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.455_Hunter
03-28-2017, 21:35
http://www.9news.com/mb/news/mountain-biker-attacked-on-north-table-mountain/426302910
Interesting...
Biker has mild altercation with runner, later meets him again on the trail and is attacked. Sounds like "How to get shot 101".
buffalobo
03-28-2017, 22:53
Sounds like "How to get shot 101".
^^^This.
Potential IDPA stage...
There are assholes on both sides, this one took it to the next level.
thedave1164
03-29-2017, 07:41
Maybe bikers and runners will take each other out and leave the rest of us in peace?
bobbyfairbanks
03-29-2017, 08:06
Sounds biker is lying through his teeth about being a sweet innocent rider.
SuperiorDG
03-29-2017, 08:20
Sounds biker is lying through his teeth about being a sweet innocent rider.
My girl friend lives on the side of Table right by the blue house and we hike there all the time. If you don't get out there right when the sun is coming up its a crowded mess. Hikers/runners have the right a way over bikers (there is a $50 fine for not doing so) and some of those bikes haul ass down the hill and expect hikers/runners to get out of the way. I'm betting the biker ran the guy off the trail and might have deserved a beating.
Delfuego
03-29-2017, 08:21
Glad somebody is beating up hipsters from out of state. Maybe they will leave.
My girl friend lives on the side of Table right by the blue house and we hike there all the time. If you don't get out there right when the sun is coming up its a crowded mess. Hikers/runners have the right a way over bikers (there is a $50 fine for not doing so) and some of those bikes haul ass down the hill and expect hikers/runners to get out of the way. I'm betting the biker ran the guy off the trail and might have deserved a beating.
That is a distinct possibility.
There are bad eggs in both baskets.
BPTactical
03-29-2017, 09:45
When assholes collide.....Film at 11
Aloha_Shooter
03-29-2017, 09:55
My girl friend lives on the side of Table right by the blue house and we hike there all the time. If you don't get out there right when the sun is coming up its a crowded mess. Hikers/runners have the right a way over bikers (there is a $50 fine for not doing so) and some of those bikes haul ass down the hill and expect hikers/runners to get out of the way. I'm betting the biker ran the guy off the trail and might have deserved a beating.
You might be right but the quotes in the newstory (admittedly all from the biker) don't support that interpretation.
Andrew said he was riding up a trail on the eastern side of North Table Mountain Saturday when he came upon a runner with earbuds in both ears.
“When I saw [the runner], I started to ring the bell on my bike that I have to give him a heads up that there was someone behind him,” Andrew explained.
Andrew said another mountain biker descending the trail in the opposite direction also stopped to try to get the runner’s attention.
“As I passed, I shook my head because wearing headphones that cover both ears or two earbuds when out hiking or riding or running on these crowded trails on a weekend just seems – it’s sort of not a good idea,” Andrew said.
Andrew did not expect a profanity-laden response from the runner.
“The runner took exception and said, ‘shake your head at me like that again and I’ll beat your a** mother ******,’” Andrew told us.
Mary Ann Bonnell with JeffCo Open Space said Andrew’s story highlights the problem of wearing earbuds on the trail.
“The earbuds prevented that individual from knowing that this cyclist, who was doing everything right, ringing the bell, trying to politely announce himself, trying to pass, just couldn’t get this trail runner’s attention.”
When it comes to trail etiquette, Bonnell summed it up with two words.
“Be respectful,” she said. “If you can just keep that in mind, everything else should fall in place.”
It doesn't matter if you're hiking, biking, running, or sunning -- YOU are the problem when you are oblivious to the environment and expect everyone else to adjust to you. I like to listen to podcasts or audiobooks when I'm out walking around too -- but I keep the volume low enough to be aware of my surroundings. I still keep eyes on trail and surveying around me.
SuperiorDG
03-29-2017, 11:56
You might be right but the quotes in the newstory (admittedly all from the biker) don't support that interpretation.
It doesn't matter if you're hiking, biking, running, or sunning -- YOU are the problem when you are oblivious to the environment and expect everyone else to adjust to you. I like to listen to podcasts or audiobooks when I'm out walking around too -- but I keep the volume low enough to be aware of my surroundings. I still keep eyes on trail and surveying around me.
Perhaps. Hopefully they will catch the guy or he will step forward with his side. I've had issues with hikers as a bike rider where the hikers were unaware of me for whatever reason and got pissed at me. One time a lady went off on me and her husband had to step in and let her know that I was trying to let her know I was there but she didn't notice. She happen to have two dogs on those 20 foot long leashes taking up about a forty foot wide section of the open space. Anyway, fighting someone over this, regardless of what I said above, was probably not the best idea on either side.
.455_Hunter
03-29-2017, 13:01
I am sure, like always, that there two sides to the story. An unbiased witness to the actual assault would be helpful.
