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Aloha_Shooter
12-12-2016, 11:10
Looking at one of his recent blog entries where he talks about Trump and economic optimism and then goes on to talk about visual persuasion.
Trump, the Master Persuader, is rewiring our brains in real time – while we are watching him do it. He wants us to be optimistic about the economy, so he finds the right buttons (Ford, Carrier, Boeing) and he pushes them. He looks for situations that have simplicity and a visual element. It is easy for people to imagine a Ford automobile, a Carrier air conditioner, a factory, a worker, an airplane, and Mexico. Every element of these stories is visual. That’s not an accident. That is technique.
Then he relates this to climate change/science:
The simple, visual persuasion favors the climate alarmists. They can point to rising seas, super hurricanes, and droughts. We can imagine all of that stuff and it scares us. Fear plus a visual element make for the strongest persuasion.
If you think many people believe in climate science predictions because of the science and the facts, you don’t know anything about human beings. We just observed an election in which facts and policies barely mattered at all. What matters is how we feel. Climate change is the same situation. All of the natural elements of persuasion are on one side. We can visualize bad weather and it scares us. The other side has nothing, persuasion-wise.
Prediction: By the end of Trump’s term it will be considered common knowledge that we need to be aggressive in green energy for a variety of reasons, but the public will not trust the climate model predictions. We’ll get to a greener world for reasons of economics and strategy. We’ll never really know if we solved climate change problems at the same time.
And do you know what gets us to that greener world faster?
Answer: A strong economy.
You have never been safer.
He makes a lot of good points but the part I really like is his closer:
You might like my book (http://t.umblr.com/redirect?z=http%3A%2F%2Famzn.to%2F1oTGu8x&t=Y2RmYjE0ODM3MTFhZWE4NTk2Njc5OTIxMTFjZGExZmY4NTEz MTI1ZCx2bURUWENCRA%3D%3D&b=t%3ATA_nNgSP4kCXBxItG5afUg&m=1) because of the strong visual persuasion I am using.
http://68.media.tumblr.com/34c19242120fb61ed2e3e5b4c1ddb81a/tumblr_inline_ohxf5ftuVr1t63ajm_500.jpg
[Alrigh]
Gotta admit, the man is consistent!
Gotta admit, the man is consistent!
A liberal 'til the day his accepted ideology kills him.
Zundfolge
12-12-2016, 20:29
The ironic thing about climate change is that if we do nothing and the world gets more CO2 and gets warmer it'll also get greener. Life thrives on warmth and dies from the cold.
If we do what the climate alarmists want us to do (and magically it would do what they say it would do, which it won't) the earth would actually get browner.
What will be annoying is if we do what the climate alarmists want us to do its not going to change a darn thing (since man caused CO2 is not causing increases in temperature) then they're going to think they fixed the problem when all they'll do is make most of us poorer and kill millions in the third world.
What's annoying to me is that consensus science makes radical flip flops in my lifetime, yet I am supposed to trust the scientists with liveliehoods built on climate hysteria or I am somehow defective.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2009/12/scientists-considered-pouring-soot-over-the-arctic-in-the-1970s-to-help-melt-the-ice-in-order-to-prevent-another-ice-age.html
On April 28, 1975, Newsweek wrote an article stating:
Climatologists are pessimistic that political leaders will take any positive action to compensate for the climatic change, or even to allay its effects. They concede that some of the more spectacular solutions proposed, such as melting the Arctic ice cap by covering it with black soot or diverting arctic rivers, might create problems far greater than those they solve. But the scientists see few signs that government leaders anywhere are even prepared to take the simple measures of stockpiling food or of introducing the variables of climatic uncertainty into economic projections of future food supplies. The longer the planners delay, the more difficult will they find it to cope with climatic change once the results become grim reality.
Why were scientists considering melting the arctic ice cap?
Because they were worried about a new ice age.
And guess what the solar cycle is saying? Consensus science might be wrong again!
Scott Adams has the same view of green energy as I do. I LIKE green energy. I WANT to use green energy. However, being a paladin of the environment is not the first of my reasons for liking green energy.
People are really dumb on the extremes of both sides of this debate, but the deniers will always come across as the dumber of the two (extremes).
Aloha_Shooter
12-12-2016, 21:27
I like the idea of not being dependent on the Arabs or Russia for oil and have been a fan of taking advantage of solar and geothermal energy for a long time -- but for strategic and economic reasons. The pseudo-science behind "carbon" hysteria is patently annoying to me as an engineer and physics student. Having said that, this post was more about Adams' observation that Trump is exercising good visual persuasion ...
Firehaus
12-12-2016, 21:36
The ironic thing about climate change is that if we do nothing and the world gets more CO2 and gets warmer it'll also get greener. Life thrives on warmth and dies from the cold.
If we do what the climate alarmists want us to do (and magically it would do what they say it would do, which it won't) the earth would actually get browner.
What will be annoying is if we do what the climate alarmists want us to do its not going to change a darn thing (since man caused CO2 is not causing increases in temperature) then they're going to think they fixed the problem when all they'll do is make most of us poorer and kill millions in the third world.
I always find it interesting that the climate change folks says more CO2 is the enemy, but I never see any mention of curbing Amazon rain forest deforestation as one of the solutions. In fact, I don't here anything about the deforestation as a possible cause. No money in saving the rain forest.
