View Full Version : Study: 4-in-5 Oklahoma City students can’t read clocks
My friends, it's the beginning of the end. 4 of 5 OKC kids can't read clocks.
http://kfor.com/2017/03/12/study-4-in-5-oklahoma-city-students-cant-read-clocks/
How many also know how to tie their own shoes, write their name, or have memorized their home address? These, in addition to knowing how to tell the time, were all skills we were expected to know before we were in kindergarten. This is a parenting fail. Don't even try to blame it on the schools.
Why do they need clocks?
Siri will tell them everything they need to know.
http://i.imgur.com/ury1jvJ.jpg
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JohnnyEgo
03-14-2017, 19:42
Embarrassing, but true. I didn't learn how to instinctively tell analog time until I was 30. My father bought me a digital watch when I was five, and I never looked back. When I turned 30, I bought my first analog watch, and it took me about a month to be able to accurately determine the time at a glance without counting by fives.
My son knows his own address, and has been typing emails since he was 3. His shoes are Velcro. His penmanship is atrocious, but he can recite to you the order of all the keys on each row of the keyboard. I consider that a parenting win.
theGinsue
03-14-2017, 21:03
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As sad as it is, this is just another victim of living in a digital world now. It'll be up to old timers like all of us to ensure we teach the soon-to-be lost arts, like reading an analog clock, to the youth. One day such information could save their life.
jhood001
03-14-2017, 21:52
I think this is more of an issue of us older folks making it about 'us' rather than about 'them'.
Our minds have a funny habit of ignoring things we don't use.
Is anyone around here bummed out that next to nobody can still write in shorthand?
The keyboard made shorthand irrelevant. The digital clock made the analog clock irrelevant.
If the power ever goes out for an extended amount of time, the majority of analog clocks will go with it. And learning an analog clock at that point will probably come pretty quick to these ignorant little bastards that grew up in a time different than our own.
Especially when almost everything they have ever known will be gone and they'll have a heck of a lot of time on their hands to learn something a child masters in a couple of days.
We date and debilitate ourselves when we start viewing the world under the mind-set of 'remember when'.
BushMasterBoy
03-14-2017, 21:55
In the sixth grade, I stared at the clock more than anything.
I'm not surprised. I bet only 1-100 of those kids can shoe a horse. Pathetic.
^^THIS IS WRITTEN IN A FACETIOUS TONE^^
Grant H.
03-14-2017, 22:04
When I was in college, 13-ish years ago, the professor had to stop and explain an analog clock to a class room of 1400 students, because some decent portion didn't know what he meant when he talked about 12, 3, 6, and 9 in the room.
The sad thing?
This was Calculus based Physics for Engineers 1. First Semester class, but damn...
Great-Kazoo
03-14-2017, 22:35
Tell Time? Hardly if anyone can do math.
That will be $11.47 sir
Here's $15.52 And they freeze for a moment then say, sir it's only $11.47, you gave me to much.
What kind of goober wants four 1's and a Nickleback?
Great-Kazoo
03-14-2017, 22:57
What kind of goober wants four 1's and a Nickleback?
The one who has a ten & fivein them, that's who. Throw a few pennies into something that comes out to $0.07 and they go catatonic .
I've told this one before but bears repeating . The bank teller ask me how i'd like my money. Doesn't matter to me as long as they're in federal reserve notes.
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Iq5vMxKraf_U8xPYnUNu7QEsEs&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
Excuse me sir, i'm going to have to get my manager for that. I don't think we carry those.
The one who has a ten & fivein them, that's who. Throw a few pennies into something that comes out to $0.07 and they go catatonic .
I've told this one before but bears repeating . The bank teller ask me how i'd like my money. Doesn't matter to me as long as they're in federal reserve notes.
https://tse3.mm.bing.net/th?id=OIP.Iq5vMxKraf_U8xPYnUNu7QEsEs&pid=15.1&P=0&w=300&h=300
Excuse me sir, i'm going to have to get my manager for that. I don't think we carry those.
True story when I did field installs in banks.
We put in a new teller system (along with a new provider) that had some timing issues with the remit slip printers. Normally, they would do a transaction, drop the slip, it would detect insertion, and the computer/terminal/app would print. The new terminals were too fast for the old printers, which created a timing issue making the results inconsistent. Consequently, there was an option to enable a keypress to get them to print properly and reliably.
Now, the screen literally displayed, PRESS ANY KEY TO CONTINUE.
You guessed it. "Does it matter which key we press?"
