Tankless Water Heater...

[Grant H.]

So, I know we have a few people that are HVAC guys, but my water heater is starting to struggle, and I want to get a few quotes on going tankless.

Are there any guys on here that are heating/plumbing pro's that want to quote a tankless and install for me?

Thanks in advance!

[Irving]

Brycom is the HVAC guy for up North.

[SouthPaw]

Get in touch with Brycom. You get the big store pricing and discounts with the small time guy customer service.

[cstone]

What they said.

Since this is a replacement, don't be surprised if the venting required for tankless over standard water heater doesn't make the project cost prohibitive. Brycom will take care of you.

[Grant H.]

Thanks guys.

[MarkCO]

For the whole house, tankless does not make economic sense, even less so for a retrofit. Using for a large tub, yeah maybe. The high efficiency, tank commercial grade water heaters are a better overall solution that will cost less.

[Grant H.]

For the whole house, tankless does not make economic sense, even less so for a retrofit. Using for a large tub, yeah maybe. The high efficiency, tank commercial grade water heaters are a better overall solution that will cost less.

Yeah, not really...

They cost nearly as much as the high end tankless, and they still keep a big tank of water heated. Well insulated or not, it still keeps the water hot when you're not using it.

[Ramsker]

We replaced our water heater last year and I thought about a tankless . . . but I went with a tank again. Had a few conversations with neighbors who got tankless and they said they were ok, but that they struggled if more than one thing was going on at one time. Like if one person was showering and you were doing dishes or another person was showering, the tankless had a hard time keeping up. Maybe they just undersized their units? Don't know. Maybe 10 or so years from now when this heater is on it's last years and the kids are out of the nest, we'll look at tankless.

But interested to hear what others say about them.

[newracer]

We have been very happy with our tankless unit. Two showers at a time is no problem. The pressure does reduce a little but hardly noticeable.


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[Firehaus]

Best of both?

https://www.rinnai.us/hybrid-tank-tankless-water-heater


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[bryjcom]

When I put tankless in I AWAYS go with the biggest and most efficient one I can get. Which is 199K BTU at about 95% efficient. The reason is that the incoming water temp is much colder during the winter months and it takes a lot more input to heat up that water in a short period of time. When that happens some of the smaller ones will start restricting the flow to meet target temp. That's when you get the complaints. If you're trying to go cheap, then forget about it. You won't be happy.


The "problem" with tankless is:

-They require 120 volts
-They require new venting most likely through the side of the house.
-They require a drain nearby
-They usually require an increased gas line to them.
-They require more water line piping/modification

The biggest problem for me is the electrical. I a lot of times have to get my electrician out there to wire me up a circuit.


This doesn't mean people shouldn't at least consider them.... But when you factor all those things in, we start getting past $3K and even into the $4k scenarios due to the amount of work I have to do.

If you're looking to penny pinch and buy one from the Amazon and have me put it in, then forget about it.. Find a craigslist warrior to do that. But if you're looking for endless hot water then you might consider it.

[Grant H.]

When I put tankless in I AWAYS go with the biggest and most efficient one I can get. Which is 199K BTU at about 95% efficient. The reason is that the incoming water temp is much colder during the winter months and it takes a lot more input to heat up that water in a short period of time. When that happens some of the smaller ones will start restricting the flow to meet target temp. That's when you get the complaints. If you're trying to go cheap, then forget about it. You won't be happy.


The "problem" with tankless is:

-They require 120 volts - 100% available, I can also have the electrician from work put a dedicated circuit in if you would prefer.
-They require new venting most likely through the side of the house. - Not an issue. Utility room has an exterior wall with a dryer vent already.
-They require a drain nearby - Already available in the floor.
-They usually require an increased gas line to them - I will double check, but I think I already have a 3/4" line for the furnace and water heater.
-They require more water line piping/modification - Understood, but would like to see a quote.

The biggest problem for me is the electrical. I a lot of times have to get my electrician out there to wire me up a circuit.


This doesn't mean people shouldn't at least consider them.... But when you factor all those things in, we start getting past $3K and even into the $4k scenarios due to the amount of work I have to do.

If you're looking to penny pinch and buy one from the Amazon and have me put it in, then forget about it.. Find a craigslist warrior to do that. But if you're looking for endless hot water then you might consider it.

Answers above.

Everyone I know that has bought one like you are recommending, has been extremely happy with them. This house is also nicely setup for one, since all the showers/faucets in the house are within 10-20ft of the utility closet, not all the way across the house.

[DFBrews]

I just put a 200k btu one in my parents house this spring they really like it so far. Wiawela is the brand from a cold start in the morning for example it's about 30 seconds to get hot water out. This is with 50 degree well water as well

[Circuits]

Unless the plumber is selling you the tankless, don't even bother.

I bought a tankless water heater, and asked for installation quotes from ten different area firms. Only two showed up to survey and give an estimate, and none of them even ended up giving me an estimate - they just didn't want to do the job unless they were making the money on the water heater, in addition to the cost of the installation. YMMV.