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Aloha_Shooter
12-12-2016, 21:57
I always find it interesting that the climate change folks says more CO2 is the enemy, but I never see any mention of curbing Amazon rain forest deforestation as one of the solutions. In fact, I don't here anything about the deforestation as a possible cause. No money in saving the rain forest.
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They wouldn't be able to get their Fair Trade Organic coffee and chocolate as cheaply if they helped protect the rain forest ...
I like the idea of not being dependent on the Arabs or Russia for oil and have been a fan of taking advantage of solar and geothermal energy for a long time -- but for strategic and economic reasons. The pseudo-science behind "carbon" hysteria is patently annoying to me as an engineer and physics student. Having said that, this post was more about Adams' observation that Trump is exercising good visual persuasion ...
Are we really dependent on Saudi and Russian oil, though?
https://www.eia.gov/energy_in_brief/article/foreign_oil_dependence.cfm
As I understand it, we're sitting on an ocean of oil -- largely trapped in shale. I'd be interested in knowing our actual dependence vs our simple importation, along with what it would take to completely go off all foreign oil and tell OPEC to pound sand (of which they have plenty).
Less foreign oil for us means more oil for everyone else. Use up foreign oil while we perfect renewable resources. Then implement renewable resources while sitting on largely untapped oil reserves.
Zundfolge
12-12-2016, 22:25
What's annoying to me is ...consensus science
You could have stopped there.
Consensus isn't science. Skepticism is science.
GilpinGuy
12-12-2016, 22:25
The ironic thing about climate change is that if we do nothing and the world gets more CO2 and gets warmer it'll also get greener. Life thrives on warmth and dies from the cold.
If we do what the climate alarmists want us to do (and magically it would do what they say it would do, which it won't) the earth would actually get browner.
What will be annoying is if we do what the climate alarmists want us to do its not going to change a darn thing (since man caused CO2 is not causing increases in temperature) then they're going to think they fixed the problem when all they'll do is make most of us poorer and kill millions in the third world.
If the earth is warming (it's not), growing seasons would be longer and we would produce more food. Less fossil fuel would be burned and fewer trees cut down to heat homes. There would be fewer deaths from car accidents from icy, snowy roads. Fewer poor people would die from exposure to the cold. And New York City would be under water. Win-win-win-win-win, but you never hear about that. Too "positive". Only bad shit in the media.
buffalobo
12-12-2016, 22:37
Less foreign oil for us means more oil for everyone else. Use up foreign oil while we perfect renewable resources. Then implement renewable resources while sitting on largely untapped oil reserves.
Yes.
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buffalobo
12-12-2016, 22:40
Global man made climate change is not about science or climate, it is about population control.
Those who believe in man made climate change are text book "useful idiots".
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You could have stopped there.
Consensus isn't science. Skepticism is science.
Well put!
Saw a bit on this in a car magazine. This should be more mainstream than it is. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a23417/convert-co2-into-ethanol/
You could have stopped there.
Consensus isn't science. Skepticism is science.
Well put!
True!!
Consensus stops research, skepticism drives research.
Saw a bit on this in a car magazine. This should be more mainstream than it is. http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/green-tech/a23417/convert-co2-into-ethanol/
OTHER ALCOHOL ISSUESAlcohol is corrosive and can degrade plastic, rubber or even metal parts in the fuel system that weren't engineered to use alcohol-bearing fuel. Consequently, that antique Evinrude outboard or '60s lawn tractor you bought at the swap meet might need some upgrading to stay together on today's gas. That means corrosion-resistant tanks, alcohol-tolerant rubber lines, seals and fuel-pump diaphragms, and plastic fuel-system parts that won't swell up in the presence of alcohol. Vintage boats with internal fiberglass tanks often have issues with the coating inside the tank failing, sometimes requiring massive structural modifications. Highly tuned two-stroke engines will run leaner (and consequently hotter) on the lower Btu/gallon alcohol mix, potentially leading to melted pistons and scuffed cylinder walls. Alcohol will also scour varnish and deposits out of the fuel system that have remained in place for years, which will eventually wind up in the filter or main jet, choking off the engine's fuel supply. Worse yet, the alcohol itself oxidizes in the tank and produces a tenacious brown glop that's far more damaging to fuel systems than the varnish we're used to seeing in pure petroleum fuels. In warmer weather, you can see varnish starting to form within a month of dispensing fresh fuel into a vehicle tank or storage can.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a6244/e15-gasoline-damage-engine/
http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/hybrid-electric/a6244/e15-gasoline-damage-engine/
There's a reason I now only use 91 oct w/ no ethanol in my bikes.
BushMasterBoy
12-13-2016, 09:20
Would it burn a hole in a piston in a 1974 Yamaha Enduro? It looked like an ice pick had gouged a hole in the crown!
You could have stopped there.
Consensus isn't science. Skepticism is science.
For.The.Win.
Once you start calling something settled science and try to punish dissenters, you have a simple-minded religion.
At that is exactly what algore and all of his believers are pushing, a religion.
Zundfolge
12-13-2016, 15:42
The argument I always like to raise in response to "co2 climate change".
This has been the response I've started giving to people of good will that bring up CO2 and climate change. (Yes there are some people willing to listen ... the AGW cultists are beyond help)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-nsU_DaIZE
If global warming means less snow to shovel and more shorts and t-shirt weather, I say bring it on.
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