odd ballistic question for the experts.

[colorider]

Say a 14-17gr 22 cal projectile is being flung through the air at around 950 fps at a target that is approx 25yds away.
Is this projectile going to dispatch a small coyote if it gets the projectile right in the grape? For science of course. I would never shoot at a coyote that may or may not have put a nice hole in my beagles neck last night.

[crashdown]

I'm no expert, but a guy with same name as me (since we are speaking hypothetically) has had pretty good success on similar sized critters with a 9 grain .177 caliber projectile traveling just a bit faster, and obviously very well placed shots.
I.... I mean "he" remembers one shot at about 25 yards right between the eyes that split the skull open.
That guy now uses Colibri .22 long rifle rounds as they are about as quiet.

[colorider]

Very good information. this 22 cal projectile flinger shoots dime sized groups. I will enter this data into the program and post results. Lol.

[BladesNBarrels]

Say a 14-17gr 22 cal projectile is being flung through the air at around 950 fps at a target that is approx 25yds away.
Is this projectile going to dispatch a small coyote if it gets the projectile right in the grape? For science of course. I would never shoot at a coyote that may or may not have put a nice hole in my beagles neck last night.

Heck of a way to perform a vasectomy.

[Great-Kazoo]

Heck of a way to perform a vasectomy.

The Grape is his melon. Or in laymens terms skull / head.

I wonder what demand there is (hypotheticaly) for bolt action suppressed gun owners , when a vermin becomes a threat to people or small livestock in more "urban areas". How much would one be willing to donate for fuel and ammo, inquiring minds want to know. AND operators are standing by.

Not that I or anyone on this forum INCLUDING MODERATORS condone or encourage such ponderings.

[Irving]

Dime sized groups ought to be able knock out individual teeth.

[davsel]

Ear hole, eye hole, or base of the skull.
+1 for the Colibri .22 long rifle - heavier round

[Zundfolge]

I wonder what demand there is (hypotheticaly) for bolt action suppressed gun owners , when a vermin becomes a threat to people or small livestock in more "urban areas". How much would one be willing to donate for fuel and ammo, inquiring minds want to know. AND operators are standing by.

Not that I or anyone on this forum INCLUDING MODERATORS condone or encourage such ponderings.
Based on the projectile weight, my guess is this is going to be a compressed air driven device and not a burning powder one ... although I don't think that changes things a whole lot from a legal standpoint.

That said this question has been addressed on the Field & Stream site.
http://www.fieldandstream.com/answers/hunting/can-a-pellet-gun-kill-a-coyote

[colorider]

Legal is not an issue as this is for science and not killing animals in a residential area. Strictly penetration and fpe testing. Lighter projectile is needed for pass through safety. At the target and what is beyond.

[earplug]

I used to shoot center fire pistols in my basement rental while living in Trinidad CO. Strictly academic study.
Did the same thing in a garage in Omaha NE.
Always kept the round count to less then three in a hour. Never had any problem.
Couldn't stuff enough powder in the case to blow a 32 ACP Savage pistol up with a 190 grain rifle bullet.
If a 200 grain 44SPL fragments in a box of stacked newspaper from a Charter Bulldog, re check your load.
If your worried about pass through you need a temporary backstop.

[Great-Kazoo]

Legal is not an issue as this is for science and not killing animals in a residential area. Strictly penetration and fpe testing. Lighter projectile is needed for pass through safety. At the target and what is beyond.

Discharging a firearm is not legal, BB , air & pellet guns included inside city limits.
A 22 Subsonic lead HP will hit and stay in the test subject

[Irving]

Discharging a firearm is not legal, BB , air & pellet guns included inside city limits.
A 22 Subsonic lead HP will hit and stay in the test subject

Sometimes.

[MarkCO]

The threshold to penetrate human skin (nominally) by a small non-expanding projectile is about 230fps. The threshold to penetrate elk skin is about 350fps. The threshold to penetrate a goose breast is about 390fps. Thin skinned reptiles and rodents can drop under 200fps. Those are just the amounts required to penetrate and the projectile may stay in the underlying tissue, or pop out. To penetrate elk skin, 1/2" of fatty flesh, and fracture a rib took 510fps. When you look at energy, 10 ft-lbs of energy is considered the minimum to kill a small rodent with a head shot.

That might be useful for your academic inquiry.

fps = feet/second

[earplug]

A wounded dog like critter can make more noise then a lethal shot.

[CS1983]

Embrace the coyote. Love the coyote. Desire the coyote be your new best friend. He'll then go away and leave, like every other dream, because such things are against the nature of the coyote.

[Great-Kazoo]

Embrace the coyote. Love the coyote. Desire the coyote be your new best friend. He'll then go away and leave, like every other dream, because such things are against the nature of the coyote.

Tigers Milk !

[Rumline]

I love coyotes....they git rid of all the obnoxious "outdoor" cats that crap in my yard.

[MarkCO]

foxtrot, CB Caps have a MV of about 720 fps. There are several CB, and low powered 22 shorts in various forms. 680 fps is about the lowest MV and some go to about 800 fps with 15 to 30 grain projectiles. Those are all well above the thresholds I stated.