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thedave1164
02-23-2017, 20:42
So after a nice run of almost 3 years, my company lost the support contract for a gov agency, and the new company after insulting me with an extreme low ball offer has informed said gov agency that they will not be accepting my acceptance of their offer letter even though I did not accept said offer letter.

So as of the 1st of March I am unemployed and available for hire :)

Irving
02-23-2017, 20:59
Congratulations!

roberth
02-23-2017, 21:00
Congratulations!

+1

thedave1164
02-24-2017, 17:26
Yep, it is confirmed, got into work today and my computer account was disabled.

So I was paid to play today, I needed to update my laptop, and a bunch of other things.

Still have to go in Monday and Tuesday, may visit Redbox for educational materials

Justin
02-27-2017, 10:30
Ugh, sorry to hear about this.

Irving
02-27-2017, 10:37
How many promising options do you have on the table right now? You seem highly employable from what I know about you.

earplug
02-27-2017, 12:04
Norton UK motorcycles is hiring.

Wulf202
02-27-2017, 13:20
Perfect time to go into business yourself?
You'd make an excellent dread pirate roberts.

Justin
02-27-2017, 14:14
Is there actually good money in piracy?

That seems more like a job where passion is the main motivator.

wctriumph
02-27-2017, 15:27
Norton UK motorcycles is hiring.

Norton UK is always hiring.

Great-Kazoo
02-27-2017, 16:14
Is there actually good money in piracy?

That seems more like a job where passion is the main motivator.

Passion goes hand in hand with the desire to acquire lot's of other realms possessions

JohnTRourke
02-27-2017, 17:04
Is there actually good money in piracy?

.

The Clintons seemed to have done pretty well.

thedave1164
02-28-2017, 05:29
Thanks guys!

Not ignoring the thread, just trying to keep a low profile till 2:30 today.

Then I can explain further :)

theGinsue
02-28-2017, 07:55
Let us know what your skillset is (after 2:30 today). If I'm not mistaken there are a few positions open where I work for someone with a DoD clearance.

thedave1164
02-28-2017, 10:08
So I am having some fun interrupting the the plans of the new contractor, there is little seating available in my building right now so they have to sit in the training room I am in right now.

So they can not have open conversations with the guys that are converting over.

I love it when a plan comes together :)

ray1970
02-28-2017, 10:22
Make sure to slide into your boss's office before you leave and poop in one of his filing cabinets.

yankeefan98121
02-28-2017, 15:27
Make sure to slide into your boss's office before you leave and poop in one of his filing cabinets.

^^^^ this! [pileoshit]

CS1983
02-28-2017, 15:41
Make sure to slide into your boss's office before you leave and poop in one of his filing cabinets.

Get with the new tech, man. He could just fart into the cloud.

thedave1164
02-28-2017, 17:08
LOL,

I was supporting APHIS USDA, until 2:30 today when the contract ended.

My company had held the support contract and renewal for about 10 years, I joined up in June of 2014.

The contract was awarded to another company in January, and last week they decided that they would offer me almost $20K less than what I was making currently. Pretty much across the board they made offers that were rather large pay cuts, some people negotiated back to their current pay level, a few did not and signed anyway.

I told them their offer was an insult, and took them to task, they did not have the guts to face me and instead just told the contracting office that they would not accept my acceptance of their offer letter that I did not accept.

They went on in a meeting with management to say they had concerns about me and were uncomfortable. So the head of the IT org disregarded all the management I worked for/with, and had my accounts locked.

Management told them I was not a problem and that I only had issues with the new contractor, still they locked the accounts.

Anyway, the leadership of the new contractor has real anger issues.

And to top it off, they now have NO support for the virtual infrastructure, which is a violation of their contract, and are scrambling around to all the people that are left looking for someone that can do my job.

Morale was already at an all time low, and the poor people left there are going to suffer along with the customer.

It sucks, but I am pretty sure the best thing for me was to exit from the situation before being hired and fired.

thedave1164
02-28-2017, 17:11
The new contractor manager, InquisIT Bob, finally gave up and went to lunch, he did not return after lunch :)

Guess he wasted an entire day LOL

thedave1164
02-28-2017, 17:13
I am in good standing with my APHIS management and with my company, all are writing me letters of recommendation, so there is that

ray1970
02-28-2017, 18:53
I am in good standing with my APHIS management and with my company, all are writing me letters of recommendation, so there is that

That could change quickly if you took my advice and pooped in the filing cabinet.

trlcavscout
02-28-2017, 22:58
We are in the same boat, I have been riding the couch for a week now. I may start a new job tomorrow but then again a month off would be nice! Good luck to you!!! The best my douchebag manager could come up with was to claim I made a racial comment about a new employee, which everyone that knows me knows that's total BS!

Great-Kazoo
02-28-2017, 23:11
That could change quickly if you took my advice and pooped in the filing cabinet.

No Shit


We are in the same boat, I have been riding the couch for a week now. I may start a new job tomorrow but then again a month off would be nice! Good luck to you!!! The best my douchebag manager could come up with was to claim I made a racial comment about a new employee, which everyone that knows me knows that's total BS!



