View Full Version : Sure seems quiet today
Drove into work in record time - didn't see anyone on their cell phones, or tailgating me for miles
The office is really quiet, except for the break-room where there were a couple of guys trying to figure out the coffee machine.
Wish I had a sandwich.
Odd, but eerily peaceful.
beast556
03-08-2017, 09:45
"Wish I had a sandwich" I see what you did there.
Great-Kazoo
03-08-2017, 09:45
Woman are making a statement today. Or the sensitive ones are, the ones who have dignity and self worth are not.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/07/a-day-without-a-woman-protest/
Bait looks tasty.
I predict a lock.
Does this mean planned parenthood is closed today?
So... when is the "Day Without Men" scheduled?
Does this mean planned parenthood is closed today?
No, murdering babies never stops.
So... when is the "Day Without Men" scheduled?
ROFL! Imagine how many unopened jars there would be.
GilpinGuy
03-08-2017, 10:03
No, murdering babies never stops.
Hey, they gotta make budget.
Just a taste of the Hearing Protection Act in place.
GilpinGuy
03-08-2017, 10:28
^^^^^[LOL]
Looks like FaceBook stock is going up, while paint and body shops are taking a nosedive.
Cats and dogs living together...[panic]
Hey, they gotta make budget. [Beer]
All 3 of the women at my work showed up
Pretty much a normal day here.
But this place is pretty much a sausage festival anyways.
fitterjohn
03-08-2017, 11:31
Woman are making a statement today. Or the sensitive ones are, the ones who have dignity and self worth are not.
http://www.denverpost.com/2017/03/07/a-day-without-a-woman-protest/
The girl friend told me that last night, trying to figure out how not doing your job helps your case
Does this mean planned parenthood is closed today?
My wife asked the same thing this morning!!!
I don't think Moloch takes days off. I could be wrong.
Those women must be hanging around with the wrong kinds of men. Seems selfish for me to take a day off while my husband is busting his hump to support our family. I will make sure to cook a great dinner for him tonight.
IBTL, HAHAHAAH! Hilarious.
cmailliard
03-08-2017, 12:57
"Wish I had a sandwich" I see what you did there.
Went to Jimmy Johns for lunch, got a sammich from two lovely ladies.
Now the post from JeffCo Schools makes more sense, people were asking if schools were closed because of teacher absences, I had no idea why.
Good job, teachers. Closed down schools and forced working parents to scramble for daycare. Brilliant.
Good job, teachers. Closed down schools and forced working parents to scramble for daycare. Brilliant.
Not a problem if moms were at home.
Martinjmpr
03-08-2017, 13:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WatQeG5fMU
Good job, teachers. Closed down schools and forced working parents to scramble for daycare. Brilliant.
Not my two schools, all the women are here. Course neither we, nor the kids, could afford to take a day off! HA!
Not all teachers are idiots.
So... when is the "Day Without Men" scheduled?
Can you imagine?
Every man sleeps in till 0600, sits in their chairs reading the paper, smoking a cigar, watching Clint Eastwood and Steve McQueen movies till 1200, cancels all his bills and spending for just that one day, takes a nap till 1500, wakes up to finish the 18 pack of beer, eats two steaks, two baked potatoes, a pound of bacon, 5th of Whiskey, and a gallon of ice cream apeice, does 1,000 push-ups, then goes to bed at 2200 so they can wake up and go back to work..... Making America Great Again.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
ROFL! Imagine how many unopened jars there would be.
I'm trying to imagine how many extra sammiches could get made if they're all staying home today.
I had no idea.. no wonder my day is so smooth
So... when is the "Day Without Men" scheduled?
Isn't that usually one, maybe two, Sundays a month? Ya know, when there is no yard work or honey-dos?
My wife went to work today- all the women that I work with showed up today... Wonder how many FTAs they had in court today...
http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Screen-Shot-2017-03-08-at-7.00.23-PM.png
[ROFL1]
I saw today where a huge number of teachers didn’t come in. So I guess, the teachers that identify as female felt compelled to protest the inequality of women. Sounds to me like the teacher’s union must not being doing their job to extort equality, they should be protesting union dues.
