PSA has apparently dropped their entire line of PA-10's and uppers from their website. Not sure why, could just be temporary.
That would suck if permanent; I have a couple lowers in a box somewhere; I should have purchased a couple of their stripped uppers a few weeks ago.
I waited too long to get a few odds and ends to finish up a couple builds. Upper receivers from the usual places are sold out. Parts are not as easy to find and the prices have gone up.
I've heard wholesalers are getting thin on products.
It's going to be ugly when the hildabeast is elected and congress turns over; prepare for a really bad year.
Kraven251
10-26-2016, 16:36
That would suck if permanent; I have a couple lowers in a box somewhere; I should have purchased a couple of their stripped uppers a few weeks ago.
I waited too long to get a few odds and ends to finish up a couple builds. Upper receivers from the usual places are sold out. Parts are not as easy to find and the prices have gone up.
Aero uppers may mate with them well.
Kraven251
10-26-2016, 16:36
On the positive note with the media saying how much of a lead she has etc, maybe some D voters will stay home.
Zundfolge
10-26-2016, 16:44
^This. Wish my stuff sold for the same reason. Things are amazingly slow, my FFL buddy told me he can't hardly give some stuff away, especially revolvers. SMH. People will think differently very soon
I will gladly take all the wheel guns he's willing to give away. Hell, I'd even take a Taurus if it was free :p
Aero uppers may mate with them well.
The PSA & (PTAC)s only work with PSA uppers. I believe the Aeros are DPMS. I have both; the area by the buffer tube is shaped differently.
kidicarus13
10-26-2016, 18:48
Although I'm generally a big PSA fan I've read a number of poor reviews for PA-10's.
funkymonkey1111
10-26-2016, 20:22
saw a good number of stripped lowers (Aero, Spikes, Anderson, and some others i didn't recognize) at Triple J today.
Murdochs is out of lowers, should get some in sometime.
Great-Kazoo
10-26-2016, 21:46
The PSA & (PTAC)s only work with PSA uppers. I believe the Aeros are DPMS. I have both; the area by the buffer tube is shaped differently.
There's a difference between the Gen 1&2 DPMS rifles. Do the homework before finding out you have in compatible parts
Great-Kazoo
10-27-2016, 01:49
Reliability issues with cycling, chamber spec, a few other random things. Not all together, but enough gremlins to double check. PSA is, IMO, the middle man for manufacturers. Very rarely is an item "shipped same or next day"
My issue with the AR-10 platform.... lack of uniformity. You can't try your friends bcg at the range if it's not the same mfg. Because part A will not fit in gun b' s receiver.
ruthabagah
10-27-2016, 04:49
That's why you don't want to go with the AR10 but with the LR-308 platform. Much better reliability and availability of parts.
Bailey Guns
10-27-2016, 07:09
Things are amazingly slow, my FFL buddy told me he can't hardly give some stuff away, especially revolvers. SMH. People will think differently very soon.
That's funny. Owner at a shop I frequent said revolvers are the ONLY thing selling. It appears to be slow here, too. But hunting and fishing are in full swing and that's all people live for here. Probably pick up soon, I'm guessing.
Kraven251
10-27-2016, 09:10
People finished up with most of the AR "shit going sideways" builds and are getting back to their recreation/fun guns. Though I am surprised by the current abundance of ammo, but there were a considerable amount of people that went in hock to get thousands of rounds etc, that really weren't thousands of round shooters, so definitely a surplus out there for the moment.
I usually do SGammo for my ammo orders and the wolf gold 1,000 round packs have been out of stock most of the time I check lately. I just set to have an email sent when it comes back in stock so I can see how quick it sells.
There's a difference between the Gen 1&2 DPMS rifles. Do the homework before finding out you have in compatible parts
Actually, I definitely did the homework, and both my LR308 builds went together perfectly Including the right rail height of the DPMS upper and my handguard of which there are two different heights. I just have two different platforms so I test fitted among the two builds to see the differences. I also have a few spare stripped lowers sitting in a box.