HR better have documentation. Informed you during a meeting in the HR office , where you signed acknowledgement of such AND if there was a complaint. Possible Sensitivity Training prior to any termination.

Or say fuk it and find new employment.

thedave1164
03-01-2017, 07:27
We are in the same boat, I have been riding the couch for a week now. I may start a new job tomorrow but then again a month off would be nice! Good luck to you!!! The best my douchebag manager could come up with was to claim I made a racial comment about a new employee, which everyone that knows me knows that's total BS!

Dang dude, did not know about this.

Let's catch breakfast sometime

thedave1164
03-01-2017, 07:42
Sometime in the next week or so InquisIT will discover the error of their ways, they did not listen to what I was telling them about my responsibilities and duties.

And the SOW was written by someone that did not know the extent of my responsibilities and duties.

There is a system that only I supported, it is critical to operations, and it goes down about every 6 weeks so it is due any day now. And it's certificate is due to expire, which will take it offline as well.

It is documented, but no one else really even knows it exists, and I was the last one to have access to the share point site where the documents are stored. Not to mention that I was the only one in ServiceNow for the trouble tickets.

What is best is that because of my knowing the system, the USDA did not renew their maintenance contract on it, as near as I know I was the only one left who had the root password to the system, and I did not have it memorized, it was stored on my encrypted laptop, which after my accounts were, it was turned over to desktop support and reimagined for reissue.

I told them, but they ignored me because of their greed, plain and simple.

Monday and yesterday they were scrambling around asking all the people that were left if they could support VMware.

They came in like it was a hostile take over, and instead of viewing us as a turn key solution, they saw us as a problem they had to figure out and fix to maximize their $$$$$$

CS1983
03-01-2017, 07:51
I was wondering about passwords and documentation when you initially said you were in charge of their virtual infrastructure...

Man oh man, they are in for a ride. lol.

cableguy11
03-01-2017, 07:54
Sounds to me if they want you back your salary just doubled!!

CS1983
03-01-2017, 07:57
Should contract for them as a consultant. Call the company Spanish InquisITion, LLC.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WJXHY2OXGE

Justin
03-01-2017, 09:01
We are in the same boat, I have been riding the couch for a week now.

Starting to sound like there's enough of us that we should put together a range trip.

Irving
03-01-2017, 10:30
Starting to sound like there's enough of us that we should put together a range trip.

Or start a company.


My employer likes to double down on stupid and I'm concerned it's going to start losing us business.

Justin
03-01-2017, 10:41
Heh. One of the things I need to do in the immediate future is file the forms to set up an LLC. I've already had a couple people mention they could use me for some 1099 work.

Great-Kazoo
03-01-2017, 10:49
Or start a company.

My employer likes to double down on stupid and I'm concerned it's going to start losing us business.


I know a good consultant.

thedave1164
03-01-2017, 11:39
Heh. One of the things I need to do in the immediate future is file the forms to set up an LLC. I've already had a couple people mention they could use me for some 1099 work.

5 minutes and $50 on the sec of state website

thedave1164
03-01-2017, 11:41
Or start a company.


My employer likes to double down on stupid and I'm concerned it's going to start losing us business.

seems to be a disease

Justin
03-01-2017, 13:22
Our issue was just a lack of doing viable business development.

Justin
03-01-2017, 14:02
5 minutes and $50 on the sec of state website

Mostly I'm hung up on the name.

CS1983
03-01-2017, 14:23
Mostly I'm hung up on the name.

Spanish InquisITion, LLC

"We'll torture your problems into submission"

"Burning down the competition"

"Unapproved by Rome and doin' it our way!"

So many great possibilities with that name.

ray1970
03-01-2017, 14:54
Spanish InquisITion, LLC


"Ask us about concrete work."

Great-Kazoo
03-01-2017, 15:01
Mostly I'm hung up on the name.

JustinTime LLC

Had you called us yesterday Your problem would have been Fixed Today

brutal
03-01-2017, 16:45
near as I know I was the only one left who had the root password to the system, and I did not have it memorized,

Someone's fuxored.

Irving
03-01-2017, 18:27
Heh. One of the things I need to do in the immediate future is file the forms to set up an LLC. I've already had a couple people mention they could use me for some 1099 work.


5 minutes and $50 on the sec of state website

I just started my second LLC last week. I'm actually working on a step-by-step to post on here, but since it will also include getting (hopefully) $50,000 in business credit within the first 6 months, it'll be a while before I post it up. As thedave says though, an LLC is 10 minutes and $50 online. Technically, all it takes to start a business is to declare oneself to be in business. You don't have to file anything to start. I'd still recommend an LLC though.

thedave1164
03-01-2017, 18:35
I have a former coworker that would love to start a company with me to provide IT services.

