Weird crimp on 223 brass

[DenverGP]

Spotted these unusual looking primer crimps when prepping some 223 brass.

Safe to swage and reload, or just throw them into the scrap bucket?

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[Irving]

Are they a specific brand of brass?

[DenverGP]

it's range pickup, so no idea what kinda ammo it started as.

On closer inspection, looks like Lake City 14 brass.

Apparently it's called a "Staked crimp".

Found this pic of some others with similar crimps:
http://thefirearmsforum.s3.amazonaws.com/2013/09/148275_4d6712024a1119969a962d8abfd23c14.jpg

[rondog]

Ain't nothing wrong with it, just Lake City military brass with a modern staked primer crimp. Cut it out or swage just as you would any other crimped primer pockets. Got thousands of them.

[thedave1164]

Ain't nothing wrong with it, just Lake City military brass with a modern staked primer crimp. Cut it out or swage just as you would any other crimped primer pockets. Got thousands of them.

This, except I don't have thousands of them :(

[rondog]

This, except I don't have thousands of them :(

I'm a member at Ben Lomond Gun Club, and people leave 5.56/.223 brass laying everywhere. I'm a sucker for free brass and shiny things, so I always gather up everything that's reloadable. Some I use, some I sell, some I trade, and some I just give away to others.

[brutal]

I'm a member at Ben Lomond Gun Club, and people leave 5.56/.223 brass laying everywhere. I'm a sucker for free brass and shiny things, so I always gather up everything that's reloadable. Some I use, some I sell, some I trade, and some I just give away to others.

Me too, and I don't get there nearly as often as I'd like these days.

Hell, I barrel dive for rifle brass. People dump 300 WinMag, etc.

However, I could do without picking up people's damn shotshells every damn time I use those berms. F**kn slobs.

[Great-Kazoo]

If you don't have one of these as part of your range accoutrements , go buy one.

https://www.amazon.com/AmmoBroom-Pistol-Rifle-Brass-Collector/dp/B0070LDKTU

The range i belong to a good 40% reload, so there's a reason brass is left on the ground. Sure i'll grab the shiny stuff, but it's become more of a clean up than ohh i scored some brass.

[rondog]

If you don't have one of these as part of your range accoutrements , go buy one.

https://www.amazon.com/AmmoBroom-Pistol-Rifle-Brass-Collector/dp/B0070LDKTU

The range i belong to a good 40% reload, so there's a reason brass is left on the ground. Sure i'll grab the shiny stuff, but it's become more of a clean up than ohh i scored some brass.

Got one, but mine is a Brass Mower, I believe. Works freakin' awesome!

My new 2014 Silverado has a built-in AC power outlet in the dash, and I have a "Stinger" mini-shopvac. I'm going to try using the vac at the range when I encounter a shitload of pistol brass leftover from classes or competitions. Might work, might just be a PITA - but worth a try.

I also take a big bar magnet on a pole to pick up as much of that fucking steel-cased shit that people seem to think they're entitled to just leave everywhere. That really pisses me off. If you want to shoot that stuff, more power to ya. But be a civilized human and pick it up! It's just trash, and is the same as littering. The magnet is $10 at Home Depot, buy one and make it part of your range gear kit. PLEASE!!!

[Colorado Osprey]

Range brass pick up is always a good hobby, but other reloaders may have left brass behind because it may have many hot loads though it and don't trust it any more. Some ranges have buckets for old brass nest to the shooting stations. I know personally I don't load my 300 win mag brass more than 4 times. 308 I can usually get about 8 loads. It is tough to tell how many times a piece of brass has been shot in range pick ups. When I pick up range brass you can inspect them for factory crimp seals on many factory loads or by looking into empty brass to see the amount of carbon left that is difficult to remove even when tumbling and cleaning brass between loads could tell you if it is old used brass. You can always sell the old brass as scrap brass if you think it has been over used.

[brutal]

Range brass pick up is always a good hobby, but other reloaders may have left brass behind because it may have many hot loads though it and don't trust it any more. Some ranges have buckets for old brass nest to the shooting stations. I know personally I don't load my 300 win mag brass more than 4 times. 308 I can usually get about 8 loads. It is tough to tell how many times a piece of brass has been shot in range pick ups. When I pick up range brass you can inspect them for factory crimp seals on many factory loads or by looking into empty brass to see the amount of carbon left that is difficult to remove even when tumbling and cleaning brass between loads could tell you if it is old used brass. You can always sell the old brass as scrap brass if you think it has been over used.

I get what you're saying.

Much of what I grab also has the factory box in the berm barrel. 20 rds brass, just have to put it in the box.

On the odd occasion I've actually picked up 300WinMag, that's been that case, and they appear to be fresh factory once fired brass. I don't run 300WinMag so I usually give them to friends that do load and let them know where they came from.

[rondog]

On the odd occasion I've actually picked up 300WinMag, that's been that case, and they appear to be fresh factory once fired brass. I don't run 300WinMag so I usually give them to friends that do load and let them know where they came from.

Same here. I find .300WM and 7mmRM a lot, and it's usually quite obvious it's brand new. I also find it hard to believe that any reloader would be so irresponsible to just throw worn out brass on the ground for someone else to pick up. You'd have to be a real asshole to do that. Of course, brass that's been reloaded a few times can certainly get lost. I've found brass before that I was sure had been restuffed at least once.

[spqrzilla]

Same here. I find .300WM and 7mmRM a lot, and it's usually quite obvious it's brand new.

I try to stake out who those fabulously wealthy guys are, and see if they are looking to adopt or have pretty daughters to marry.

[TheBelly]

I'll usually pick up just about any brass, but I won't pick up brass with that crimp on it.

That staking mark is from the new-ish M855A1. There's a reason it's staked like that; It's loaded pretty stoutly. If there's any case-head weakness, it may show itself if you also load it hot. Being military brass, I'd expect it to have a slightly lower case capacity than a regular piece of civilian brass. Less case capacity may have a higher importance due to the smaller overall case capacity of a 5.56 case.