I pulled out the two rifles again and swapped out lower/uppers on them to check the differences. I could pin together the DPMS upper to my PSA lower; not a great fit but they pin together. I couldn't pin together my PSA upper to my LR308 patterned Shadow Ops lower; verified the receiver adjustment screw was backed out all the way (shadow ops had this feature). I would need to clearance the rear takedown lug on the upper for it to seat correctly with the lower. I'm not sure how this would fit on other LR308 patterned lowers.
Edit: I called PSA, and they are not discontinuing the PA-10. However, production is on hold right now for logistical reasons; so, my lowers aren't useless. Back to the original post...I am not interested in trying to make something else work; I would prefer to keep PSA with PSA.
colorider
10-27-2016, 10:59
I usually do SGammo for my ammo orders and the wolf gold 1,000 round packs have been out of stock most of the time I check lately. I just set to have an email sent when it comes back in stock so I can see how quick it sells.
target sports USA seems to have an endless supply of,the stuff.
target sports USA seems to have an endless supply of,the stuff.
How does this stuff compare? Pretty decent?
target sports USA seems to have an endless supply of,the stuff.
Yeah, I ordered through them once a little while ago when SG was out. It was a little more expensive. Shipping took a little longer but I was happy. I know one member had a bad experience with them though on some .22 ammo.
How does this stuff compare? Pretty decent?
Wolf gold is good stuff. Ive never had any issues after about 5-600 rounds of it. Reloadable brass too.
PSA PA10 upper + LR308 lower = charging handle may not clear buffer tube yoke.
Personal experience. Two separate uppers and lowers. Interference of ~.030". Coworker removed material from yoke on his. He is running it.
I was not comfortable going that route, as I felt there was some mis-alignment between bore axis and buffer tube axis.
The upside?
I now have a complete PA10 and a complete non PA10. Had tight-chamber issues with my PA10, but that was addressed and now runs smoothly & reliably. Had no issues with other setup.
colorider
10-27-2016, 12:34
Wolf gold is awesome ammo. Shoots cleaner than pmc, freedom. Accurate too. Have never had a problem. Target Sports' prices today are higher than they have been in a year. Pre election pricing. Wolf gold jumped $20 a case.
So the lower wasn't a problem.
Neither was the LPK or the stock. But you know what I can't find for a reasonable price? A buffer tube!
I see Brownells has one for $40.
Thankfully I have a spare PSA kit sitting around so I'll use that tube, nut, and plate and just replace when time allows.
Ammo seems to be drying up. SGammo, Targetsportsusa and Luckygunner are sold out of Wolf Gold. Luckgunner is up to $375/1k. The other two havent marked it up but also nothing in stock so that could change once in stock again.
So the lower wasn't a problem.
Neither was the LPK or the stock. But you know what I can't find for a reasonable price? A buffer tube!
I see Brownells has one for $40.
Thankfully I have a spare PSA kit sitting around so I'll use that tube, nut, and plate and just replace when time allows.
I heard a few weeks ago that buffers are the bitch to find right now.. pistol more so than rifle, at least for the regular cheapo ones.
Great-Kazoo
11-04-2016, 15:45
So the lower wasn't a problem.
Neither was the LPK or the stock. But you know what I can't find for a reasonable price? A buffer tube!
I see Brownells has one for $40.
Thankfully I have a spare PSA kit sitting around so I'll use that tube, nut, and plate and just replace when time allows.
I know where some buffer tube assy's are in stock;)
Went by The Firing Line today. The racks are all fully stocked with rifles, lowers and parts.
I'm not sure but PSA may be compatible with CMMG? I can't remember if I ever cross mated them at the shop but it kind of seems like I did. Can't be sure as far as the buffer tube though.
I've seen some AR-10's people brought in that didn't mate well on the otherhand, it's a pain trying to ID things based on counting bolt lugs.
