Irving
01-17-2017, 00:13
I'm remodeling my house room by room, hoping to be done by this time next year. This now makes two rooms done out of 9ish other rooms. This is NOT a how-to thread because I'm just learning this stuff myself and the only advice I'd have to offer is just all the different mistakes I've made. Really, I'm just happy to be nearly done with this room. I was going to pull one over on you guys and say I knocked this out in about 8 hours total, but it took me so long that I can't even play that little joke. Let's get to the photos.
**A big thanks to Wulf202. I would text all the contractors I know the same question, and he was always the first, and usually the only one to respond to my questions. Thanks for all the tips along the way.
*Also a thanks to either Zetnik or TheGinsue. I can't remember which one of them forced some army issue knee and elbow pads on me. As soon as I got them home I thought "When am I ever going to use these?" But I have to say that between the framing, flooring, cutting, and trim work, they were the most valuable tool I had, right after the fancy compound miter saw I bought.
My wife pulled the nasty carpet out herself. The original floor in this house is so ugly, that my wife didn't believe it was flooring, and actually thought it was some kind of underlayment.
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This house has this bedroom, and the one on the other side of this wall sharing the closet space between the rooms. Each room had a closet half as long as this wall. Pretty standard for the 1950's, but very small by today's building standards. In addition to that, this room had the particularly stupid design where the bedroom door and closet door open into each other. You can see the line near the door handle from the closet door handle. Both doors had this line and if you opened the bedroom door while the closet door was open, they'd lock up with each other. Terrible design. The patch job shown, that I wasn't particularly happy with, is the only thing I didn't do myself.
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Now you've got the lay of the room.
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Remove the floor.
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Flood cut in anticipation of relocating electrical outside of closet.
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Frame up closet and run electrical. Careful of that gas line.
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Drywall on the closet. I really tried to take my time and do as good of a job as I could, but when I was done and it looked like I just finished riveting together the hull of a ship, I realized I probably used three times as many screws as I needed. I also decided to just keep that receptacle in the closet and add another on the outside.
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I did have a helper hang the door jamb.
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I've never really mudded drywall before except for the occasional wall patch (which always came out fantastic). This was quite the learning experience. I would constantly pendulum between "Hey, this is easy, I don't know what everyone complains about!" to "Sweet Jesus this looks like garbage!" I'm fortunate in that the original texture of my walls looks like someone got drunk with a trowel and went to town, so it was easy to match and any mistakes I've made just blended right in with the past 60 years of all the other home owners mistakes.
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For a while I had an issue where my dog had decided that she needed to be in the same room with me, as close to me as possible, at all times.
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She even laid down and got the mud tape wrapped around her face. Not once...
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But twice!
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**A big thanks to Wulf202. I would text all the contractors I know the same question, and he was always the first, and usually the only one to respond to my questions. Thanks for all the tips along the way.
*Also a thanks to either Zetnik or TheGinsue. I can't remember which one of them forced some army issue knee and elbow pads on me. As soon as I got them home I thought "When am I ever going to use these?" But I have to say that between the framing, flooring, cutting, and trim work, they were the most valuable tool I had, right after the fancy compound miter saw I bought.
My wife pulled the nasty carpet out herself. The original floor in this house is so ugly, that my wife didn't believe it was flooring, and actually thought it was some kind of underlayment.
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This house has this bedroom, and the one on the other side of this wall sharing the closet space between the rooms. Each room had a closet half as long as this wall. Pretty standard for the 1950's, but very small by today's building standards. In addition to that, this room had the particularly stupid design where the bedroom door and closet door open into each other. You can see the line near the door handle from the closet door handle. Both doors had this line and if you opened the bedroom door while the closet door was open, they'd lock up with each other. Terrible design. The patch job shown, that I wasn't particularly happy with, is the only thing I didn't do myself.
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Now you've got the lay of the room.
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Remove the floor.
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Flood cut in anticipation of relocating electrical outside of closet.
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Frame up closet and run electrical. Careful of that gas line.
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Drywall on the closet. I really tried to take my time and do as good of a job as I could, but when I was done and it looked like I just finished riveting together the hull of a ship, I realized I probably used three times as many screws as I needed. I also decided to just keep that receptacle in the closet and add another on the outside.
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I did have a helper hang the door jamb.
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I've never really mudded drywall before except for the occasional wall patch (which always came out fantastic). This was quite the learning experience. I would constantly pendulum between "Hey, this is easy, I don't know what everyone complains about!" to "Sweet Jesus this looks like garbage!" I'm fortunate in that the original texture of my walls looks like someone got drunk with a trowel and went to town, so it was easy to match and any mistakes I've made just blended right in with the past 60 years of all the other home owners mistakes.
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For a while I had an issue where my dog had decided that she needed to be in the same room with me, as close to me as possible, at all times.
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She even laid down and got the mud tape wrapped around her face. Not once...
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But twice!
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