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Hannu
09-23-2009, 07:59
I put this here, if someone is interested in European hunting things. If this violates forum rules, please remove this post.

I ended my personal hunting season 2009 in Finland yesterday.
I was thinking to go home. I already started to put scope cover back on, when I saw him started running 50-60 yards away.
I had my fingers touching the scope cover and my rifle was still loaded, so I was able to make the shot before he disappeared :)

Result is a nice roebuck, age propably 2-3 years.

Firearm; Steyr SSG .308 T + Zeiss Diavari 6-24x56
Ammo used; handload with Hornady 150gr Interbond and almost full can of BL-C(2).

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/981/p9226129rajattu.jpg (http://img6.imageshack.us/i/p9226129rajattu.jpg/)

10x
09-23-2009, 10:55
Good for you!
That looks like a small target while running for a 6-24 scope.

Irving
09-23-2009, 11:05
When you move here, and come to a shoot with us, are we supposed to look for the guy with a gray square taped to his face? ;)

Hannu
09-23-2009, 17:24
Yes, you will know it is me because of my grey face or grey face mask :D
Sorry about that, but I have a few reasons why I do not want to present my face on a public forum.

That rifle and scope are mainly for shooting range and for stalking game.
Here in Finland we shoot most our whitetails and roe deers after sunset - big scope with good glass and illuminated reticle are needed then.

My big game rifle and IPSC Open AR-15 have 1-6x scopes with illuminated reticles for close and medium close range work :

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/8986/p9171772pieni.jpg (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/p9171772pieni.jpg/)

Clearly the best low power scopes on the market, by the way.

Irving
09-23-2009, 17:59
It's okay, just giving you crap.

DOC
09-23-2009, 19:30
What are the gun laws like in your land?

theGinsue
09-23-2009, 22:37
Sorry about that, but I have a few reasons why I do not want to present my face on a public forum.

Its all good. I'm so damned ugly that it's usually someone else putting the grey boxes over my face in photos with me.


That's a nice roebuck. You should have been able to haul that out of the wilderness easily enough. I can't wait to see the pics of you with your first Colorado elk (and a grey box over your face[ROFL1])!

Hannu
09-30-2009, 13:08
What are the gun laws like in your land?

Well, they are very different :) Basicly, in Finland at this time, gun laws are quite reasonable. You need to register all firearms etc and you need to tell police what are you going to do with that gun.

However, our gun licenses are not really based on laws. In Finland, it is the local police who makes those decisions. They even decide, what kind of firearm you may use. For example, no AR-15 rifles for hunting purposes. You may use your AR-15 for hunting, but you need to get license for different reason.

Finnish Police has made their own directions about who they give a license and what kind of license. Those directions are not based on law, and they conflict with the law.
We have tried to fight that off for years, with bad results :(

We found a nice apartment in Gunbarrel. Now I just need to wait for 90 days and I can buy some firearms :)

They may take your license(s) off, if you (for example) have 3 traffic speeding tickets during 2 years. Except, if you are a policeman, then you can drink & work and you wil propably get no penalty ;)

Our parliament is right now processing our new gun law, which looks very bad :( I am afraid, our next gun law will be extremely bad :(

Well, what can you expect, if your presidents nickname is "Red" :( :(

DOC
09-30-2009, 13:52
Thanks. I don't want to say what I really think, but I wish you luck in your gun rights battle. I wish you strength and luck and I wish you fight them every step of the way and let no new law pass. You should give them hell for every inch (or metric) they want to take and nothing but love for every step they take back. That way they will see the best way to go is the only one to take.

Daniel_187
09-30-2009, 14:04
Well, they are very different :) Basicly, in Finland at this time, gun laws are quite reasonable. You need to register all firearms etc and you need to tell police what are you going to do with that gun.

However, our gun licenses are not really based on laws. In Finland, it is the local police who makes those decisions. They even decide, what kind of firearm you may use. For example, no AR-15 rifles for hunting purposes. You may use your AR-15 for hunting, but you need to get license for different reason.