To avoid any confusion, I told her to always press the space bar. Figured they couldn't miss that with their meat paws, and if they double tapped anything, it wouldn't cause a mess. She proudly and sternly told all the other tellers to, "Make sure you press the SPACEBAR only when this comes up." Not a one questioned the requirement.
GilpinGuy
03-15-2017, 06:04
Why tell them to press the spacebar when they're supposed to press the ANY key?
Why tell them to press the spacebar when they're supposed to press the ANY key?
Because it's in the empty spaces we find fulfillment, by the egalitarian openness of potential. Not bound by the constraints of "$", "k", or another key, the space key enables uniqueness and creativity. It is, in this sense, the "any" other key.
(go with it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdHK_r9RXTc
JohnnyEgo
03-15-2017, 07:37
This thread just keeps getting better.
Because it's in the empty spaces we find fulfillment, by the egalitarian openness of potential. Not bound by the constraints of "$", "k", or another key, the space key enables uniqueness and creativity. It is, in this sense, the "any" other key.
(go with it)
[snip]
How dare you assume I identify with single byte characters!!!
Great-Kazoo
03-15-2017, 08:18
How dare you assume I identify with single byte characters!!!
Sounds like the bias key needs some attention.
How dare you assume I identify with single byte characters!!!
In the interest of compressing the required output, one can only assume that for the greater good of all you simply set your own variables as needed.
$k?
Unfortunately driving a stick shift can get you killed.
http://abc13.com/news/carjacker-kills-man-because-car-isnt-automatic-transmission/1796915/
Martinjmpr
03-15-2017, 08:30
I don't know about the rest of you but I pretty much stopped memorizing phone numbers when I got my first cell phone in 1998. I have no idea what my brother or sister's phone number is but I call them all the time.
I remember my mother's phone number but that's because it hasn't changed since 1983.
It takes me a long time to read a dial clock even though I practiced hard. I had chicken pox for the first time when we were learning clocks in school and something about that fever screwed up the thought process.
The second time I had chicken pox we were learning long division, which I still can't do the way they want you to.
It takes me a long time to read a dial clock even though I practiced hard. I had chicken pox for the first time when we were learning clocks in school and something about that fever screwed up the thought process.
The second time I had chicken pox we were learning long division, which I still can't do the way they want you to.
....wait....
GilpinGuy
03-15-2017, 11:30
In other news.....
NY dropping teacher literacy test amid claims of racism (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/13/ny-dropping-teacher-literacy-test-amid-claims-racism.html)
In the sixth grade, I stared at the clock more than anything.
My sixth grade class had girls in it....
JohnnyEgo
03-15-2017, 13:06
I was not adversly effected by the presence of girls in 6th grade.
However, by 9th grade, the body suit was all the rage and on a good day, I could see Becky Goodman's bra through her sleeve hole when she raised her hand.
I repeated high school algebra 3 times.
Great-Kazoo
03-15-2017, 14:10
I was not adversly effected by the presence of girls in 6th grade.
However, by 9th grade, the body suit was all the rage and on a good day, I could see Becky Goodman's bra through her sleeve hole when she raised her hand.
I repeated high school algebra 3 times.
During my H.S senior year, the only math i was concerned with was 1+1 didn't end up equaling 3. Or she said to me.
I don't normally do this on the first date.
How dare you assume I identify with single byte characters!!!
Personally, I self identify as EBCDIC.
Sooo the Muslim kid clock maker REALLY WAS A GENIUS?
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Great-Kazoo
03-15-2017, 16:16
Sooo the Muslim kid clock maker REALLY WAS A GENIUS?
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
And a rich one too.
Personally, I self identify as EBCDIC.
So binary.
Sooo the Muslim kid clock maker REALLY WAS A GENIUS?
No, he used a digital clock. Probably couldn't figure out the whole big hand, little hand thing.
Well how else are the poor dears who sexually ID as Rambo going to go into transition if not for the brave work of this "gang"? The Spanish government certainly isn't going to recognize their right to Rambo.
No, he used a digital clock. Probably couldn't figure out the whole big hand, little hand thing.
Isn't that a Michael Jackson joke?
Well how else are the poor dears who sexually ID as Rambo going to go into transition if not for the brave work of this "gang"? The Spanish government certainly isn't going to recognize their right to Rambo.
So confused. I posted this in the Spanish gun gang thread.
GilpinGuy
03-15-2017, 18:33
Well how else are the poor dears who sexually ID as Rambo going to go into transition if not for the brave work of this "gang"? The Spanish government certainly isn't going to recognize their right to Rambo.