Also, I heard the news report that the teachers identifying as female comprised 73% of all teachers. It sounds like the repressed minority of 27% male teachers should be demanding a female teacher hiring freeze, for equality’s sake.
If women have it so bad why not just claim to be a man and get more money?
Nothing appeared different where I work. I had no idea this was going on until I read it here.
I have no idea what the objective of this 'silent' march was; nor did I know anyone involved. To me, it smacks of a hammer looking for a nail.
...and I made sure my hubby had his sammie ready for him to take to work. :)
I have no idea what the objective of this 'silent' arch was; nor did I know anyone involved. To me, it smacks of a hammer looking for a nail.
...and I made sure my hubby had his sammie ready for him to take to work. :)
You sound like a 'team player' to me. Not a thing wrong with that. [Awesom]
Isn't that usually one, maybe two, Sundays a month? Ya know, when there is no yard work or honey-dos?
My wife went to work today- all the women that I work with showed up today... Wonder how many FTAs they had in court today...
Wait.... a weekend without a honey-do list? What's that?
I have had something on the list consistently since we closed on the house in November. Still have PLENTY to do if you're bored. Haha
theGinsue
03-08-2017, 22:01
All other things being equal (background, education, ability, experience...), I do believe that women deserve equal pay for equal work. Do I believe this isn't always the case? Yes, and I believe in those cases it should he corrected. I also recognize that a 24 yo woman with a bachelors and 2 years experience shouldn't expect the same pay as a male with the same level of degree and 10 years of experience.
I went without lunch today. My wife didn't make me anything and there is no dinner prepared yet. Of course, when I have a lunch to take, I always make it myself and prepare dinner about 3/4 of the time. I also do my own laundry and do the dishes about 50% of the time (even when I don't do the dishes I ensure my items are well rinsed). Sure, I hate vacuuming and general household cleaning, but I am the toilet cleaner in our home 100% of the time (mostly because I'm the one fouling them the most).
Both my wife and I work outside of the home. While I account for about 75% of our annual income, we both contribute and I believe it should be the same at home. I know there are still lots of households where the woman is expected to take care of the home, imcluding meals, but this is becoming less common.
What I'm getting at is while there is still some inequality towards women, it's more of the exception than the norn these days. I believe TheGrey is correct that these protests are more of a hammer looking for a nail than the other way around. Equality doesn't mean getting the same as someone else without putting forth the same effort. So instead of protesting and crying for equality these women need to follow the 80% (estimated) of women who aren't protesting and go earn it.
ETA: I failed to mention that I do all of the yard work,and home & auto maintenance. This helps equal out some of my lack of vacuuming & dusting.
ETAA: My wife disagreed that I cook 75% of the evening meals. She is now eating a 2 egg omlet with cheese, green pepper and onion, and avacado on the side (her choice of meal). I prepared hers first, mine is still cooking. Anyone see the irony? For the record, we eat dinner late a couple of times a week as she doesn't get home from work until almost 9pm. Gawd I love marriage.
http://www.weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Screen-Shot-2017-03-08-at-7.00.23-PM.png
[ROFL1]
I thought that shit was fake..... NOPE
https://mobile.twitter.com/womensmarch/status/839526756856000512
Wow
I always just assumed that women were paid the same, but I know of several instances where women were not paid the same while doing the same job, with the same, and sometimes even more skill set/experience. That was the case when I was a young adjuster. Everyone was buddy buddy and how much we were each paid was never a secret for long. A lot of the women threw a fit when they found out they were making less than the guys. Especially the ones that were bi-lingual (white, college educated). I think it's more rampant than men assume.
I didn't know today was a thing, and am not making a comment on that part of it, because I honestly don't care and view this much like people on MySpace back in the day spreading the word to "don't buy gas on Tuesday, that'll show 'em!!!" Just pointing out that I always assumed people were paid the same (especially in entry level positions) until I found out that they weren't.
GilpinGuy
03-08-2017, 22:13
Shit, I do 90% of the cooking in our house...and I love it. I also do 100% of the oil changes and vehicle maint. & repairs, house repairs, wood cutting/splitting/hauling/stacking, trash hauling to the dump, gardening, bird care, etc. Oh yeah, I open lots of jars too.
