Home Defense AR Safe

[mattiooo]

Anyone have experience with a good way to store an AR for home defense that is:

1) Kid Safe - Not just hidden (doesn't have to be hidden), but locked.
2) Quick Access in an Emergency.
3) Doesn't require major installation (cutting into the wall, etc - simple mounting and drilling is ok)

I've searched and seen many different things advertised, but would love to hear from anyone who actually uses them. Pros and cons, reality versus ad claims, etc.

[brutal]

One of the hidden shelf options that are flooding the market?

[earplug]

Kids are smarter then dogs. Might as well teach the kids about firearms and remove the mystery.

[Tim K]

Cachemystuff.com

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[00tec]

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I was wondering about your stuff the other day.

Staying tuned.

[rondog]

Cachemystuff.com

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Very nice! But I don't see anything on your site that gives the H/W/D dimensions of them, is it there and I'm just missing it?

[Kilyung]

I use this gun locker with the key around my neck 24/7.

http://www.gunsafes.com/Shared/Images/Product/SecureIt-Tactical-24-Rifle-Steel-Gun-Cabinet/2424.jpg

[Hoser]

Cachemystuff.com

My business. Will be up and shipping in two weeks or so.

Good stuff. I have a demo unit and am very happy.

[Irving]

I use this gun locker with the key around my neck 24/7.

http://www.gunsafes.com/Shared/Images/Product/SecureIt-Tactical-24-Rifle-Steel-Gun-Cabinet/2424.jpg


Can you provide info on where to get such a thing please?

[funkymonkey1111]

have you considered the under the bed route?

https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Vault-under-bed-safe/dp/B00CIDGA0G/?tag=ssafety-20

i've been looking for a small safe for upstairs for 1 or 2 guns only, but cannot find anything that small that's much more than a glorified stack-on.

something like this, but would like more security

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005FDIUPE/ref=asc_df_B005FDIUPE4796760/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B005FDIUPE&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167124607404&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4859194944388198658&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028744&hvtargid=pla-272348729222

Liberty doesn't have anything that small, nor does AMSEC nor Ft. Knox. I tried to get Sturdy to build one that small and they wouldn't, either.

about the smallest two i could find that seemed worth a crap was this AMSEC and Liberty, but both are much bigger than i'm looking for:

http://www.amsecusa.com/product/tf5517/

http://www.libertysafe.com/safe-centurion-safes-ps-23.html?tab=specs (http://www.amsecusa.com/product/tf5517/)

[Irving]

Why do you feel you need anything more than a glorified stack-on for only two guns?

[funkymonkey1111]

Why do you feel you need anything more than a glorified stack-on for only two guns?

That sorta begs the question. Perhaps they're expensive guns? Perhaps I want some semblance of deterrence and/or fire protection, also. But, I've wrestled with that very question.

but why wouldn't you want to provide the same level of protection for 1 or 2 home defense guns at the ready versus the rest of your collection?

[opie011]

have you considered the under the bed route?

https://www.amazon.com/Monster-Vault-under-bed-safe/dp/B00CIDGA0G/?tag=ssafety-20

i've been looking for a small safe for upstairs for 1 or 2 guns only, but cannot find anything that small that's much more than a glorified stack-on.

something like this, but would like more security

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B005FDIUPE/ref=asc_df_B005FDIUPE4796760/?tag=hyprod-20&creative=394997&creativeASIN=B005FDIUPE&linkCode=df0&hvadid=167124607404&hvpos=1o2&hvnetw=g&hvrand=4859194944388198658&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9028744&hvtargid=pla-272348729222

Liberty doesn't have anything that small, nor does AMSEC nor Ft. Knox. I tried to get Sturdy to build one that small and they wouldn't, either.

about the smallest two i could find that seemed worth a crap was this AMSEC and Liberty, but both are much bigger than i'm looking for:

http://www.amsecusa.com/product/tf5517/

http://www.libertysafe.com/safe-centurion-safes-ps-23.html?tab=specs (http://www.amsecusa.com/product/tf5517/)



Have you seen the AMSEC DV652? They run about $420

Description:

There’s no better place to store your home-defense weapon within arm’s reach than under your bed in the secure and easily accessible AMSEC Defense Vault! The High Security electronic lock is easy to use, and in a matter of seconds, the door is open and the weapon is in hand! The Defense Vault utilizes wasted space and is a great storage solution when space is limited! Larger traditional safes are typically placed in larger rooms, basements or the garage. With the Defense Vault, you will have peace of mind in knowing that you are protected within seconds of a home intrusion. Whether you currently have a safe or not, the Defense Vault should seriously be considered for any gun owner.