This sounds strangely familiar.
So confused. I posted this in the Spanish gun gang thread.
I was wondering....
Not only can I read a clock but I can write in cursive too.
Isn't cursive a foul language?
Asked my 12 year old about this and come to find out she has trouble reading an analog clock - has to count up by 5s or something.
The subject never came up before. I'll get her edumacated this summer for sure.
JohnnyDrama
03-15-2017, 20:59
In other news.....
NY dropping teacher literacy test amid claims of racism (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/13/ny-dropping-teacher-literacy-test-amid-claims-racism.html)
One of the more disturbing things about this is that I always thought one had to have at least a bachelor's degree and a certificate that usually takes another year of school to get a teacher's license. How do so many people make it through the system without a proficiency in English? Do they immigrate?
One of the more disturbing things about this is that I always thought one had to have at least a bachelor's degree and a certificate that usually takes another year of school to get a teacher's license. How do so many people make it through the system without a proficiency in English? Do they immigrate?
Hav u Ben 2 colege l8lee?
So confused. I posted this in the Spanish gun gang thread.
No you didn't. You posted it here. Then I stole it and posted it in the other thread.
Shit, try to find someone that can read a map......
DavieD55
03-16-2017, 05:27
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHtDF-z77wk
No you didn't. You posted it here. Then I stole it and posted it in the other thread.
Still confused. Where are my pants. What time is it?
Shit, try to find someone that can read a map......
https://img.ifcdn.com/images/fd8c707d42c42dea0cae31d93de0cd9ac893915a353691923f 1c02c9e104a1dd_1.jpg
Great-Kazoo
03-16-2017, 07:51
Shit, try to find someone that can read a map......
OR a phone book
OR a phone book
Sometimes, I lick my finger to help me flip through my contacts.
68Charger
03-16-2017, 08:51
Really want to mess with 'em?
I've got one of these:69637
https://www.amazon.com/Crystal-Powers-Direct-Binary-Silver/dp/B000YHO28U
TECHNICALLY, it's a digital clock [Coffee]
ColoradoTJ
03-16-2017, 09:22
I guess it is all in the curriculum of the school/parenting. My kids had to learn to read the analog clock time and were tested on it. This was done as of 3 weeks ago and my kid is in 2nd grade. I have another one in kindergarten and it is a requirement to be able to tie their own shoes.
Cursive writing skills? I could see this going away. Between phones and PC's, do we really need to teach cursive writing skills anymore? I personally write in a logbook every day at work, and we had to make a standard to print instead of cursive writing due to not being legible. I have even given back a prescription request from my doctors office due to the dribble that Doctors write down. I figure if I can't read it, how in the hell is a pharmasist going to and give me the correct medicine?
Things are going to change, that is a fact. Funny, but my oldest went out and purchased a pocket watch so she could learn to tell analog time. She enjoys it, and used the money she worked hard for to purchase the pocket watch.
It is interesting to see an older generation complain about knowledge in younger kids today (I include myself in this older generation). Kids today can't tell time on an analog clock, but can most likely hack into your bank account or personal PC without batting an eye. My 8 year old can go through my iPhone 6 and teach me things about it, and she doesn't even own one. Kind of interesting how we measure intelligence...
It is interesting to see an older generation complain about knowledge in younger kids today (I include myself in this older generation). Kids today can't tell time on an analog clock, but can most likely hack into your bank account or personal PC without batting an eye. My 8 year old can go through my iPhone 6 and teach me things about it, and she doesn't even own one. Kind of interesting how we measure intelligence...
Yup, it's very interesting to see what each generation see's as "intelligence". Kids today know electronics like the back of their hand but can't do some of the most basic stuff that most of us grew up knowing. We had a 19 year old helping fill in at my office for a bit. She laughed that we didnt have dual monitors but she couldn't address an envelope. Tech is great but it feels the next generation has put all their eggs in that basket and ignored everything that you can fall back on when tech goes out.
Circuits
03-16-2017, 10:24
to a class room of 1400 students
That's a shitload of students for one class. I don't believe I've ever been in a lecture hall that would hold that many... ;)
I run an analog wrist watch. Only part that sucks is when I forget to spring fwd a day on weird months and I end up thinking it's the wrong date.
BushMasterBoy
03-16-2017, 12:13
So much for check your six...
Cursive writing skills? I could see this going away.
I hope it does. There seems to be an indirect correlation between cursive legibility and number of post-graduate degrees a person has.