I'm not sure what these "protests" were for either. Just another "look at me! I'm important!" attempt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcDrE5YvqTs
Boom
OctopusHighball
03-09-2017, 10:56
Can you imagine?
Every man sleeps in till 0600, sits in their chairs reading the paper, smoking a cigar, watching Clint Eastwood and Steve McQueen movies till 1200, cancels all his bills and spending for just that one day, takes a nap till 1500, wakes up to finish the 18 pack of beer, eats two steaks, two baked potatoes, a pound of bacon, 5th of Whiskey, and a gallon of ice cream apeice, does 1,000 push-ups, then goes to bed at 2200 so they can wake up and go back to work..... Making America Great Again.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Sounds like March 14th, which is "Steak and a BJ Day" as a counter to Valentine's Day.
Of course, if you marry right, every day is Steak and a BJ Day.
Martinjmpr
03-09-2017, 14:31
Sounds like March 14th, which is "Steak and a BJ Day" as a counter to Valentine's Day.
Of course, if you marry right, every day is Steak and a BJ Day.
Gay marriage, right? [ROFL1]
NTTAWTT....
Great-Kazoo
03-09-2017, 15:15
Sounds like March 14th, which is "Steak and a BJ Day" as a counter to Valentine's Day.
Of course, if you marry right, every day is Steak and a BJ Day.
Unless they surprise you with pork;)
I always just assumed that women were paid the same, but I know of several instances where women were not paid the same while doing the same job, with the same, and sometimes even more skill set/experience. That was the case when I was a young adjuster. Everyone was buddy buddy and how much we were each paid was never a secret for long. A lot of the women threw a fit when they found out they were making less than the guys. Especially the ones that were bi-lingual (white, college educated). I think it's more rampant than men assume.
I didn't know today was a thing, and am not making a comment on that part of it, because I honestly don't care and view this much like people on MySpace back in the day spreading the word to "don't buy gas on Tuesday, that'll show 'em!!!" Just pointing out that I always assumed people were paid the same (especially in entry level positions) until I found out that they weren't.
That sounds like an issue between the employer and the employee... not the business of the government to regulate. But I dunno, I've never worked a job where everyone isn't paid equally based on gender- if there is a difference in pay it's usually due to factors like experience, time in position, quality of work, attendance, sick time used, education, etc.
That sounds like an issue between the employer and the employee... not the business of the government to regulate. But I dunno, I've never worked a job where everyone isn't paid equally based on gender- if there is a difference in pay it's usually due to factors like experience, time in position, quality of work, attendance, sick time used, education, etc.
That's what I always assumed, until I started discussing rates with females that were hired at the same time, or before me, had equal/better qualifications, and definitely performed better than I did. I wasn't a great employee back then.
Also, I very much doubt you knew what everyone else was paid (I knew a few, but not most), so it'd sure be easy for you to assume that everyone was paid equally. That's pretty much the whole entire issue women are trying to raise. Men don't know and don't care so they just assume women are being "needy" or "whining."
People don't want equal pay for equal work, because that would mean their pay would fluctuate from a baseline up and down -- how that gets measured is arguable. Sheer numbers or complicated = less numbers acceptable for equal credit?
KPI's are crappy in my opinion; they're the product of MBA's and other Managerial types who wouldn't know a doohickey from a doodad half the time. I've seen the work people put out when they are going for quantity and not quality -- but muh KPI's! On my old team (virtual), our sister team elsewhere had "rockstars" in the manager's eyes. Their work was utter crap -- it's still crap after I surpassed them in technical terms and moved up (I have to deal with their tickets they kick on). On my old team, I was consistently in the top 10 across the entire team (only one in that bracket from COS) and my work was good. It was how I got into this current position without an interview -- current guys I now work with loved getting my tickets, and they rarely got them because I was doing tier 2 and sometimes tier 3 solutions at a tier 1 position. I'm now in a tier 2 and constantly finding ways to not kick things to tier 3. I tried yesterday, and tier 3 sent it back and said they couldn't do anything and the customer would just have to live with it (I'd already done everything they would do without violating DISA STIGS).
