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izzy
01-20-2017, 12:25
I fully support this program, the city of Denver is apparently giving vagrants a one way bus ticket to another city. I say we expand this program.

http://www.9news.com/news/local/next/city-of-denver-giving-homeless-people-one-way-bus-tickets-out-of-town/387284797

TFOGGER
01-20-2017, 12:26
Minneapolis did this to US a few years back. Payback is a bitch. [ROFL1]

Dave_L
01-20-2017, 12:30
I saw this article and the thing that stood out to me was this:


One of the homeless people who received a bus ticket is Austin Blitzer, 27, who documented his Greyhound ride to San Diego on Facebook. Days after arriving he wrote on Facebook that he was still homeless, riding around in a car with friends, smoking marijuana.

How does a homeless person have a facebook account that he updates regularly? To follow that up, how does he have friends with a car and weed but they won't help him? It really shows why people are so jaded to helping the homeless when you have people like this out there.

izzy
01-20-2017, 12:32
Mr. Blitzer seems to be a non contributor one way or the other. I'm glad he's as further away from where I live.

roberth
01-20-2017, 12:36
He made his own bed, he wants someone else to pay the rent.

MED
01-20-2017, 12:39
California is warmer; they would like California...give them a bus ticket and a bag of weed when they get on the bus.

crays
01-20-2017, 12:40
How does a homeless person have a facebook account that he updates regularly? Public Library/obama phone/free wifi and a cheap tablet/etc.

To follow that up, how does he have friends with a car and weed but they won't help him? What you consider friends, and what he considers friends, are not the same.

It really shows why people are so jaded to helping the homeless when you have people like this out there. Truth.

Lets just hope he stays in CA or further north.

ray1970
01-20-2017, 12:42
How does a homeless person have a facebook account that he updates regularly?

Probably keeps track of it on his cell phone. Duh. Everyone has their priorities.

ray1970
01-20-2017, 12:43
Crays beat me to it.

Skip
01-20-2017, 13:48
I saw this article and the thing that stood out to me was this:

How does a homeless person have a facebook account that he updates regularly? To follow that up, how does he have friends with a car and weed but they won't help him? It really shows why people are so jaded to helping the homeless when you have people like this out there.

I agree.

"Need" has been replaced with "want." These are choices and I'm tired of subsidizing them.

The ACA does the same thing with subsidies. "Could a person work?" and if so "how can help find them a job?" are questions that are seldom asked.

Jim B
01-20-2017, 14:50
I thought the OP was talking about this guy:

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/ap_16228136310156.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=575&ssl=1

brutal
01-20-2017, 15:44
Why limit it to vagrants?

ray1970
01-20-2017, 18:00
I thought the OP was talking about this guy:

https://espnfivethirtyeight.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/ap_16228136310156.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&w=575&ssl=1

For the win.

JohnnyDrama
01-20-2017, 18:14
One of the homeless people who received a bus ticket is Austin Blitzer, 27, who documented his Greyhound ride to San Diego on Facebook. Days after arriving he wrote on Facebook that he was still homeless, riding around in a car with friends, smoking marijuana.

He's in a better place now

T-Giv
01-21-2017, 19:25
Savage comment there Jim B! Love it.

Jer
01-21-2017, 22:37
Anyone else remember about a decade or so ago when the Mayor of San Diego put a few hundred homeless on flights to Hawaii? As I recall he lost his gig over that one and MAN are there a TON of homeless in Honolulu.

Jim B
01-21-2017, 23:16
Savage comment there Jim B! Love it.

Thanks!

Aloha_Shooter
01-22-2017, 08:43
Anyone else remember about a decade or so ago when the Mayor of San Diego put a few hundred homeless on flights to Hawaii? As I recall he lost his gig over that one and MAN are there a TON of homeless in Honolulu.

I don't remember that specific event but Hawaii has been getting CA's homeless for years. I believe it was an issue during Gov Moonbeam's first turn ...

CS1983
01-22-2017, 09:31
Aren't they worried Hawaii might tip over or something?

Skip
01-22-2017, 09:31
I don't remember that specific event but Hawaii has been getting CA's homeless for years. I believe it was an issue during Gov Moonbeam's first turn ...

Sheer curiosity here, but how does that happen? A ticket to Honolulu from LAX is spendy.

We were on Oahu last summer and noticed a huge homeless problem mostly around the airport and touristy areas. None to speak of on the big island though.

roberth
01-22-2017, 09:34
I don't remember that specific event but Hawaii has been getting CA's homeless for years. I believe it was an issue during Gov Moonbeam's first turn ...


Sheer curiosity here, but how does that happen? A ticket to Honolulu from LAX is spendy.

We were on Oahu last summer and noticed a huge homeless problem mostly around the airport and touristy areas. None to speak of on the big island though.

I was wondering the same thing. Do the airlines get a tax break for shlepping some homeless thing from LA to Hawaii?

def90
01-22-2017, 13:39
Minneapolis did this to US a few years back. Payback is a bitch. [ROFL1]

Minneapolis does it all the time.. Growing up there I remember seeing stories about it on the news every time the temperature dropped below zero. Rather than trying to find places for them to sleep they just gave them a one way ticket to just about anywhere they wanted to go.