I didn't learn analog very well in school but figured it out eventually. It was one of the first things I taught my own kids and led into fractions which I thought was kind of cool. I think people probably need those kinds of skills still, but also a lot more tech than we used to need. I am not so good at teaching that. They usually teach me.
ColoradoTJ
03-16-2017, 15:12
I hope it does. There seems to be an indirect correlation between cursive legibility and number of post-graduate degrees a person has.
You may be on to something there....
ColoradoTJ
03-16-2017, 15:15
Yup, it's very interesting to see what each generation see's as "intelligence". Kids today know electronics like the back of their hand but can't do some of the most basic stuff that most of us grew up knowing. We had a 19 year old helping fill in at my office for a bit. She laughed that we didnt have dual monitors but she couldn't address an envelope. Tech is great but it feels the next generation has put all their eggs in that basket and ignored everything that you can fall back on when tech goes out.
I'm pretty sure any amount of electronics can't fix her problem.
Then again, maybe she never wrote a letter and sent it snail mail?
I had a friend in college who went to School of Mines and he couldn't address an envelope. Every month he'd hand his rent check to one of the other roommates to proofread for him. You can only mail the rent to yourself so many times before the other roommates start asking to check your mail.
Also, just because you've been taught something in school, doesn't mean much. We forget most of what we've been taught in school, especially when we don't use it. My daughter learned the analog stuff in school, but I haven't tested her to see if she can actually read a clock. Her school already dropped teaching cursive by the way. She wanted to learn so we bought her a cursive book and she taught herself.
Roman Numerals. I'm good up to 10, since I never watch the super bowl that's about it.
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
I had a friend in college who went to School of Mines and he couldn't address an envelope. Every month he'd hand his rent check to one of the other roommates to proofread for him. You can only mail the rent to yourself so many times before the other roommates start asking to check your mail.
Also, just because you've been taught something in school, doesn't mean much. We forget most of what we've been taught in school, especially when we don't use it. My daughter learned the analog stuff in school, but I haven't tested her to see if she can actually read a clock. Her school already dropped teaching cursive by the way. She wanted to learn so we bought her a cursive book and she taught herself.
That is the truth. There are a lot of things I am not sure if they didn't teach, or if I just wasn't paying attention. I did look out the window a lot. I just couldn't stand to sit inside all day.
I think of things that I learned in my profession during the training, then since I never used them in the field, I forget almost immediately. I'm going through this now. I'm trying to pick up where I left off with a skill from 1-3 years ago where the knowledge atrophied while I wasn't using it actively .
I think of things that I learned in my profession during the training, then since I never used them in the field, I forget almost immediately. I'm going through this now. I'm trying to pick up where I left off with a skill from 1-3 years ago where the knowledge atrophied while I wasn't using it actively .
I wouldn't feel bad about that at all. Everyone I know keeps a lot of books around for reference, even for fields they currently work in. I can hardly remember anything from the industry I used to work in. I would need a major review if I were to go back to it.
Grant H.
03-17-2017, 10:46
That's a shitload of students for one class. I don't believe I've ever been in a lecture hall that would hold that many... ;)
There are several lecture halls at CU that are big enough for classes that size, but they are mostly on the Engineering and Hard Sciences side of the campus. One of my friends who got an "Arts and Crafts" degree didn't believe me, so I took him over and showed him. Apparently none of his classes were that big.
Crap, even my Calc 1 lecture had 600 students in it.
Chem 1 for Engineers was also a 900-1000???ish lecture.
These all had much smaller lab/TA sessions, that would average 5-25 people to a TA.
Grant H.
03-17-2017, 10:51
I'm pretty sure any amount of electronics can't fix her problem.
Then again, maybe she never wrote a letter and sent it snail mail?
Probably the second option.
A handful of my friends thought I was an idiot for sending snail mail letters to my girlfriend/fiance when she lived in OK and I was here in CO. They all suggested technology, but a hand written letter is something special in that situation.
I went to a small baptist high school where they taught us how to mail a letter, something I had learned long ago being home schooled, and I had classmates that were like "I'll never use this"...
Personally, I don't care for digital clocks, but I'm getting used to them somewhat. I just grew up long before they came out, so I prefer analog clocks. I can glance at one and instantly know what time it is. I look at a digital and my brain still tries to convert the numbers to an analog clock face.
hurley842002
03-17-2017, 13:31
Eh, that's I have 12, 24, and analog time on my watch, takes the guess work out of it....
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