Outside Dimensions: 6” H x 52” W x 14” D
Tray Size: 3-3/8” x 43-1/4” x 13”
Body: 14 gauge Steel
Weight: 90

Locking Device: 5 Point Slide Locking Bar with AMSEC ESL5 Electronic Lock
Safe Color: Black
Interior: Foam Padded slide-out gun tray
Warranty: 1 Year Parts & Labor

Features:
· AMSEC’s ESL5 electronic lock with an illuminated keypad. Bright, backlit keys let you enter your PIN code, even in the dark.
· Four (4) pre-cut anchor holes with mounting hardware.

Pic taken from google.....not mine:
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq75/opie011/IMG_3105-900x600_zpstx3jghp0.jpg (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/opie011/media/IMG_3105-900x600_zpstx3jghp0.jpg.html)

[drew890]

Have you seen the AMSEC DV652? They run about $420

Description:

There’s no better place to store your home-defense weapon within arm’s reach than under your bed in the secure and easily accessible AMSEC Defense Vault! The High Security electronic lock is easy to use, and in a matter of seconds, the door is open and the weapon is in hand! The Defense Vault utilizes wasted space and is a great storage solution when space is limited! Larger traditional safes are typically placed in larger rooms, basements or the garage. With the Defense Vault, you will have peace of mind in knowing that you are protected within seconds of a home intrusion. Whether you currently have a safe or not, the Defense Vault should seriously be considered for any gun owner.

Outside Dimensions: 6” H x 52” W x 14” D
Tray Size: 3-3/8” x 43-1/4” x 13”
Body: 14 gauge Steel
Weight: 90

Locking Device: 5 Point Slide Locking Bar with AMSEC ESL5 Electronic Lock
Safe Color: Black
Interior: Foam Padded slide-out gun tray
Warranty: 1 Year Parts & Labor

Features:
· AMSEC’s ESL5 electronic lock with an illuminated keypad. Bright, backlit keys let you enter your PIN code, even in the dark.
· Four (4) pre-cut anchor holes with mounting hardware.

Pic taken from google.....not mine:
http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq75/opie011/IMG_3105-900x600_zpstx3jghp0.jpg (http://s435.photobucket.com/user/opie011/media/IMG_3105-900x600_zpstx3jghp0.jpg.html)

I've used this amsec for the past three years.
It has served me well with zero complaints.
I believe that I paid $325 at a lgs.

[funkymonkey1111]

Do you bolt that amsec drawer to the floor? Or mount it on the bottom of your bed frame?

[drew890]

Currently mounted to the bed frame.

[Irving]

That sorta begs the question. Perhaps they're expensive guns? Perhaps I want some semblance of deterrence and/or fire protection, also. But, I've wrestled with that very question.

but why wouldn't you want to provide the same level of protection for 1 or 2 home defense guns at the ready versus the rest of your collection?

I think I'm under the impression that non-commercial safes are all pretty much glorified stack-ons. If you can cut through the side with a grinder, it doesn't really matter how many thick metal posts are in the door, or how much it weighs. Also, I'm not sure how I feel about a 30 minute fire rating. Running through the scenarios of a house fire where a safe is subjected to only 30 minutes of an intense fire before being put out seems about as statistically low as a house fire in the first place.

I'm not trying to talk anyone out of having a large safe, especially if they have nice guns (I certainly do NOT), but it seems to me that a dedicated home defense gun isn't going to be rare, or irreplaceable. If there is a larger safe somewhere else in the house to hold nicer guns, then even less of a reason for something fancy for immediate access.