I can do the systems and he is a network guy, we have another systems guy that would leave the new company and join up, plus a multi faucted web application guy as well, he is also a Linux guru

So talent is not an issue, finding the customers is the issue

Irving
03-01-2017, 18:40
Heh. One of the things I need to do in the immediate future is file the forms to set up an LLC. I've already had a couple people mention they could use me for some 1099 work.


I have a former coworker that would love to start a company with me to provide IT services.

I can do the systems and he is a network guy, we have another systems guy that would leave the new company and join up, plus a multi faucted web application guy as well, he is also a Linux guru

So talent is not an issue, finding the customers is the issue

Reality check. If starting a company is easy, fast, and cheap, and finding customers is the only issue, then I don't see the down side of starting said company as a side hustle. Everyone involved get's to keep their day job while making a name for the company. Once a big enough contract comes in, everyone can quit and go full time with the company. The longer it takes, the more established the company will look as far as how long the actual name and website has been around.

thedave1164
03-01-2017, 18:56
True, and we really should have started a while ago

Irving
03-01-2017, 19:00
You can have a loss for 3 out of 5 years (4 out of 5 for horse racing) before your business is declared to be a hobby by the IRS. So you'll be able to write off any start-up or maintenance costs.

Great-Kazoo
03-01-2017, 21:07
I don't see the down side of starting said company as a side hustle. Everyone involved get's to keep their day job while making a name for the company. Once a big enough contract comes in, everyone can quit and go full time with the company.

Too bad, he's already unemployed


You can have a loss for 3 out of 5 years (4 out of 5 for horse racing) before your business is declared to be a hobby by the IRS. So you'll be able to write off any start-up or maintenance costs.

If one needs to put food on the table, doing any kind of business for a loss isn't a game plan.

I understand you're saying so for those who might consider it. However the OP needs a job sooner, than later. Fortunately he's a marketable guy.

Irving
03-01-2017, 21:18
You're not picking up what I'm laying down. We know he needs to eat, I'm just providing the hard sell, Great_Kazoo/wulf202, kind of encouragement to take this opportunity to start that business as well. I can't help him get another contract (unfortunately) but I make an alright muse.

Great-Kazoo
03-01-2017, 21:23
You're not picking up what I'm laying down. We know he needs to eat, I'm just providing the hard sell, Great_Kazoo/wulf202, kind of encouragement to take this opportunity to start that business as well. I can't help him get another contract (unfortunately) but I make an alright muse.

http://www.memes.at/faces/i_see_what_you_did_there.jpg

trlcavscout
03-01-2017, 22:36
I have a former coworker that would love to start a company with me to provide IT services.

I can do the systems and he is a network guy, we have another systems guy that would leave the new company and join up, plus a multi faucted web application guy as well, he is also a Linux guru

So talent is not an issue, finding the customers is the issue

I might be in, I do networking, im more of a cisco guy but i do data and voice stuff. I just started today with a telecom company, this week's project is 21k feet of data wiring at a place in loveland, gonna be busy!

hurley842002
03-01-2017, 22:43
JustinTime LLC

Had you called us yesterday Your problem would have been Fixed Today
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170302/52d16155090c60097b42a72e4649038c.jpg

brutal
03-02-2017, 02:13
Reality check. If starting a company is easy, fast, and cheap, and finding customers is the only issue, then I don't see the down side of starting said company as a side hustle. Everyone involved get's to keep their day job while making a name for the company. Once a big enough contract comes in, everyone can quit and go full time with the company. The longer it takes, the more established the company will look as far as how long the actual name and website has been around.

Unless you're bound by a non-compete...

Kinda tough to run a side biz in the same industry.

They might be tough to enforce after a separation, but are definitely grounds for dismissal if you get caught violating it during employment.

CS1983
03-02-2017, 07:46
Unless you're bound by a non-compete...

Kinda tough to run a side biz in the same industry.

They might be tough to enforce after a separation, but are definitely grounds for dismissal if you get caught violating it during employment.

Too bad it's not that way with "politics", eh?

Justin
03-02-2017, 08:35
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170302/52d16155090c60097b42a72e4649038c.jpg

Hey!

Where did you find a picture of me! [ROFL2]

Irving
03-02-2017, 09:26
Unless you're bound by a non-compete...

Kinda tough to run a side biz in the same industry.

They might be tough to enforce after a separation, but are definitely grounds for dismissal if you get caught violating it during employment.

That's true. Fortunately my business has nothing to do with what I do for a living, but I doubt most people are in that same position. I wonder if one could run a "consulting" firm until they get real customers.

Wulf202
03-02-2017, 10:49
Unless you're bound by a non-compete...

Kinda tough to run a side biz in the same industry.

They might be tough to enforce after a separation, but are definitely grounds for dismissal if you get caught violating it during employment.

Non competes are only enforceable for people who are partners or investors

Wulf202
03-02-2017, 10:50
You're not picking up what I'm laying down. We know he needs to eat, I'm just providing the hard sell, Great_Kazoo/wulf202, kind of encouragement to take this opportunity to start that business as well. I can't help him get another contract (unfortunately) but I make an alright muse.

Bout damn time