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DavieD55
10-09-2016, 00:46
Full Article (http://www.activistpost.com/2016/09/student-suspended-visited-cops-forced-psych-eval-pro-2nd-amendment-school-project.html)





Student Suspended, Visited by Cops, Forced Psych Eval — For Pro 2nd Amendment School Project

By Jack Burns September 30, 2016

Time out, lunch detention, and in-school suspension are all forms of discipline, among others, which teachers have employed to punish students for misbehavior. But after Frank Harvey, 17, a Manville, NJ, high school senior, completed a pro-2nd Amendment project, his school ordered him to get his head checked.

The incident began Monday after Harvey, as many students sometimes do, left his USB drive in the computer lab. Another student opened Harvey’s 11th-grade project and reported him to school officials.

At 7pm Monday evening, Harvey’s family said they were paid a visit by local law enforcement, who investigated Harvey’s claims the project was from last school year, and cleared him of any criminal mischief.

But that apparently wasn’t enough to satisfy the Manville School District who suspended and then promptly ordered Harvey to undergo a 5-hour psychological evaluation stemming from the months later discovery of his anti-gun control project.

It seems the teacher, who assigned the work, can no longer recall having done so. But the 12th grader disagrees and so does his family.




Harvey said his teacher approved his topic (against gun control), he completed the project, and received an “A” for his efforts.

Harvey, now a 12th-grader, says he completed the project as an assignment for his College Career Readiness class during the 2015-16 school year.

Screenshots of the video project titled “About Guns” show Harvey’s position was supportive of an individual’s right to self-defense using guns. He cited several incidents involving home break-ins that were thwarted when a homeowner fought back with a firearm.

Harvey also inserted a few political cartoons which suggested citizens should arm themselves in the event of an active shooter scenario, and another which stated gun-free zones don’t keep citizens safer.

The Harvey family, so disturbed by the demand their son undergo a psychological evaluation, and desiring to clear their son’s name, took their case to the court of public opinion and notified New Jersey’s News Channel 12.

“I’ve never been a violent person,” the soft-spoken young man told reporter Chris Keating adding, “I’ve never had detention in my life!”

Explaining further, he said, “It was assigned by the teacher and I got the topic which was anti-gun control approved by the teacher.”

Harvey’s mother Mary Vervan said, “I’m not taking him for a psychological evaluation because this teacher is lying and won’t own up to what she did.” Vervan alleges, “the teacher assigned it, my son did his homework, and he got kicked out of school for it.”


“They basically labeled them, pigeonholed them, torment them, hold that against them, watch every move they make,” Vervan said in reference to the treatment her son received.

The Manville School District refused to comment on Harvey’s individual case with reporters but the incident has now made national news in what appears to be yet another suppression of a student’s right to free speech, notably speech involving a position supportive of firearms.

His family, instead of complying with the school district’s orders, withdrew Harvey from Manville High School and he now says he’s focused on earning his GED.

Bailey Guns
10-09-2016, 03:09
Reason #2,499,357 to hate liberals, leftists, progressives, political correctness, etc.

DavieD55
10-09-2016, 03:48
Frank Harvey for house of reps 2024/2026

DavieD55
10-09-2016, 04:30
I hope someone picks this kid (Man) up and puts him on a Jr legal team.

Irving
10-09-2016, 08:43
Why would he go straight to a GED instead of trying to switch to a different school? They probably tried and no other school would have him, but the article makes him/them sound like quitters.

CS1983
10-09-2016, 09:01
GED will only hurt him if he doesn't get a college degree. He's a bit behind the curve for that to be a good "knock off 2 years" plan. He'd be better off to homeschool his last year w/ dual enrollment at the local community college to get a jump start on his gen ed classes. Knew a chick in high school who dropped out and got her GED at 16. She immediately went to Uni of Florida and graduated w/ a Bachelors at 19 and was done w/ law school by like 22 or 23. "Dropping out" was the smartest thing she could have done because high school is a waste of at least 2 years because middle school is a waste and stunted. Historically, people were finishing their bachelor degree by like... 20 or so.

Aloha_Shooter
10-09-2016, 09:08
For those looking for a citation from a different website:
NRA-ILA: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160930/reports-nj-school-officials-suspend-student-over-pro-gun-presentation
(https://www.nraila.org/articles/20160930/reports-nj-school-officials-suspend-student-over-pro-gun-presentation)NJ.com: http://www.nj.com/somerset/index.ssf/2016/09/high_school_student_reportedly_suspended_for_anti-.html
Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/10/01/report-nj-high-school-suspends-student-over-anti-gun-control-class-project.html

gnihcraes
10-09-2016, 09:39
My son did a gun control project/presentation last year in HS. Teacher approved, we created all the stuff, he wrote the paper and made a story board with gun pictures and everything. He got a decent grade and there was no fallout from it. Good discussions from all the students and staff. I'm glad it turned out well.

Skip
10-09-2016, 10:35
42 U.S. §1983 [civil rights violation] pays for 100% of attorney fees upon prevailing. Municipalities and schools also rarely enjoy sovereign immunity. Why I don't enjoy a litigious society, suing the pants off any school that did crap like this would tend to make them all stop.

That still won't stop it because the activist educrats can push the liability back to the taxpayers.

I think there should be a provision, similar to corps (veil piercing), that when the behavior of a civil servant (in any capacity [schools = gov]) is so outrageous that it rises to knowingly depriving another American of his civil liberties that there is personal liability.

Great-Kazoo
10-09-2016, 12:22
Why would he go straight to a GED instead of trying to switch to a different school? They probably tried and no other school would have him, but the article makes him/them sound like quitters.

In 2 words: New jersey

clodhopper
10-09-2016, 15:10
My son did a gun control project/presentation last year in HS. Teacher approved, we created all the stuff, he wrote the paper and made a story board with gun pictures and everything. He got a decent grade and there was no fallout from it. Good discussions from all the students and staff. I'm glad it turned out well.

The Harvey situation would also likely been a non-issue had the teacher backed the students claims. However it sounds like she had second thoughts that her previous decision might be questioned, so she pulled the Hillary pass and left Harvey to swing in the breeze.

And we expect our children to become adults by following the examples in their lives....

Skip
10-09-2016, 16:32
That does exist presently, sort of. There are individual and official capacity actions, generally hybridized into the same complaint. E.g. to the extent something wasn't official it was individual, and vice versa. Outrageous Conduct is a tort claim often included that goes to the individual capacity side. Sometimes though, the individual is still protected under the entity's broad insurance umbrella, or obligations of the state to defend them, or under risk management indemnification funds (state funded). You can't obligate the state treasury in an action in any circumstance. County may be a different story, but at most they can raise bonds or something else to pay obligations, or it is usually covered by an insurance umbrella that will then hike premiums.

Where additional pressure comes from is either the city/county attorney or the state A.G. has a lot of pain in defending actions like this... especially if there is more than one.

Standard disclaimer: *this post does not constitute legal advice, hire an attorney to seek legal advice*

That's good to know.

I would prefer there be a hearing to determine that and then the offender is on his own dime. And I'm only talking about the most serious conduct here. Not "he made me feel bad" and therefore I sue him personally. Nor am I talking standard liability that is a "cost of doing business" in the public sector.

earplug
10-09-2016, 17:16
The next time a candidate says they will enforce the laws already on the books, think again about the laws and their effects.