Palestinian Claims

[Aloha_Shooter]

So apparently the Palestinian Authority is now claiming the Dead Sea Scrolls are an item of Palestinian heritage and must be "returned" to them. That, along with their claim that Jesus of Nazareth was a Palestinian spawned a new hashtag, #PalestinianClaims

https://twitter.com/hashtag/PalestinianClaims?src=hash

You just can't make this stuff up ... it's right up there with no classified emails on the Clinton server, not remembering if she was trained that all crap she decided to do was illegal, and Bill Clinton was never alone with Monica Lewinsky.

[CS1983]

Palestinians are Essene Jews? heh.

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[ROFL2]

Has the UN produced a resolution yet?

It's okay though, Islam is generally very protective of other faiths.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/_new/130131-bamiyan-talib.660;660;7;70;0.jpg

[Gman]

They can claim whatever they want...but they still don't have a country known as Palestine.

[Ronin13]

They can claim whatever they want...but they still don't have a country known as Palestine.

And didn't back in the times when Jesus was around. Jesus was well known as an Israelite.

[BushMasterBoy]

The real messiah was a briton and a roman soldier. The book is a lie.

[CS1983]

The real messiah was a briton and a roman soldier. The book is a lie.

Wut

[MED]

Palestine was a Roman province; which was made up of different peoples, faiths, and kingdoms all of which were conquered during Rome's rule. Palestine died with the Roman empire. The "Palestinians" as they call themselves have numerous Arab countries in the region to choose from, I suggest they get over themselves and move to one, or live in the sovereign nation they are located.

[roberth]

Palestine was a Roman province; which was made up of different peoples, faiths, and kingdoms all of which were conquered during Rome's rule. Palestine died with the Roman empire. The "Palestinians" as they call themselves have numerous Arab countries in the region to choose from, I suggest they get over themselves and move to one, or live in the sovereign nation they are located.

Therein lies the problem, no other Arab country wants them. Even among Arabs the pali's are dogs.

[Jamnanc]

The conflict over the scrolls is more than a decade old with several conspiracy theories. The primary theory is that the Jews don't want to release because they prove the messiah has come. Secondary is the Catholic Church doesn't want them released for the opppsite reason up to and including a botched canoninazation.

[CS1983]

botched canonization?

[roberth]

actually Jordan gave all of the Palis citizenship. However some are Jordanian citizens and still are collecting money from the UN for being refugees.

If you read the Balfour declaration Israel was originally supposed to be given Jordan. Instead a rich Sheik (now king)basically bought it with his money and influence from England. So that is the part of Israel that should have all the Palis in it.

Thanks HBAR!!

[CS1983]

The conflict over the scrolls is more than a decade old with several conspiracy theories. The primary theory is that the Jews don't want to release because they prove the messiah has come. Secondary is the Catholic Church doesn't want them released for the opppsite reason up to and including a botched canoninazation.

Was unable to access YouTube at the time I originally replied to this and just remembered it when watching a video on YouTube. Anyway, I don't understand the idea Jamnanc expressed, that the Church doesn't want the Scrolls released. As far back as at least 1958, Ancient Semitic language expert Fr. Malachi Martin, S.J., published an entire 2-in-1 volume work regarding the scrolls. Further complicating the claim is that the scrolls are not yet translated in their entirety (most are simply fragments), aren't even the property of the Church (can't release what you don't own; Julian Assange isn't Pope), etc.

Dr. John Bergsma: Discusses some aspects of the Qumran community (Essenes, one of the three major factions within Judaism at the time of Christ) based on their communal writings found in the DSS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OS3uV2ULas

Fr. Malachi Martin, PhD: Don't believe this is in print anymore, but it shows that a prominent Catholic scholar did extensive work on the DSS teams

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malachi_Martin#cite_note-9
https://books.google.com/books/about/The_Scribal_Character_of_the_Dead_Sea_Sc.html?id=R XYrAAAAIAAJ

Dr. Brant Pitre: Building off of the Qumranic community's Holy Meal concept(based on Malachi Ch.1, and the offering of Melchisedech of bread and wine), shows the continuity of the Essene's essential beliefs as found within the Church until the Protestant revolt and subsequent sectarian disbelief in the Real Presence (ever wonder why Satanists never steal some Baptist church's croutons? The demons don't care about bread-as-bread). Additionally, shows the cross-sect Jewish belief in the foretold foundations of the Eucharist per the Temple Bread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P45BHDRA7pU

I realize this is essentially 2.5 hours of viewing, but if you have the time it's absolutely fascinating.

[Doc45]

The "Palestinians" (yes the same folks who celebrated in the streets on 9/11) can kiss my ass. The Dead Sea Scrolls physically belong to Israel though the writings are for all of humanity. In 1986 I had the opportunity to visit the Qumran Caves. A very humbling experience.

[fportmen45]

actually Jordan gave all of the Palis citizenship. However some are Jordanian citizens and still are collecting money from the UN for being refugees.

If you read the Balfour declaration Israel was originally supposed to be given Jordan. Instead a rich Sheik (now king)basically bought it with his money and influence from England. So that is the part of Israel that should have all the Palis in it.

This.

[Jamnanc]

botched canonization?
Not saying I agree, but anti-Christian folks have been spouting about it for a long time.

[Mick-Boy]

If you read the Balfour declaration Israel was originally supposed to be given Jordan. Instead a rich Sheik (now king)basically bought it with his money and influence from England. So that is the part of Israel that should have all the Palis in it.

No. It wasn't.

If you read the Balfour declaration, the British government expressed “sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations” and viewed with favour "the establishment in Palestine of a National Home for the Jewish People,". It didn't "give" anyone anything and it wasn't meant to.

Mandatory Trans-Jordan was established to make good on some of the (conflicting) promises the British made during WW1. Specifically, the establishment of an Arab state after the Arab revolt against the Ottoman Empire.

The name "Palestine" has been around for millennia but was formalized in 1923 by the League of Nations as the name for the region.

[CS1983]

Not saying I agree, but anti-Christian folks have been spouting about it for a long time.
Still don't know what you mean. Canonization of who?