Like 7 antelope and 2 deer shot and left to rot.
Speaking of crimes that really could use some much more medieval punishments.
http://www.9news.com/news/crime/11-big-game-animals-poached-reward-offered/362412954
KIT CARSON COUNTY - Colorado Parks and Wildlife officials are asking for the public's help in solving a disturbing poaching case that occurred in the southwest corner of Kit Carson County.
Eleven big game animal were short over a two-night period in November. The nine antelope and two white-tail deer were shot and left to rot south of the town of Seibert according to Colorado Parks and Wildlife.
A $5000 reward is being offered to anyone that can provide information that leads to a conviction in this case.
"Any information related to this incident provided by the public could be the key to this case," said local Wildlife Officer, Aaron Berscheid. "Whomever is responsible for this terrible act, stole the state's wildlife from the ethical and responsible sportsmen and women, as well as the citizens of Colorado."
Anyone with information are asked to contact District Wildlife Officer Berscheid at (719) 349-1246.
If you wish to remain anonymous, you can report your information through the Operation Game Thief hotline: 1(877) COLO-OGT (265-6648).
Copyright 2016 KUSA
Bastards. Hangin's too good fer 'em. No doubt poachers that got spooked..
I have a whitetail tag for 105, I just hope I actually SEE some. Friggin' mulies were fairly dancing around the other day, taunting me. It's like they knew I only have a whitetail tag.
No doubt poachers that got spooked..
11 times? Seems more likely that they're lazy "hunters" that just want to get a kill, and that's it for them. Just reactive target practice.
Zundfolge
12-03-2016, 23:36
Why do people do this?
It makes sense to me if you didn't have a license but you killed the animal and processed it yourself, but just to shoot it and let it rot? You're risking being able to legally hunt again just for one dumbass shot?
I guess if there was a class of people actually too dumb to be allowed to own guns, this would be it.
Colorado Osprey
12-04-2016, 07:20
Bastards. Hangin's too good fer 'em. No doubt poachers that got spooked...
Its been going on for quite some time. I hunted out there for pronghorn about 10 years ago and the pronghorn start to run if you stop a truck within a mile of them.
Out there the locals refer to pronghorn as prairie maggots and see them as crop destroyers and leaches of their grazing land. I'd bet most of the locals around Seibert even know or could guess who is responsible. Seibert is not a very big town.
Why do people do this?
It makes sense to me if you didn't have a license but you killed the animal and processed it yourself, but just to shoot it and let it rot? You're risking being able to legally hunt again just for one dumbass shot?
I guess if there was a class of people actually too dumb to be allowed to own guns, this would be it.
In his "Confessions", St. Augustine relays a story from his pre-Catholic youth when he and some friends trespassed and stole a bunch of unripened pears from a tree. They did not do this thing due to hunger, or desire for the pears themselves (being unripe, and therefore undesirable), but the lust of evildoing.
He explains:
Theft is punished by Thy law, O Lord, and the law written in the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not. For what thief will abide a thief? not even a rich thief, one stealing through want. Yet I lusted to thieve, and did it, compelled by no hunger, nor poverty, but through a cloyedness of well-doing, and a pamperedness of iniquity. For I stole that, of which I had enough, and much better. Nor cared I to enjoy what I stole, but joyed in the theft and sin itself. A pear tree there was near our vineyard, laden with fruit, tempting neither for colour nor taste. To shake and rob this, some lewd young fellows of us went, late one night (having according to our pestilent custom prolonged our sports in the streets till then), and took huge loads, not for our eating, but to fling to the very hogs, having only tasted them. And this, but to do what we liked only, because it was misliked. Behold my heart, O God, behold my heart, which Thou hadst pity upon in the bottom of the bottomless pit. Now, behold, let my heart tell Thee what it sought there, that I should be gratuitously evil, having no temptation to ill, but the ill itself. It was foul, and I loved it; I loved to perish, I loved mine own fault, not that for which I was faulty, but my fault itself. Foul soul, falling from Thy firmament to utter destruction; not seeking aught through the shame, but the shame itself!
...