Gman
01-22-2017, 14:28
Just take them on a cruise, drop them off in the Philippines and tell them it's Hawaii. [Coffee]

Aloha_Shooter
01-23-2017, 10:36
Sheer curiosity here, but how does that happen? A ticket to Honolulu from LAX is spendy.

It's not that expensive if you wait for the sales and even at full rate last-minute is far less than a month's welfare for vagrants. You'd probably have to talk to someone familiar with CA's government to find out how they managed it (assuming they'd even admit to it -- IIRC, CA denied it was an active state policy for some time -- in fact, I don't know that they ever admitted to it but it was curious how dozens of vagrants who couldn't seem to afford their next meal came up with cash for a plane ticket).

Homelessness has been a big issue back home for the past decade -- some of it comes form locals who just don't have the skills or education to earn what it takes to pay a mortgage there these days, some of it comes from people who migrate for the climate and welfare benefits. IIRC, Hawaii took some actions to reduce benefits until people had proved some level of residency but I've been away for years so don't know the current benefits situation. I do know my good-for-nothing cousin seems to have precise timing on when he needs to take a class or get a temp job to keep his benefits active.

Honolulu started taking steps to move the homeless out of Waikiki but of course the ACLU and various "sovereignty" groups fought them over that. One of the local groups is trying to get a legal process set up to build old-style grass shacks on state land -- definitely not modern code but safe enough and would address the locals who simply can't afford $800K for a 600-700 sq ft house and would actually go a long ways for the groups who want to get back to their old traditional roots.

CS1983
01-23-2017, 10:39
We should start sending people from Denver and Boulder to the Shangri-La of California. Not homeless necessarily, just folks.

Skip
01-23-2017, 12:09
It's not that expensive if you wait for the sales and even at full rate last-minute is far less than a month's welfare for vagrants. You'd probably have to talk to someone familiar with CA's government to find out how they managed it (assuming they'd even admit to it -- IIRC, CA denied it was an active state policy for some time -- in fact, I don't know that they ever admitted to it but it was curious how dozens of vagrants who couldn't seem to afford their next meal came up with cash for a plane ticket).

Homelessness has been a big issue back home for the past decade -- some of it comes form locals who just don't have the skills or education to earn what it takes to pay a mortgage there these days, some of it comes from people who migrate for the climate and welfare benefits. IIRC, Hawaii took some actions to reduce benefits until people had proved some level of residency but I've been away for years so don't know the current benefits situation. I do know my good-for-nothing cousin seems to have precise timing on when he needs to take a class or get a temp job to keep his benefits active.

Honolulu started taking steps to move the homeless out of Waikiki but of course the ACLU and various "sovereignty" groups fought them over that. One of the local groups is trying to get a legal process set up to build old-style grass shacks on state land -- definitely not modern code but safe enough and would address the locals who simply can't afford $800K for a 600-700 sq ft house and would actually go a long ways for the groups who want to get back to their old traditional roots.

So CA is merely doing the math on welfare vs. plate ticket and doesn't care that the homeless may be going to an area with an even higher cost of living. Okay, that makes sense. Messed up but makes sense.

It's strange that Libs would do each other like that and use the downtrodden as a weapon but doesn't really surprise me.

brutal
01-23-2017, 12:09
We should start sending people from Denver and Boulder to the Shangri-La of California. Not homeless necessarily, just folks.

Seems there should be a few from Aurora, Co Springs, and Pueblo too.

I'm just saying that every urban population center has these sorts of folks that we could export. Just look at the election (map) results.

CS1983
01-23-2017, 12:19
Seems there should be a few from Aurora, Co Springs, and Pueblo too.

I'm just saying that every urban population center has these sorts of folks that we could export. Just look at the election (map) results.

Indeed, but they're fewer and more far between. Denver and Boulder are a force of liberacion, comrade.

brutal
01-23-2017, 12:21
Indeed, but they're fewer and more far between. Denver and Boulder are a force of liberacion, comrade.

As long as my next door neighbor gets to go too. I'd like to see him retire to a warmer locale.

ray1970
01-23-2017, 13:39
As long as my next door neighbor gets to go too. I'd like to see him retire to a warmer locale.

Like hell?

colorider
01-23-2017, 13:42
As long as my next door neighbor gets to go too. I'd like to see him retire to a warmer locale.

One of my new neighbors can join them. They are from Utah though. Most unsocial hipster dingbats around. We have a very social culdesac and they are the turds of the bunch. They want nothing to do with socializing. Just hang out inside their home with their dog. Every once in a while they will give a forced wave. He does yard work in pink, white, or yellow skinny jeans,

Irving
01-23-2017, 13:52
I do yard work with a beer and a machete. Sometimes even with a shirt on. Neighbors still talk to me...

brutal
01-23-2017, 14:58
Like hell?

I wouldn't wish that upon anyone. He's not so bad that we're not cordial to each other, even a little friendly jabs now and again. Then again, I'm certain he voted for Killary and could have caused us all harm.

There's a funny conversation we had during the campaign cycle, but I can't supply details in a public forum as it would give away his surname, one also commonly used as both a noun and a verb.