I'm the 2nd highest paid person on my team in COS, the highest paid being a former USAF Network Engineer/Computer tech who has like 9 years experience in our position; his work output is 1/3 of mine on average -- are his tickets harder? I dunno, I only see the numbers. I'm the only one with a degree (Associates) -- does that make me better? Probably not, since degrees are largely worthless except for getting better pay. I'm the most productive on the COS team last I knew, though that could change if I get some hard ones and someone else gets a slew of easy ones. Our counterparts elsewhere get paid 5-10k more a year than we do, often do less work, and their cost of living is lower -- should I bitch? In a liberal world, yes. However, I agreed to do this job for X pay and I'm sticking to that. Between salar+med retirement from the Army/VA, I still make more than our folks elsewhere.
On my first team in the IT field, we had two women. Both were paid like $7/hr more than I was and they were not good at all. They simply had time in the job. We have two women on our team I'm on now. One is new, so it's hard to say if she will be worth it. The other is not worth it -- 1 good tech was let go because of her and while I cannot prove it, I'm convinced she lied to get him fired. I don't miss him because I liked him (I didn't). I miss him because he did the work of 2 of her. I can think of 1 or 2 guys who aren't worth it either -- low work output and they complain about workload.
Generally, when I've worked with women, they're either lackluster or horrible. Every once in a while a real gem is a coworker, but it's rare.
Not sure why, but it might be because of a numbers game -- more men work in this field than women. However, the rockstar women on other teams are definitely rockstar. There's one who, if I could just sit and listen to her talk about all the things she's forgotten, I would learn more than I ever learned in a class or from a book.
Women I've worked with usually get by in an average manner of quality by simply asking for the answer. The guys do a lot of their "heavy lifting" and they just regurgitate the answer as given. This is fine for a person new to a team and still learning the team and its tasks -- especially since our documentation is awful. After 3 months it becomes unacceptable. 6 months or a year is atrocious. One woman on my old team was not that technically good, but it was a totally customer facing position and she had the gift of gab. She knows everyone in the building. I treat her well because she has a gift with people and she's old enough to be my mother. She serves a purpose people like myself could not. I don't care about your day, I don't care about your puppy's picture on your desktop and I certainly am not going to spend anytime making you feel good about the fact you did the dumb. She does all that. Teams, even technical teams, need someone like her.
Point of all this is that no one gets paid equally except in certain situations, like the military -- and even that is not equal because time in rank/service, marital status, etc. has an effect.
Equal pay for equal work is a fantasy. No one works equally. Some get "underpaid" and some get massively overpaid. At the end of the day, if a person agrees to do X job for X pay, that's it. End of story. Anything else is simply an inroad for liberalism.
[1] The kingdom of heaven is like to an householder, who went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. [2] And having agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. [3] And going out about the third hour, he saw others standing in the market place idle. [4] And he said to them: Go you also into my vineyard, and I will give you what shall be just. [5] And they went their way. And again he went out about the sixth and the ninth hour, and did in like manner.
[6] But about the eleventh hour he went out and found others standing, and he saith to them: Why stand you here all the day idle? [7] They say to him: Because no man hath hired us. He saith to them: Go you also into my vineyard. [8] And when evening was come, the lord of the vineyard saith to his steward: Call the labourers and pay them their hire, beginning from the last even to the first. [9] When therefore they were come, that came about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. [10] But when the first also came, they thought that they should receive more: and they also received every man a penny.
[11] And receiving it they murmured against the master of the house, [12] Saying: These last have worked but one hour, and thou hast made them equal to us, that have borne the burden of the day and the heats. [13] But he answering said to one of them: Friend, I do thee no wrong: didst thou not agree with me for a penny? [14] Take what is thine, and go thy way: I will also give to this last even as to thee. [15] Or, is it not lawful for me to do what I will? is thy eye evil, because I am good? Matthew 20, Douay-Rheims Bible
That's what I always assumed, until I started discussing rates with females that were hired at the same time, or before me, had equal/better qualifications, and definitely performed better than I did. I wasn't a great employee back then.
Also, I very much doubt you knew what everyone else was paid (I knew a few, but not most), so it'd sure be easy for you to assume that everyone was paid equally. That's pretty much the whole entire issue women are trying to raise. Men don't know and don't care so they just assume women are being "needy" or "whining."
