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OneGuy67
01-17-2017, 15:38
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/17/us/politics/obama-commutes-bulk-of-chelsea-mannings-sentence.html?_r=0

00tec
01-17-2017, 15:38
https://www.yahoo.com/news/obama-commutes-sentence-intelligence-analyst-chelsea-manning-213151598.html

Setting free a fellow traitor.

Scanker19
01-17-2017, 15:39
Oh how...(eye twitch)... nice of him....(eye twitch)...

Martinjmpr
01-17-2017, 15:45
Bergdahl next?

BushMasterBoy
01-17-2017, 15:59
Snowden?

roberth
01-17-2017, 16:00
That Useless Mother Fucker.

Big E3
01-17-2017, 16:03
He had to do it, since Hilary did a similar thing and he can’t look like a hypocrite. I mean it’s just military secrets, and everybody he knows hates everything the military does.

JohnnyDrama
01-17-2017, 16:14
Like nobody saw that coming? One last jab at the military and support for gay/transgender rights all in one swell foop.

CS1983
01-17-2017, 16:17
Wonder if he will give up his stupid little gender dysphoria schtick now

JohnnyDrama
01-17-2017, 16:19
I'll bet he/she is back in the news fairly soon. Not for solving world hunger or anything even halfway great or even decent. Kind of like Rodney King....

Martinjmpr
01-17-2017, 16:23
Wonder if he will give up his stupid little gender dysphoria schtick now

And lose all the attention and goodwill he's gotten? Hell no. If anything he'll double down.

CS1983
01-17-2017, 16:26
And lose all the attention and goodwill he's gotten? Hell no. If anything he'll double down.

So what you're saying is he won't give up his schtick but will give up his stick?

Martinjmpr
01-17-2017, 16:31
So what you're saying is he won't give up his schtick but will give up his stick?

He'll be the Queen of every Pride Parade. Count on it.

thvigil11
01-17-2017, 16:37
So wikileaks is good or bad? I'm confused now. [facepalm]

buffalobo
01-17-2017, 17:36
Threads merged.

Great-Kazoo
01-17-2017, 18:25
So wikileaks is good or bad? I'm confused now. [facepalm]

Depends if you candidate lost .

One a side note one again Obama was the most transparent president in history. Unfortunately it took 8 years for America to see through him.

CS1983
01-17-2017, 18:40
So wikileaks is good or bad? I'm confused now. [facepalm]

Probably a little of both.

Aloha_Shooter
01-19-2017, 14:48
https://huwieler.net/2017/01/18/chelsea-manning-in-basic-combat-training/

Some excerpts:


Likely few-to-none would have predicted such an unassuming person would be at the center of so much controversy. That is, unless you met her when she first joined the Army and she started down a trajectory toward infamy. In hindsight, maybe it was obvious.

During this exercise, Manning’s problem wasn’t that she was too small or not strong enough. The problem was, she quit. As the rest of the platoon faced one way, gritting their teeth and baring it, whispering words of encouragement to each other, she stood at an about-face the opposite direction, and said she simply could not pick up her own bag.

In our comparison of memories over the years, fellow recruits in C Co. have confirmed for me: when the going got tough, Chelsea said, “I can’t.”

In 2013, I met a Senior, fellow Chinese Linguist at language training class at Fort Bragg, NC who told me he had known Manning in 2008 while they were both at Fort Huachuca, AZ for training. In that same Chinese language class, I spoke to another Senior linguist who told me he had met Manning in 2009 in Iraq as he was rotating out of the country, and Manning’s unit was rotating in. I don’t know what it means that you can trace half of Manning’s career in the Army based on which Chinese Linguist was closest to her at the time, but I do know that she’s in the background of nearly every career of every U.S. Army intelligence analyst active in the last decade. Her actions changed fundamental practices in the DoD. Manning altered not only the way we think about information security, authentication and confidentiality, but also about the grave damage posed by the insider threat.

These are the facts: Chelsea Manning was timid and small, but she certainly wasn’t the only one. There were dozens of recruits – male and female – in the last cycle of Charlie 82d that autumn who were under 5’4” and couldn’t have weighed more than 140lbs. Some were physically uncoordinated and seemingly had never spent a day outdoors in their entire lives. Others were natural athletes with a killer instinct that always seemed to put them on top, no matter what the challenge. Some had nothing to prove, and some had everything to prove. It wasn’t size, or stature, or speed, or strength, or even the ability to finish all the events that decided how high a recruit could hold her head in the community. That is a fact.

What is not accurate is the false and felonious image of the U.S. military on which the defense of her conduct has been, at its root, predicated: that somehow everyone in her formative years in the military was practically part of a tribe of 6’2”, overly-aggressive Alpha males pumping testosterone out their pores who ganged up on the smallest in the group and tore her apart out of hyper-machismo intolerance; that War is so brutish and nasty, that Warriors too must be. That is simply not accurate. Chelsea Manning wasn’t being picked on at the Shark Attack when the Drill Sergeants said she had to lift her own bag like everyone else, and she said she couldn’t. She wasn’t being picked on when those Soldiers tried to help motivate her to lift the Jerry Can over her head and even picked up their own and did the exercise again, with her, out of solidarity. And when she faked a choking fit in the middle of the Dining Facility, it wasn’t because someone else was tormenting her – she was tormenting herself.

In a social schema where the defense of the group becomes the perpetual rationale for why the group should even continue existing, Chelsea Manning either could not or would not sacrifice enough of herself to inspire loyalty among comrades.

CS1983
01-19-2017, 16:58
Calling that dude a turd would be an insult to fecal matter

theGinsue
01-19-2017, 20:06
But guys, Obama said he's commuting Mannings sentence because "he's a changed man". <jk>

cstone
01-19-2017, 20:42
But guys, Obama said he's commuting Mannings sentence because "he's a changed man". <jk>

He certainly isn't the man he was when he started his sentence. [LOL]

roberth
01-19-2017, 21:42
Has the gov't paid for his wangus clipping yet? If not, then the only light at the end of the tunnel is that he'll have to mutilate himself on his own dime.

Hope the bastard uses a chainsaw all the way up to his scrawny neck.

Skip
01-19-2017, 22:27
Hope the bastard uses a chainsaw all the way up to his scrawny neck.

I'd be willing to give him a spoon. And a bic so he could sterilize it first. Wouldn't want him to get an infection, that would be nasty.

Aloha_Shooter
01-20-2017, 07:49
Has the gov't paid for his wangus clipping yet? If not, then the only light at the end of the tunnel is that he'll have to mutilate himself on his own dime.

That's what I was thinking ... I thnk he was scheduled for surgery later this year or next year so at least those DoD healthcare dollars will be spent on people who have actually gotten hurt defending the country.

CS1983
01-20-2017, 07:51
Sounds like they should make it a requirement so he says, "I can't".

Aloha_Shooter
01-20-2017, 09:10
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/19/manning-to-reportedly-lose-transgender-benefits-with-dishonorable-discharge.html


Chelsea Manning, the transgender soldier who leaked classified documents to WikiLeaks, will reportedly lose her military health care benefits under the terms of her commutation.

The Army has been providing Manning with treatment for gender dysphoria, including hormone treatments, according to a report in Stars and Stripes.

“If Pvt. Manning is discharged with a dishonorable discharge, she will lose her entitlement to (military) benefits, including gender-transition care at medical treatment facilities,” an Army spokesman said.