When, then, we ask why a crime was done, we believe it not, unless it appear that there might have been some desire of obtaining some of those which we called lower goods, or a fear of losing them. For they are beautiful and comely; although compared with those higher and beatific goods, they be abject and low. A man hath murdered another; why? he loved his wife or his estate; or would rob for his own livelihood; or feared to lose some such things by him; or, wronged, was on fire to be revenged. Would any commit murder upon no cause, delighted simply in murdering? who would believe it? for as for that furious and savage man, of whom it is said that he was gratuitously evil and cruel, yet is the cause assigned; "lest" (saith he) "through idleness hand or heart should grow inactive." And to what end? that, through that practice of guilt, he might, having taken the city, attain to honours, empire, riches, and be freed from fear of the laws, and his embarrassments from domestic needs, and consciousness of villainies. So then, not even Catiline himself loved his own villainies, but something else, for whose sake he did them.
http://www.sacred-texts.com/chr/augconf/aug02.htm
Translation: Some people do evil, not for the good they see it might bring them (such as poaching due to a real hunger and need), but in this case, simply to kill something, to destroy nature; in order to rise above that to which they are subject, and yet lords over (for true power and authority is within a set of boundaries -- thus subjecting true, good rulers in a complementary manner to their own subjects' subjection to their authority, cf. Pope Leo XIII's Diuturnum: On The Original of Civil Power (http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Leo13/l13civ.htm). Specifically, #15 and 16).
We see this perfectly laid out in Fight Club:
What Tyler says about the crap and the slaves of history, that's how I felt. I wanted to destroy something beautiful I'd never have. Burn the Amazon rain forests. Pump chlorofluorocarbons straight up to gobble the ozone. Open the dump valves on supertankers and uncap offshore oil wells. I wanted to kill all the fish I couldn't afford to eat, and smother the French beaches I'd never see. I wanted the whole world to hit bottom. Pounding that kid, I really wanted to put a bullet between the eyes of every endangered panda that wouldn't screw to save its species and every whale or dolphin that gave up and ran itself aground.
Don't think of this as extinction. Think of this as downsizing.
For thousands of years, human beings had screwed up and trashed and crapped on this planet, and now history expected me to clean up after everyone. I have to wash out and flatten my soup cans. And account for every drop of used motor oil.
And I have to foot the bill for nuclear waste and buried gasoline tanks and landfilled toxic sludge dumped a generation before I was born.
I wanted to breathe smoke.
I wanted to burn the Louvre (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louvre). I'd do the Elgin Marbles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elgin_Marbles) with a sledgehammer and wipe my ass with the Mona Lisa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mona_Lisa). This is my world, now.
This is my world, my world, and those ancient people are dead.
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Fight_Club_(novel)
It was best expressed by the Prophet Isaiah, in chapter 14, who relaying the fall of Lucifer wrote,
[12] How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations? [13] And thou saidst in thy heart: I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will sit in the mountain of the covenant, in the sides of the north. [14] I will ascend above the height of the clouds, I will be like the most High. [15] But yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, into the depth of the pit.
Whose followers twist the very words of St. Augustine, who did not say "Do what thou wilt and harm none" but "Love, and do what thou wilt"; the former an expression of boundaries unfound, leading to chaos and wreckage, of which he is the father; the latter an expression of a boundary, love (caritas, in Latin -- a love which wills the good of another, not a mere emotion), which then informs all other actions.
Hunters and poachers are not one in the same. A hunter does things the legal way and is most likely a stand up citizen in every other way, poachers are criminals and should not ever be considered hunters. They have no regard of law and most likely break many other laws of the land from day to day with no regard of impact on anything or anyone around them. Poachers should get very high punishment but rarely get much more than a slap on the wrist.
And as was mentioned earlier, many farmers and ranchers don't see antelope as much more than a nuisance and this incident probably doesn't bring a tear to their eye.
I hope the scumbag/s get caught, but I'll be a bit surprised if they do.
encorehunter
12-04-2016, 10:27
I happen to know of a few farmers and ranchers who look at antelope and deer as a savior as well. Selling hunts have been able to keep their ranches operating for the last few years of drought.
I hope they hang the poachers. What a waste of resources.
Zundfolge
12-04-2016, 11:28
CavSct1983, that was a much more thought out answer than we deserved ... but thanks.
As Voltaire said "Strong minds discuss ideas, mediocre minds discuss events and weak minds discuss people" (made the mistake of sharing that quote with my wife once :p )
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