True- I don't know what most make among those I work with. And the women I work with (granted we work for the government) don't complain about being paid less than their male counterparts because everyone started at the same pay rate, once you get your first evaluation that's where the divergence comes in. Other jobs, it was a sort of "None of my business" thing. Again, what people are paid (not sure if you can do pre-employment research on pay) is between them and their employer. The gubment has no business telling a business what someone's work is worth.
That's always the crux. I'll tell you though, if you just assume that people are making up a discrepancy, it's more likely that you're just uninformed. I'm not saying that to be rude. It might not be common, but it certainly exists in our work places. I can't really add that much more to the conversation though because I neither employ anyone, nor feel that I'm discriminated against.
I don't discuss what I make with anyone but my employer and my wife. I've found that discussing wages with co-workers does nothing but get you or the other person wound-up. Whatever my co-workers make was negotiated between them and my employer. It's none of my business. What I make is none of their business.
I don't discuss what I make with anyone but my employer and my wife. I've found that discussing wages with co-workers does nothing but get you or the other person wound-up. Whatever my co-workers make was negotiated between them and my employer. It's none of my business. What I make is none of their business.
This makes everything better for everyone. The employers sure appreciate it.
For my services, the Govt pays my employer 4 times what my employer pays me.
The woman I share an office with makes 1/3 more than I do for the same position. However, she's been with the company for 30 years and I have 4 years.
These facts were unknown to me when I accepted the position.
As Cav posted, I get paid exactly what I was told I would be paid when I took the job - plus annual raises.
Great-Kazoo
03-09-2017, 22:24
I don't discuss what I make with anyone but my employer and my wife. I've found that discussing wages with co-workers does nothing but get you or the other person wound-up. Whatever my co-workers make was negotiated between them and my employer. It's none of my business. What I make is none of their business.
Agree. The ones who push it at work, are the ones you try avoiding. As they seem to be the ones always stirring shit up Because they are not appreciated by the manager.
Fascinating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4300564/Man-switches-names-female-coworker-week.html
btw, that chick is cute -- why would anyone be rude to her!? I'll have to send this to my sis-in-law. She's an IT recruiter who works a lot with Indians. I wonder if she has experienced this.
Fascinating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4300564/Man-switches-names-female-coworker-week.html
btw, that chick is cute -- why would anyone be rude to her!? I'll have to send this to my sis-in-law. She's an IT recruiter who works a lot with Indians. I wonder if she has experienced this.
Perhaps she should include her photo in her signature line.
I receive job notices almost daily. I usually delete the ones that are written poorly - often by a recruiter who's first language is not English. If I'm not busy, I sometimes reply with a poorly written response. It amuses me.
I respond favorably to the ones that are written well, no matter the gender or name origin of the recruiter.
Fascinating: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-4300564/Man-switches-names-female-coworker-week.html
btw, that chick is cute -- why would anyone be rude to her!? I'll have to send this to my sis-in-law. She's an IT recruiter who works a lot with Indians. I wonder if she has experienced this.
A female coworker and friend has experienced blatant dismissive and rude behaviour, mostly from off-shore males, in several accounts. So much so in one very large, top tier financial services provider, that she now refuses any project assignments for that client.
While she does have a bit of a chip on her shoulder and can be less than tactful at times with both clients and coworkers, she is far superior technically to most of her peer coworkers. I think some of the attitude comes from her past treatment and she tends to be very rigid to the point of it coming across as "coldness" or even dismissiveness on her part as well. I believe the whole experience bubble she has endured has made her somewhat jaded and bitter and it can sometimes show through.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQJ6i1hlBr0
I think more than anything, the pay difference can be attributed to differences in assertiveness between employees.... Their individual level of assertiveness, and willingness to ask for or negotiate wages when they started, has a tremendous impact over time.
Martinjmpr
03-10-2017, 16:38
I think more than anything, the pay difference can be attributed to differences in assertiveness between employees.... Their individual level of assertiveness, and willingness to ask for or negotiate wages when they started, has a tremendous impact over time.
I think you may be on to something....
WASHINGTON—After decades spent battling gender discrimination and inequality in the workplace, the feminist movement underwent a high-level shake-up last month, when 53-year-old management consultant Peter "Buck" McGowan took over as new chief of the worldwide initiative for women's rights.
