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The Extractor
09-27-2009, 15:33
I bought a 100 rd box at wal mart yesterday and the primers pockets look like they have sand/dirt/crud in them some are blackened as well. I am going to e mail winchester. this is bs.
I will get pics shortly.

INSPECT YOUR AMMO at the store if possible.

Just checked and the 100 rd box of 45 is fine as well as the 44 mag and 270.... weird.
hobowh
09-27-2009, 15:41
someone at the store may be replacing with cheap reloads, call the store as well
The Extractor
09-27-2009, 15:48
possibly as the box is not glue sealed like the .45.... but the rest of the rd looks like new mfg stuff like I have bought before... it also doesnt brush off either...
The Extractor
09-27-2009, 15:49
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/OLDARMY45/crap%2040%20ammo/DSCN2599.jpg

link to more pics.

http://s17.photobucket.com/albums/b83/OLDARMY45/crap%2040%20ammo/
SSChameleon
09-27-2009, 16:50
It's probably that DNA trace substance the Gun Czar was talking about.
Batteriesnare
09-27-2009, 16:57
It's probably that DNA trace substance the Gun Czar was talking about.

Actually you may be right....

That is strange though, I've bought several WWB 100 round packs of .40 from Wally World and never seen anything like this. I will keep my eye out for similar incidents and report. Let us know what they say!
bjl913
09-27-2009, 17:27
I would send those pics to winchester and ask what it is! Very curious, keep us informed!
thedave1164
09-27-2009, 18:00
I have seen that before, I believe it is from a dirty primer pocket forming die.
The Extractor
09-27-2009, 18:03
so does it matter ?
The Extractor
09-27-2009, 18:32
for the life of me I cannot find a phone number or e mail.... Dangit...
GunTroll
09-27-2009, 18:51
so does it matter ?

Maybe if you only like shooting pretty brass! Otherwise you'll be fine.
car-15
09-27-2009, 18:56
for the life of me I cannot find a phone number or e mail.... Dangit...


http://www.b2i.us/profiles/investor/contactus.asp?f=1&BzID=1548&to=cm&Nav=0&LangID=1&s=0
The Extractor
09-27-2009, 19:17
Thank you sir.
Colorado Osprey
09-27-2009, 19:42
Ummm.. that link was for stock investors

Here is a email address for law enforcement ammo sales/concerns:
pfnowak@olin.com

That might get you further.
kidicarus13
09-27-2009, 19:54
That ammo looks terrible!
The Extractor
09-27-2009, 19:58
That is what I thought. I e-mailed anyway. Maybe they will give me the right address.
B2crawler
09-27-2009, 20:25
That's some shitty looking ammo. Trying to keep up with demand at all cost or what?
Mtn.man
09-27-2009, 21:19
geez,, don't yaz know that wallymarts peeps get no lunch break per se so they have to eats where they works.

so sombody was eat'n and stocking ammo and therefore the funky looking shit on the cases.....
spleify
09-27-2009, 22:21
Wow thats horrible. I hope you get it squared away.

Good luck and keep us posted.
Batteriesnare
09-27-2009, 23:12
geez,, don't yaz know that wallymarts peeps get no lunch break per se so they have to eats where they works.

so sombody was eat'n and stocking ammo and therefore the funky looking shit on the cases.....

Ha![ROFL1]
Daniel_187
09-28-2009, 09:19
someone at the store may be replacing with cheap reloads, call the store as well

I don't think so, they were very anal when They sold me the wrong ammo and I did not relize it till I almost walked out the door, I went to the return counter and they were saying I could not return it, I told them I have not left the store yet look at the store cameras, they did and I got a refund
Ridge
09-28-2009, 11:49
A while back The Firing Line got a bunch of American Eagle .50BMG rounds off their delivery truck...at least 1 box, all the rounds were scuffed and scratched and had extractor marks on the casings...
SA Friday
09-28-2009, 15:10
The highly doubt the ammo pictured are reloads. That appears to be some factory disfunction going on there. You can't get completely rid of striation marks on the head of the case if once shot, and there would definately be some sort of extractor call marks on the rim area.
The Extractor
09-30-2009, 20:22
no response yet. Any other e mail addys or fone # ?
theGinsue
09-30-2009, 21:50
This is another thread that I've misssed for the first couple of days...

Those rounds look horrible. I agree that this looks like a manufacturing issue but I can't imagine how in the heck Winchester could have let ammo like that past their quality inspectors.
SA Friday
09-30-2009, 22:01
Honestly, I would just go shoot it. Check the spent cases after the first one or two and if the primers are sealing and no overpressure, all is good. It appears to be more cosmetic than anything.
The Extractor
09-30-2009, 22:03
I dont have my G23 yet :(
The Extractor
09-30-2009, 22:14
seriously I have to write a letter to get ahold of them ?


http://www.winchester.com/search/searchresults.aspx?searchtext=contact
The Extractor
10-01-2009, 22:15
Got an e mail reply today. Nice lady on the phone sent a UPS call tag for it. We will see.
The Extractor
12-05-2009, 14:47
to bring this back from the dead. They sent me $40 in coupons for ammo. Said there was nothing wrong with the ammo.
hobowh
12-05-2009, 15:36
coupons re great but only if it's in stock...
sniper7
12-05-2009, 19:02
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=42&t=248899


that is a link to my comparison between winchester and hornady bullets for .223 ammo.

I have found Winchester, unless high price ammo is actually of pretty poor quality.
they will probably tell you the rounds you received are within limits.

biggest cause at this point is the machines are running 24/7 pumping out ammo and they are spending less time and money keeping them clean and taking care to produce not only a quality ammo product but a clean and visually appealing ammo product as well.