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Great-Kazoo
11-29-2016, 20:46
Would it not be better for a seller to keep the price & description, listed even when the item has been sold. This way one gets a feel for the average selling (asking) price. PLUS... It might clear up an issue IF the buyer was told one thing and item received was not in condition advertised .

Could get ugly when a buyer post I was Ripped Off by X. With the item no longer shown and description, who knows what's what.


Mods what ya'll think?

kwando
11-29-2016, 20:50
I agree!

Gunner
11-29-2016, 20:56
I agree

newracer
11-29-2016, 21:05
I have always thought that. IIRC it was brought up a while ago and shot down.


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TheNewKC
11-29-2016, 21:22
I thought it used to be that way years ago for this very reason.

But I was outta the game for almost 5 years, so I might have missed something.

brutal
11-29-2016, 21:47
Not that I disagree. However, while I could be wrong, I believe the mods have access to every edit if need be.

CS1983
11-29-2016, 22:55
Would be nice, particularly when trying to price items locally. I have a rifle I want to sell and Armslist is no help because prices seem to vary wildly depending on location.

theGinsue
11-29-2016, 23:02
While most, if not all, of the staff would agree with this desire, we're left wondering how to enforce such a thing and what penalty would be appropriate for a violation.

While the staff encourages folks to leave their sale/trade threads intact and prevent members from deleting the threads themselves, since I've been a moderator we've never had a hard and fast requirement/rule to leave the contents intact. Then again, this could always change.

Irving
11-29-2016, 23:03
Not that I disagree. However, while I could be wrong, I believe the mods have access to every edit if need be.

That's not my experience with being a mod.

Erni
11-29-2016, 23:15
It would be a great resource.

newracer
11-29-2016, 23:43
You wouldn't have to enforce anything, just make it so the posts cannot be edited.


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Great-Kazoo
11-30-2016, 00:00
While most, if not all, of the staff would agree with this desire, we're left wondering how to enforce such a thing and what penalty would be appropriate for a violation.

While the staff encourages folks to leave their sale/trade threads intact and prevent members from deleting the threads themselves, since I've been a moderator we've never had a hard and fast requirement/rule to leave the contents intact. Then again, this could always change.


. Put a new Sticky in the TP section. Asking all sellers to please keep the item sold in view with "ASKING" price till buyer receives it. Once received the buyer contacts mods via the ICON directly to the RIGHT> OF Blog this Post. Informing them item was received, no issues please close thread. Thread gets deleted.




You wouldn't have to enforce anything, just make it so the posts cannot be edited.


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The problem I see (wait didn't i start this thread?) Is .. If you browse the TP section the seller of an item Has (In say 50%) of items listed post Mods Please close thread. INSTEAD of CLICKING THE ICON to the RIGHT> of Blog this Post.
Which if those who rely on the mods to do the work the seller should have done . By clicking on the Icon> which says REPORT THIS POST the mods have a heads up item is SOLD and can Delete it. Instead of putting extra work load on the MODS to do a monthly or Bi-Monthly clean up of th eTP section.

Something IIRC was already asked by the Mods for all sellers to do once their item was sold. Some time back

Great-Kazoo
11-30-2016, 00:14
Found It

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/33477-RULES-Must-Read-and-acknowledge-BEFORE-posting-in-the-Trading-Post

To prevent fraud, only moderators can delete threads in the Trading Post. If your item has sold or is otherwise no longer available, PM a moderator and they will update your thread's title with the reason and close the thread. Or better yet, use the report a post functionality. This is the Icon on the bottom of the post towards the left, that looks like a triangle with an exclamation mark in it.

newracer
11-30-2016, 09:14
I think it would be nice if they left all the details and the post was kept for a year.

Great-Kazoo
11-30-2016, 09:41
I think it would be nice if they left all the details and the post was kept for a year.

They get archived after 30-60 days. The market will probably be stagnant for some time with trump being elected. One can see the movement, or lack of by how many guns are BTT more than marked SPF

Hummer
11-30-2016, 10:27
I have yet to see a reason why advertised selling prices are removed after a sale. Who does that benefit?

ray1970
11-30-2016, 12:51
I miss the days when I could delete my entire post after something I had listed sold.

I figure once the item has moved it really doesn't benefit anyone by still being there.

If you want to know what your stuff might be worth just look at prices on new ones and deduct from there because yours is used and maybe deduct a little more if it's well used. Or look at items that are currently available and if they haven't moved in a while then whatever price they have them listed at is probably too high.

J
11-30-2016, 16:15
Not that I disagree. However, while I could be wrong, I believe the mods have access to every edit if need be.

This is correct. We can see every edit and history for every post.

Irving is wrong [Coffee]

thedave1164
11-30-2016, 18:09
I agree with the kazoo

Mazin
11-30-2016, 23:22
. The problem I see (wait didn't i start this thread?) Is .. If you browse the TP section the seller of an item Has (In say 50%) of items listed post Mods Please close thread. INSTEAD of CLICKING THE ICON to the RIGHT> of Blog this Post.
Which if those who rely on the mods to do the work the seller should have done . By clicking on the Icon> which says REPORT THIS POST the mods have a heads up item is SOLD and can Delete it. Instead of putting extra work load on the MODS to do a monthly or Bi-Monthly clean up of th TP section.

Something IIRC was already asked by the Mods for all sellers to do once their item was sold. Some time back


This for the win /thread.

If every seller would use that "!" Icon we would have things update almost in real time with as much as the staff is online.

I read that the suggestion was made that we make the TP un editable once the member post his item for sale, Nice in theory but do you know how much more work would it entail for the staff because of typos or drops in Pricing? Yea don't want to even imagine that. Hell on most of my ads I still editors them about 5-6 times after I have posted.

kidicarus13
11-30-2016, 23:39
I vote against it just like I did the last election.

1.) Listed price may have little relevance to actual sold price.

2.) Just another way for gov't agencies to have access to historical firearm data when the next (D) gets elected and gun control is a hot topic again.

Great-Kazoo
12-01-2016, 00:22
I vote against it just like I did the last election.



2.) Just another way for gov't agencies to have access to historical firearm data when the next (D) gets elected and gun control is a hot topic again.

[ROFL3]

But that's a whole nother topic we can debate in something other than this thread ..

CS1983
12-01-2016, 07:32
I vote against it just like I did the last election.

1.) Listed price may have little relevance to actual sold price.

2.) Just another way for gov't agencies to have access to historical firearm data when the next (D) gets elected and gun control is a hot topic again.

1) True, but it starts a baseline and then one can move it down as Ray said. It establishes the local market. Also, if someone lists X for $Y and it goes in 20 minutes, one might realize its local value is higher than they thought (though the outlying factor could be the buyer is stupid, really wanted that item, etc.).

2) Do you think they don't already know this? Unless one is doing (illegal) FTF sales that data is available if they want it.

Great-Kazoo
12-01-2016, 09:43
1)
2) Do you think they don't already know this? Unless one is doing (illegal) FTF sales that data is available if they want it.
OOHHH That gun forum data base is the real threat to liberty [Beer]

With that i'm going to ask the mods (clicking on the report icon) to lock the thread. Anyone can (GASP) access it so it will still be in members minds.