McGowan, who now oversees the group's day-to-day operations, said he "couldn't be happier" to bring his ambition, experience, and no-nonsense attitude to his new role as the nation's top feminist.
"All the feminist movement needed to do was bring on someone who had the balls to do something about this glass ceiling business," said McGowan, who quickly closed the 23.5 percent gender wage gap by "making a few calls to the big boys upstairs." "In the world of gender identity and empowered female sexuality, it's all about who you know."
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"You can't waste time pussyfooting around with protests and getting all emotional about a bunch of irrelevant details," McGowan said. "If you want to enjoy equal rights, you have to have a real man-to-man chat with the people in charge until you can hammer out some more equitable custody laws."
"And don't get me started on how disorganized and scatterbrained their old fundraising methods were," McGowan added. "Let's just say the movement never really had a head for numbers."
http://www.theonion.com/article/man-finally-put-in-charge-of-struggling-feminist-m-2338
I don't discuss what I make with anyone but my employer and my wife. I've found that discussing wages with co-workers does nothing but get you or the other person wound-up. Whatever my co-workers make was negotiated between them and my employer. It's none of my business. What I make is none of their business.
Well said!
...I get paid exactly what I was told I would be paid when I took the job - plus annual raises.
This says it all. If you didn't like the pay when you were offered the job, why did you take the job? Who cares what others make, prove to the boss you deserve a raise.
This is just a way to further the socialist agenda. I am frankly shocked that any women actually feel that they still aren't being treated fairly in the work place. Many of you have brought up great points explaining how complicated pay rates are based on the many factors that affect them. The government would only make a mess of things trying to regulate it. If you don't like the way you are treated or payed, get a better job, or make yourself worth the pay you want. What is there to protest about?
Absolutely true, and for everyone. I finally found a job I liked and was good at, but I didn't like the pay. So I got another one.
cmailliard
03-13-2017, 08:25
This is difficult for me, I have never had a job were pay was handled like this. All my jobs were based on position and seniority. The only one that had any wiggle room was a teacher, but that was only because the Principal fought to get us the most money he could (school vs other schools). Other than that I have never seen this, as a course of my jobs. As a Firefighter it was all rank, years, and special things (HazMat, etc.). As a contractor I make what I make based on effort and quality of work.
Personally, all things being equal (time, skills, performance, etc.) everyone should receive the same pay. However, as others have said, it is like eBay. The value of something is the value of something. If your soon to be employer offers you $40,000 but you think you are worth $50,000 you may keep looking. You may find you are not actually worth $50,000 because you have not found someone willing to pay that. Value fluctuates for many reasons and what one person was hired at, may not be the same a year from now.
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This is really the issue, right? I hope we see more women dropping out of "feminism" since what is happening with it isn't actually good for women or men.
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This is really the issue, right? I hope we see more women dropping out of "feminism" since what is happening with it isn't actually good for women or men.
It's horrible for women. Everything feminists are bitching about now is an artifact of women have more freedom/choice than men.
More women in college
More women pursuing soft majors vs STEM
Women working shorter days
Women spending less aggregate time in the workforce
Women retiring before men
Women living longer than men
No fault divorce so women can violate their commitments at any time and for any reason
Men getting drafted
Men pay more in taxes
Men getting reamed in court on spousal support/child support
Men unable to opt out of parenthood post-conception
Men having less access to healthcare while costs are equalized
Fewer social "safety nets" for men, even single fathers in need
I'm all for equality! Let's make everything perfectly equal. Do feminists have idea what that would mean?
"I'm all for equality! Let's make everything perfectly equal. Do feminists have idea what that would mean?"
That would totally suck for women Skip, tell you the truth. You are right about all of this. We need to turn it around a bit. The battle of the sexes has gotten way out of hand.
Just because a few people out there believe we should be antagonistic toward one another because we are different from one another doesn't mean they are right or that we should believe them. I would hate living in a world full of people like me. I would hate to live in a world without people who are different. Because we are different, we can do more than if we were the same. If you are doing your thing, and I am doing my thing, lets see how we can make what we are doing better. It seems to be so much more productive than me focusing on how you being different from me makes me feel bad about myself.
Be safe.
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