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Shooter45
03-11-2017, 13:09
Photos of Russian SF in Syria from Ak Operators Union.
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beast556
03-11-2017, 15:12
Cool picture's, seems like there SF guys prefer x39 only one has a 5.54.
hurley842002
03-11-2017, 15:16
Cool picture's, seems like there SF guys prefer x39 only one has a 5.54.
Good call on the x39
.455_Hunter
03-11-2017, 15:17
What sidearm are they carrying?
Shooter45
03-12-2017, 19:18
I think it's a MP-443 Grach
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MP-443_Grach
Cool picture's, seems like there SF guys prefer x39 only one has a 5.54.
You guys are confusing me. I thought all Russia had was x39. I can see by the curve in the mags that they likely are using 7.62x39 and I don’t see any mags with the more gradual curve of the 5.45x39. However, I’m not familiar with this 5.54 you’re talking about. I would agree that they definitely have a something x39.
beast556
03-15-2017, 19:20
You guys are confusing me. I thought all Russia had was x39. I can see by the curve in the mags that they likely are using 7.62x39 and I don’t see any mags with the more gradual curve of the 5.45x39. However, I’m not familiar with this 5.54 you’re talking about. I would agree that they definitely have a something x39.
Get with the times man, 554 is Russia's new deplete uranium tipped round in the 40 watt range. �� I did mean 5.45, the guy on the left in the third pict appears to have a 5.45 rifle.
hurley842002
03-15-2017, 19:27
Get with the times man, 554 is Russia's new deplete uranium tipped round in the 40 watt range.
Lol
I think you may be right, what’s throwing me off is the guy in the middle of the third pic may have a 40rd mag.
Here’s a pic of my 7.62 with a 30rd and my 5.45 with a 30. Slight difference in the curves is subtle but definitely there.
Guys see those cans on the end. You can't suppress 5.45 very well. That is the only reason for 7.62x39.
cfortune
03-23-2017, 22:50
Guys see those cans on the end. You can't suppress 5.45 very well. That is the only reason for 7.62x39.
Appears one guy has a 5.45 rifle with a can on it in the 3rd picture. That or whatever muzzle device he is using goes half-way up his front sight. I was also pleasantly surprised how well my SLR104 ran suppressed. Much quieter than I expected it to be, especially with a 30 cal suppressor.
beast556
03-25-2017, 17:07
Guys see those cans on the end. You can't suppress 5.45 very well. That is the only reason for 7.62x39.
Personally I would choose x39 it hits way harder and penetrates barriers way better. Imho from what I have seen x39 suppresses just fine.
Would it not also be a consideration of local ammo availability, in case they had need? Not sure how much 5.45 proliferation is in Syria, but 7.62x39 is a known attainable.
wctriumph
03-25-2017, 21:55
Looking at the pic's I get the impression, with the wide variety of gear and guns that the photos are from some sort of advertising campaign catalog.
Great-Kazoo
03-25-2017, 23:27
Looking at the pic's I get the impression, with the wide variety of gear and guns that the photos are from some sort of advertising campaign catalog.
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osok-308
03-26-2017, 22:28
Would it not also be a consideration of local ammo availability, in case they had need? Not sure how much 5.45 proliferation is in Syria, but 7.62x39 is a known attainable.
It could just be weapons choice (if they're given a choice). Kinda like how a lot of spec op guys will opt for the .45 even though 9mm is the caliber of choice of the military. Just a thought. I'm sure it's a multifaceted answer. Maybe it's that, plus suppression, plus ammo availability, etc.
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