Finnish Police has made their own directions about who they give a license and what kind of license. Those directions are not based on law, and they conflict with the law.
We have tried to fight that off for years, with bad results :(

We found a nice apartment in Gunbarrel. Now I just need to wait for 90 days and I can buy some firearms :)

They may take your license(s) off, if you (for example) have 3 traffic speeding tickets during 2 years. Except, if you are a policeman, then you can drink & work and you wil propably get no penalty ;)

Our parliament is right now processing our new gun law, which looks very bad :( I am afraid, our next gun law will be extremely bad :(

Well, what can you expect, if your presidents nickname is "Red" :( :(


Well hotdog neighbor, your right down the Street from me. small world, if you need help moving a sofa or something am cheap(12pack) Hit me up if you want and I know of a range you could use if you keep it on the DL

DOC
09-30-2009, 14:21
Well if your moving here you will like it better. It make you feel like your free or something. Leave your ideas about what is reasonable there. Please. Thanks.

Irving
09-30-2009, 14:27
Tell us when you move here, so we can get you a copy of the Constitution. We want you to understand our freedom the same way that we do.

theGinsue
09-30-2009, 16:19
Well, what can you expect, if your presidents nickname is "Red" :( :(

"Red", as in Socialist?

jackmode9316
09-30-2009, 16:23
or "Red" as in Communist?

bjl913
10-01-2009, 05:26
Tell us when you move here, so we can get you a copy of the Constitution. We want you to understand our freedom the same way that we do.

+1

Hannu
10-02-2009, 15:13
Well hotdog neighbor, your right down the Street from me. small world, if you need help moving a sofa or something am cheap(12pack) Hit me up if you want and I know of a range you could use if you keep it on the DL

Our sofa has already been moved, but you just earned your 12pack if you can point out a range which I could use :)


Tell us when you move here, so we can get you a copy of the Constitution. We want you to understand our freedom the same way that we do.

Interesting... We are now settling down in Gunbarrel. I think, after a week or two, we can start thinking also other things than furniture, buying a car etc. :)

Tarja "Red" Halonen as socialist and communist, both right. Unfortunately :(

Daniel_187
10-02-2009, 17:27
We can meet up by the King soopers and we can get some beer and we can talk about setting something up

Irving
10-02-2009, 17:30
Hey quick question. About how much usable meat would you get off an animal the size of the one in that first picture? For that matter, how big is an animal of that size?

Hannu
10-02-2009, 19:23
We can meet up by the King soopers and we can get some beer and we can talk about setting something up

That sounds good :D I already got used to local beer. BJ:s in Boulder has some really excellent beer.
This weekend, or next week ?

Weight of a roe deer is usually around 65 - 75 lbs. That one (male) weighed about 100 lbs, which is quite typical for healthy roebuck.

I once shot a roebuck and it weighed 123 lbs. I have never seen bigger than that, not even in Estonia.

Meat weight (roebuck in the picture) was some 25 pounds. Not very much :)

Daniel_187
10-05-2009, 17:29
PM sent

DOC
10-06-2009, 01:42
Weight of a roe deer is usually around 65 - 75 lbs. That one (male) weighed about 100 lbs, which is quite typical for healthy roebuck.

Meat weight (roebuck in the picture) was some 25 pounds. Not very much :)

That is a lot of waste.
Do you only take the choice cuts or what?

You should go elk hunting here ASAP. I think you will find you get a lot of meat even after dressing it. Enough for the family and a few BBQ's for friends on AR-15.com.[Beer]

theGinsue
10-06-2009, 22:10
I used to hunt sears as a kid - we left the roebucks alone.

(sorry, poor humor... for those that didn't get it, the name for Sears stores used to be "Sears, Roebuck, & Company". It's been a long day and I'm really tired. I'll do better tomorrow; I promise.)

DOC
10-07-2009, 01:50
I used to hunt sears as a kid - we left the roebucks alone.

(sorry, poor humor... for those that didn't get it, the name for Sears stores used to be "Sears, Roebuck, & Company". It's been a long day and I'm really tired. I'll do better tomorrow; I promise.)
I got it and I was thinking the same thing. But you did a much better job a delivery then I did.