Joe_K
03-20-2017, 09:12
I recently started following another forum called Primary & Secondary. Most of the users and mods are current/prior/reserve/retired LE or .Mil types. Lots of great info, killing sacred cows industry folks from Raven, Safariland, Hodge Defense, SOLGW, Instructors like Steve Fisher, Aaron Cowan. It's that type of crowd.
Well in my sifting through all the pages of posts and watching some of their YouTube videos I became aware of a Handgun setup that isn't new or earth shattering but it does offer some advantages that other setups do not provide.
Rather than type it all out since I'm at work here's some pictures;
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/3a67317cf3e607cb35510986e1e42aca.jpg
The above would be "built to spec" Roland Special.
The idea is multifaceted, these are my thoughts on the subject and I'm a nobody when it comes to this sort of thing.
1.Why a Comp? It's only a 9mm!
For the same reasons comps are used on a rifle, faster splits, easier tracking of sights through recoil. Although with a 9mm there is little of the overpressure and ridiculous increase in concussive sound you get with say a 10.5" 5.56 carbine. With the KKM and similar comps used on these builds it brings a compact handguns overall length to roughly the length of a 5" 1911 or Glock 34. Also the comp keeps carbon buildup from occurring on the lens of a weapon mounted light.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/1a3509bd8b2ca4fa4f16e632f8b20155.jpg
Why a Light?
For serious use it is my, and others belief that a defensive handgun should ideally have a dedicated white light attached, not necessarily for searching but for seeing a threat in low light conditions and evaluating whether or not a bad guy needs to be shot some more. (Yes handheld lights can be used but not with the same level of accuracy, consistency, or speed.)
Why a Red Dot?
All the benefits a red dot optic gives on a long gun are also gained by putting one on a handgun. Does it require additional training and effective practice? Absolutely. Are handgun mounted red dots problem free? No. The best options running are the Trijicon RMR, Aimpoint Micro T/H series, Leopold Delta point, and the Vortex Viper/Venoms. In that order, remains to be seen how the new Sigs will perform.
15 yards standing. Stock 19 vs. RS.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/d35300a4094d0079b357942f282c498d.jpg
Why a Glock 19?
It's the standard by which all other duty /CCW handguns are judged. In this capacity the shorter slide gives less cycle time which objectively let's the user track the red dot faster shot to shot, with a X300/400 attached the overall length of the 19 is the same as a full size Glock 34. By using a KKM barrel muzzle velocities from standard 124 - 147gr + P duty rounds are the same as a Glock 17, so nothing is lost by going to a slightly shorter size. Also most shooters find the length of the 19's grip to be just right and in a concealment role is far easier to hide than a full size handgun. If the X300 is removed from the Handgun the RS can be concealed by almost all quality open ended holsters designed for the Glock 19 or 17.
Here are some variations of this idea.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/ba80b5274e27d1cd9a31d43b2fba28ff.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/d7801676cd10f95b74c36037d96ac690.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/b871c4c3e9ae69b5bce8b44ec2c58e4e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/647db1ee96e0b05dc862de9b36ecafe6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/477058798581b7178a993c99572a6d55.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/eb00ea4bf4d227224524a9fd518aba5b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/52d1d2a701aa9737e7421ff0e9ed0c2e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/4c69ba590538b196f8aa076d50bf3829.jpg
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi
Well in my sifting through all the pages of posts and watching some of their YouTube videos I became aware of a Handgun setup that isn't new or earth shattering but it does offer some advantages that other setups do not provide.
Rather than type it all out since I'm at work here's some pictures;
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/3a67317cf3e607cb35510986e1e42aca.jpg
The above would be "built to spec" Roland Special.
The idea is multifaceted, these are my thoughts on the subject and I'm a nobody when it comes to this sort of thing.
1.Why a Comp? It's only a 9mm!
For the same reasons comps are used on a rifle, faster splits, easier tracking of sights through recoil. Although with a 9mm there is little of the overpressure and ridiculous increase in concussive sound you get with say a 10.5" 5.56 carbine. With the KKM and similar comps used on these builds it brings a compact handguns overall length to roughly the length of a 5" 1911 or Glock 34. Also the comp keeps carbon buildup from occurring on the lens of a weapon mounted light.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/1a3509bd8b2ca4fa4f16e632f8b20155.jpg
Why a Light?
For serious use it is my, and others belief that a defensive handgun should ideally have a dedicated white light attached, not necessarily for searching but for seeing a threat in low light conditions and evaluating whether or not a bad guy needs to be shot some more. (Yes handheld lights can be used but not with the same level of accuracy, consistency, or speed.)
Why a Red Dot?
All the benefits a red dot optic gives on a long gun are also gained by putting one on a handgun. Does it require additional training and effective practice? Absolutely. Are handgun mounted red dots problem free? No. The best options running are the Trijicon RMR, Aimpoint Micro T/H series, Leopold Delta point, and the Vortex Viper/Venoms. In that order, remains to be seen how the new Sigs will perform.
15 yards standing. Stock 19 vs. RS.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/d35300a4094d0079b357942f282c498d.jpg
Why a Glock 19?
It's the standard by which all other duty /CCW handguns are judged. In this capacity the shorter slide gives less cycle time which objectively let's the user track the red dot faster shot to shot, with a X300/400 attached the overall length of the 19 is the same as a full size Glock 34. By using a KKM barrel muzzle velocities from standard 124 - 147gr + P duty rounds are the same as a Glock 17, so nothing is lost by going to a slightly shorter size. Also most shooters find the length of the 19's grip to be just right and in a concealment role is far easier to hide than a full size handgun. If the X300 is removed from the Handgun the RS can be concealed by almost all quality open ended holsters designed for the Glock 19 or 17.
Here are some variations of this idea.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/ba80b5274e27d1cd9a31d43b2fba28ff.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/d7801676cd10f95b74c36037d96ac690.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/b871c4c3e9ae69b5bce8b44ec2c58e4e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/647db1ee96e0b05dc862de9b36ecafe6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/477058798581b7178a993c99572a6d55.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/eb00ea4bf4d227224524a9fd518aba5b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/52d1d2a701aa9737e7421ff0e9ed0c2e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170320/4c69ba590538b196f8aa076d50bf3829.jpg
Velocitas, Opprimere,
Violentia Operandi