[Seamonkey]

Not sure if this would work for an AR but I've got a shotgun locked with the Ruger rifle lock and connected to an eye bolt. Unlocks with a key.
Immediate issues addressed via the EDC

http://www.shootersdiscount.com/cart/accessories/ruger-oem/ruger-oem-gun-locks-3-.html

[Dave_L]

I just got this for our master bedroom:

http://bestgunsafeusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/BARSKA-Quick-Access-Biometric-Rifle-Safe-2.jpg

It's called the Barska Quick Access safe. It's big enough to hold a rifle or two and some mags. It uses biometric scanner to give access and you can save as many fingerprints as you want in there. I've had my eye on them in the past but when it went on sale for like $170, I had to go for it. I realize its not a real "safe" but it was affordable and lets me keep some better options other than a pistol in my bedroom safely. It also lets my wife have access without having to remember a combo.

https://www.amazon.com/Barska-Quick-Access-Biometric-AX11652/dp/B005FDIUPE

[Kilyung]

Can you provide info on where to get such a thing please?

It's a SecureIt locker (model 72). It weighs 240lbs alone. With its contents, mine probably tips 800lbs. It's also bolted to the floor and anchored to a metal post. It's not being carried away. I was going to get a traditional gun safe but after a lot of reflection I didn't see the logic in a safe. The locker affords me a lot more storage in a more compact space.

[Kilyung]

I just looked at the price.$1599 WOW, that is expensive for what you get or dont get. There are so many better options for that price.

The Fatboy Jr safe was my reference point. Same price but significantly less storage capacity while taking up more physical space. I did not consider cheaper safes after doing a lot of research and reading reviews. I could have purchased the SecureIt Model 52 for much less but I needed more capacity.

[HoneyBadger]

Have you seen these? https://www.thegunbox.com/pages/sk-1-tactical

[DenverGP]

http://www.hornady.com/store/RAPiD-Safe-AR-Wall-Lock

[mattiooo]

Have you seen these? https://www.thegunbox.com/pages/sk-1-tactical

That one looks fantastic. Love the modern styling. Hides in plain sight really well. Any feedback on the prototype?

[HoneyBadger]

That one looks fantastic. Love the modern styling. Hides in plain sight really well. Any feedback on the prototype?

No feedback from me, but I've been seeing their ads for about 6 months now. I didn't realize they were priced so high... I incorrectly assumed (based on the features) that they would cost about $350. I love the myriad of options to open them. Their handgun safes look pretty good too, but it looks like they are really about tamper resistance (kids, friends, etc) and not actual security of the weapons. I think the best "feature" is its inconspicuous design. To someone who has never seen it before, it just looks like a speaker system or air purifier.

[lex137]

Get something from tactical walls, I think a member use to make something like it too! Floating shelf that can decorate and can have it anywhere in the house.

[brutal]

Get something from tactical walls, I think a member use to make something like it too! Floating shelf that can decorate and can have it anywhere in the house.

TimK has a line, site link is here somewhere.

[sampson]

TimK has a line, site link is here somewhere.
www.timkulincabinetry.com


Link I found

[00tec]

www.timkulincabinetry.com


Link I found

Tim posted the link to his shelves earlier in this thread.

Cachemystuff.com

[Acetylcholine]

7220272203I found Rough Country Rustic Furniture online as they were offering a sale on concealment flags. Locks with magnet over each door. Easier than a dial lock or noisy digital lock when you need it. Quality is top notch but shipping too forever.

http://www.roughcountryrusticfurniture.com/concealment-flags--wall-art.html

[feal]

I had a smaller pistol lock box that mounted between the wall studs, it had a key, but you can probably get one with mechanical buttons. similar to this:

https://www.safesetc.com/2073.html

[feal]

something more like this - don't know what id would cost to get the mechanical push button lock on it:

https://www.opticsplanet.com/homak-between-the-studs-long-gun-wall-safe.html?utm_source=bing&utm_medium=PLA&utm_term=&utm_campaign=4585444525143528&msclkid=6320b824fb131d11ed00e2d062d7879f&image=ee7511d406