Obama admin gave government moles open access to NSA surveillance

[hollohas]

I don't know how I missed this, but recent events have brought this to my attention. Right before leaving office, the Obama admin effectively gave 16 fed agencies free and open access to raw NSA wiretapping data. Previously, the NSA filtered data and other agencies had to have a specific need to access data.

Now we know Obama loyalists are using it to their full advantage. Obama made sure to set the stage for all these leaks. Dirty.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/us/politics/nsa-gets-more-latitude-to-share-intercepted-communications.html?platform=hootsuite


The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches.

The change means that far more officials will be searching through raw data. Essentially, the government is reducing the risk that the N.S.A. will fail to recognize that a piece of information would be valuable to another agency, but increasing the risk that officials will see private information about innocent people.

Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch signed the new rules, permitting the N.S.A. to disseminate “raw signals intelligence information,” on Jan. 3, after the director of national intelligence, James R. Clapper Jr., signed them on Dec. 15, according to a 23-page, largely declassified copy of the procedures.

Previously, the N.S.A. filtered information before sharing intercepted communications with another agency, like the C.I.A. or the intelligence branches of the F.B.I. and the Drug Enforcement Administration. The N.S.A.’s analysts passed on only information they deemed pertinent, screening out the identities of innocent people and irrelevant personal information.

Now, other intelligence agencies will be able to search directly through raw repositories of communications intercepted by the N.S.A. and then apply such rules for “minimizing” privacy intrusions.

[cstone]

If the administration and/or Congress search for the leaks, as I believe they should and are obligated to do, the media and Democratic party will howl at what they will call a witch hunt. This will be a distraction that will slow the President from accomplishing his goals and the media and Democratic party will see this as achieving one of their goals.

I look forward to a wholesale cleaning of the US intelligence community along with most of the other mid and high level civil servants who rose to their positions over the past eight years.

Don't replace them. Just allow this to be a part of the downsizing of the government bureaucracy.

[Skip]

So they blew this advantage on week three? To take out a Democrat?

[ROFL2]

Their desperation level must be reaching critical.

[hollohas]

So they blew this advantage on week three? To take out a Democrat?



I suspect they are just getting started. Takes time to search the phone records of everyone associated with Trump. There will be more...

Meanwhile, with 17 agencies on the suspect list, it will take even more time to root out the culprits. It sounds nice to wholesale fire them all...but that will never happen.

[Dave_L]

I'm assuming there will be 4 years of stuff like this.

[Aloha_Shooter]

I look forward to a wholesale cleaning of the US intelligence community along with most of the other mid and high level civil servants who rose to their positions over the past eight years.

While the IC has gotten a whole lot more "globalist" and followed the general societal trend toward liberalism over the past 20 years, I actually don't think these leaks are coming from real careerists in the IC. I think it's far more likely they are coming from bureaucrats in other agencies or political staffers who have access to intel thanks to the "need to share" that has replaced proper information security for the past decade.

We used to make fun of the Soviets for their nomenklatura during the Cold War but we've allowed our own version take over our government since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

[Bailey Guns]

So they blew this advantage on week three? To take out a Democrat?

[ROFL2]

Their desperation level must be reaching critical.

Flynn's affiliation didn't matter to them. What was important was it was a hit against Trump. It could've been anyone...the person didn't matter.

[Skip]

Flynn's affiliation didn't matter to them. What was important was it was a hit against Trump. It could've been anyone...the person didn't matter.

Flynn was one of the check-and-balance moderates that was in the inner circle.

I say "good job Dems!"

The IC people who did this have outed themselves and violated the law to score their point. This isn't going to be repeatable.

Even Kucinich gets it...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j_ZfKmcnSk

[Aloha_Shooter]

I still think it's far more likely to end up being one of the DOJ people with access than someone actually in the IC. The DOJ was profoundly corrupted during the Clinton years and only got more political and partisan during the Obama years.

[Skip]

I still think it's far more likely to end up being one of the DOJ people with access than someone actually in the IC. The DOJ was profoundly corrupted during the Clinton years and only got more political and partisan during the Obama years.

If it came from DoJ isn't that worse?

The IC can hide behind retro FISA warrants. I'm not sure DoJ can. Either way it's a problem but DoJ has additional Fourth Amendment issues which take prosecution off the table (assuming the worst).

And I'm not sure we can assume the worst because I have yet to see the actual transcripts. The MSM wanted to push this is a smear story absent any facts about what was said. If Flynn made promises to Russia, that is bad. If he said things like "this is what we are thinking..." or "hold on for Trump" then I don't see a Logan Act concern. Policy statements are not negotiations.

It's obvious Obama was trying to needlessly agitate Russia in his final months. We should be grateful cooler heads were talking and prevailed. I still don't understand why Libs want WWIII. They couldn't even tolerate Iraq! I guess they want the whole world to burn because they lost an election.

[hollohas]

I guess they want the whole world to burn because they lost an election.

^This. And then they can blame republicans in hopes they can ruin them for decades.

[cstone]

Regardless of who or which agency these leaks came from, this incident is a clear example of how the government is too big and operating with far too much impunity. Cut the size of all government agencies and hold people criminally responsible when they are caught.

[Bailey Guns]

I know when I was in the intel collection business back in the 80s there was hell to pay if we intercepted communications from US citizens. There was a very strict protocol for notifications and handling/destruction of any transcripts. To say it was a highly discouraged practice would be an extreme understatement.

[Fmedges]

The cancer that is our government makes me sick.

[Skip]

I know when I was in the intel collection business back in the 80s there was hell to pay if we intercepted communications from US citizens. There was a very strict protocol for notifications and handling/destruction of any transcripts. To say it was a highly discouraged practice would be an extreme understatement.

It would seem times have changed. :(

The DNC apparently has a "Trump War Room" with staff working 24/7 to bring down Trump. They appear to be coordinating with these moles and the media. They don't seem to really care about the legal or security consequences of their actions.

[Skip]

I still think it's far more likely to end up being one of the DOJ people with access than someone actually in the IC. The DOJ was profoundly corrupted during the Clinton years and only got more political and partisan during the Obama years.

Appears to be the case...

Why Was the FBI Investigating General Flynn?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445045/


Like I said, I think this is much worse.

[hollohas]

Appears to be the case...

Why Was the FBI Investigating General Flynn?

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445045/


Like I said, I think this is much worse.
Link no worky?

[Skip]

Link no worky?

Carp! Sorry.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/445045/general-michael-flynn-national-security-adviser-fbi-investigation-phone-call-russian-ambassador