They just had a deal on CHF keymod complete PA-10 upper's too.... around $600 for a FN cold hammer forged, double chrome line barreled upper... shoulda snagged one. Probably last three generations. After that, everything listed as out of stock, now gone. They were talking about releasing gen 2 PSA lowers not that long ago (4 months or so), with suggestions that they would be in stock in 90 days, then 90 days again, then 90 days again, so I wonder if something up and completely imploded as far as that goes and they have zero production.
A lot of AR-10's have kinks across various manufacturers, but generally they are easy to work out - including PSA.
I built a 308 AR from a CMMG upper and PSA lower. I never had a chance to fire the damn thing before it was on the chopping block due to some unexpected bills coming up...but it went together just fine and seemed like it would function as intended from what I could tell.
I heard a few weeks ago that buffers are the bitch to find right now.. pistol more so than rifle, at least for the regular cheapo ones.
No kidding. And it looks like the folks that have them online have jacked the prices a bit.
I know where some buffer tube assy's are in stock;)
Well, whatever you do, don't tell us! [Coffee]
Or are you meaning "in a stock" in stock?
Great-Kazoo
11-04-2016, 17:31
No kidding. And it looks like the folks that have them online have jacked the prices a bit.
Well, whatever you do, don't tell us! [Coffee]
Or are you meaning "in a stock" in stock?
Stock, as in sitting on my shelves .
I have a new one as well that I didn't use in my build.
HoneyBadger
11-04-2016, 18:42
Palmetto State has lots of stuff in stock, but they aren't the lowest prices I've ever seen from them.
Rucker61
11-04-2016, 19:23
Stock, as in sitting on my shelves .
I'm just waiting for the moving sale. ;)
Great-Kazoo
11-04-2016, 19:35
I'm just waiting for the moving sale. ;)
People have been stopping by all week. I almost let those powder wheels go.
I'm just waiting for the moving sale. ;)
People have been stopping by all week. I almost let those powder wheels go.
Dafuq?
Powder wheels are left over from
a sit in in the 70's.
Do not touch the powder wheels.
Rucker61
11-05-2016, 05:41
Dafuq?
Powderwheelsareusedtocentrifugepowdertoalignthegra ins.Idothistoimprovetheburnrate.
Powderwheelsareusedtocentrifugepowdertoalignthegra ins.Idothistoimprovetheburnrate.
I meant the 'moving sale' part.
Powderwheelsareusedtocentrifugepowdertoalignthegra ins.Idothistoimprovetheburnrate.
are
you having the same problem I am? Start replying to a thread on the first line and it doesn't like spaces.
Great-Kazoo
11-05-2016, 08:39
are
you having the same problem I am? Start replying to a thread on the first line and it doesn't like spaces.
Me Too. It happens using chrome, then started in firedfux
Same here. it also won't automatically capitalize the first letter of a new a sentence. started on Monday. using chrome on an android tablet.
I meant the 'moving sale' part.
He's been talking about moving for years now.
He's been talking about moving for years now.
Oh. OK. I thought maybe he got serious about putting that plan in action & I missed the going away party.
Great-Kazoo
11-05-2016, 13:37
He's been talking about moving for years now.
realtor came by this morning ;)
Probably just to buy primers or something though.
are
you having the same problem I am? Start replying to a thread on the first line and it doesn't like spaces.
This happened to me for a while. I'd have to hit enter, get to the next line then press delete to get back to the first line. After that I could enter spaces again. After a day or two the issue just stopped.
HoneyBadger
11-05-2016, 22:57
it also won't automatically capitalize the first letter of a new a sentence. started on Monday. using chrome on an android tablet.
I've been having this issue on my iPad for more than a year.
I've been having this issue on my iPad for more than a year.
Oh yeah? Weird...
kidicarus13
11-06-2016, 08:57
https://www.ar-15.co/showthread.php?t=71001
Now back to our originally scheduled program...
clodhopper
11-06-2016, 09:02
Google stuff has been struggling, maybe from attacks. A client of mine in China said all Google is offline there, no gmail, nothing.
Great-Kazoo
11-06-2016, 09:15
Google stuff has been struggling, maybe from attacks. A client of mine in China said all Google is offline there, no gmail, nothing.
Buut can the recommend a good delivery service ?
HoneyBadger
11-06-2016, 09:50
Oh yeah? Weird...
I just suspected it is because my iPad is one of the originals... It's almost 7 years old.
https://www.ar-15.co/showthread.php?t=71001
Now back to our originally scheduled program...
Get that nonsense out of this thread! Lets stay on topic here. [ROFL1]
PSA has buffers back in stock.... $29.99. That's a sucker price! So I just ordered.
Prices seem to be dropping. I was looking at their built lowers and a basic setup is on sale for $149.99 (again, built so you're getting all the lower parts for that price).
I suspect there will be a lot of unfired guns hitting GB.com and other sites as Christmas approaches and credit card bills come due.
kidicarus13
11-12-2016, 11:02
I suspect there will be a lot of unfired guns hitting GB.com and other sites as Christmas approaches and credit card bills come due.
Looking forward to it.
SideShow Bob
11-12-2016, 12:17
With the results of the election, l think that most manufacturers are overstocked & the Black Friday and pre XMas sales will have lots of good deals.
Waiting with bated breath.......
I was in the Gander in Parker yesterday and it was packed with liberal looking types buying guns. It appears that the libs now feel like we did when BHO got in, TEOTWAWKI, I love it!!!
I was in the Gander in Parker yesterday and it was packed with liberal looking types buying guns. It appears that the libs now feel like we did when BHO got in, TEOTWAWKI, I love it!!!
How exactly does one look liberal? Were they flat out hippy with dreads and whatnot?
Circuits
11-12-2016, 14:10
How exactly does one look liberal? Were they flat out hippy with dreads and whatnot?
Manbun or dreads would do it.
I was profiling and stereotyping.
I was profiling and stereotyping.
Fair enough.
kidicarus13
11-12-2016, 16:14
How exactly does one look liberal? Were they flat out hippy with dreads and whatnot?
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161112/503fbb19671f75670f3440ceed4870b4.jpg
FYI... feminists are liberals.
HoneyBadger
11-12-2016, 21:38
Honestly, if liberals are going to be protesting and rioting and generally acting like asshats, I'd rather they didn't buy any guns.
Great-Kazoo
11-12-2016, 22:46
Honestly, if liberals are going to be protesting and rioting and generally acting like asshats, I'd rather they didn't buy any guns.
The few i know purchased guns due to concerns about the increase of crime , home break ins and over all seedy people wandering their area.. These folks live in Ft Collins, close to parks, where the aclu has given them residence. under the guise of 1st amendment. That outdated amendment of the constitution.
SideShow Bob
11-13-2016, 09:26
where the aclu has given them residence. under the guise of 1st amendment. That outdated amendment of the constitution.
What the....... Oh,wait....., I see the sarcasm now......
I see what you did there, Foxtrot.
[Awesom]
BlasterBob
11-13-2016, 10:18
[Sarcasm2][Sarcasm2]
What the....... Oh,wait....., I see the sarcasm now......
The "sarcasm alert" is sometimes needed but not always used.
The few i know purchased guns due to concerns about the increase of crime , home break ins and over all seedy people wandering their area.. These folks live in Ft Collins, close to parks, where the aclu has given them residence. under the guise of 1st amendment. That outdated amendment of the constitution.
And that's legitimate. Hopefully they will make an effort to reconcile their political beliefs with how they solved their own security problem.
I'm ever impressed that the people who say government should do everything for us are the ones that admit the government can't do everything for us.
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The "sarcasm alert" is sometimes needed but not always used.
Sarcasm. Learn it. Know it. Live it.
beast556
11-13-2016, 18:39
I was in the Gander in Parker yesterday and it was packed with liberal looking types buying guns. It appears that the libs now feel like we did when BHO got in, TEOTWAWKI, I love it!!!
Dont worry shooting guns makes liberals sick and gives them ptsd.
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