When my son was 2, we were hiking on the Apex trail behind Heritage Square. A mountain biker, recklessly bombing the trail for his own pleasure, just about nuked my son on a blind corner. I question whether my response would have been totally non-physical if he had been seriously injured.
Our current house access road is crossed by an open space trail, with a steep embankment on one side. A trial runner with ear buds, coming uncontrolled downhill, actually ran into the side of my wife's car and bounced-off as she drove past.
Idiots. Idiots everywhere.
Our current house access road is crossed by an open space trail, with a steep embankment on one side. A trial runner with ear buds, coming uncontrolled downhill, actually ran into the side of my wife's car and bounced-off as she drove past.
I would pay to see a video of that.
hollohas
03-29-2017, 20:37
Runner must have been some sort of ninja to snatch the bicyclist by his throat from his moving bike.
Aloha_Shooter
03-29-2017, 23:51
Runner must have been some sort of ninja to snatch the bicyclist by his throat from his moving bike.
Unless the cyclist WASN'T tearing around like a madman and instead was being respectful and taking it easy when passing pedestrians ...
I'm just glad this was on a trail and not on the roads that bicyclists shouldn't be allowed on at all.
SuperiorDG
03-30-2017, 07:52
I'm just glad this was on a trail and not on the roads that bicyclists shouldn't be allowed on at all.
True Dat
Today I'm going to take my bike out on the road, just to spite you.
Today I'm going to take my bike out on the road, just to spite you.
Me too..
kidicarus13
03-31-2017, 06:20
Today I'm going to take my bike out on the road, just to spite you.
Should be fun, enjoy.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170331/07df4670f0b542475263f5018a9eae96.jpg
It will be fun, I enjoy fighting the weather. [Beer] BTW I wrote my post on Thursday morning and did my ride on Thursday afternoon, might want to pay attention to the post date in the future.
Those of you who want to ban cyclists from paved roads, what else do you want to ban, maybe ban guns for everyone else except yourselves, maybe you want to control what people write on the internet? You have a lot to learn about natural rights, liberty, freedom of choice, etc.
Me too..
Did you enjoy your ride?
It will be fun, I enjoy fighting the weather. [Beer] BTW I wrote my post on Thursday morning and did my ride on Thursday afternoon, might want to pay attention to the post date in the future.
Those of you who want to ban cyclists from paved roads, what else do you want to ban, maybe ban guns for everyone else except yourselves, maybe you want to control what people write on the internet? You have a lot to learn about natural rights, liberty, freedom of choice, etc.
I think the frustration w/ Bicyclists is how they want to be treated like a vehicle but don't want to act like a vehicle, or even be treated like a vehicle when inconvenient for them.
I think the frustration w/ Bicyclists is how they want to be treated like a vehicle but don't want to act like a vehicle, or even be treated like a vehicle when inconvenient for them.
It is. I used to be frustrated with the idea of bicyclists acting like jerks, because I read about it online all the time. Then when I started driving almost constantly, I quickly got over it as I hardly ever encounter bicyclists that are impeding traffic. I would say that my traffic frustration ratio looks something like 1000:1 (car:bike). That's no exaggeration. Now, I don't often find myself driving through LODO, and I'm sure if I did my experience might be different.
I think the frustration w/ Bicyclists is how they want to be treated like a vehicle but don't want to act like a vehicle, or even be treated like a vehicle when inconvenient for them.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Haha, oh man. I'd ride in that lane next to the water as a challenge though.
hurley842002
03-31-2017, 09:36
I think the frustration w/ Bicyclists is how they want to be treated like a vehicle but don't want to act like a vehicle, or even be treated like a vehicle when inconvenient for them.
All of them are like that right? Kind of like all gun owners are criminals and thugs...
All of them are like that right? Kind of like all gun owners are criminals and thugs...
Enough bikers act like that to warrant the general frustration. Particularly when they have no licensing, tagging, etc. and therefore do not contribute to the very roads they hog. And, if one wants to retort with "they do that by paying for their Subaru Outback's plates", well, one could make that argument for motorcyclists and their cages. Or even car owners w/ 2+ cars.
Addendum: Why do I, a dual sport motorcycle owner, have to pay for a separate OHV sticker/permit when I can drive in my SUV on the same trail w/o the sticker? Both are tagged for road use. Why is it someone can ride a bike from their house to a trail and back, but pays nothing extra for road or trail? There's a disparity.
hollohas
03-31-2017, 09:45
Every topic on Bicyclists we've ever had has eventually dissolved into this petty argument.
Yes, cyclists get to use the road.
Yes, some of them are jerks and don't "share" the road.
Yes, some drivers are jerks and don't "share" the road.
Sensitive topic apparently.
Every topic on Bicyclists we've ever had has eventually dissolved into this petty argument.
Yes, cyclists get to use the road.
Yes, some of them are jerks and don't "share" the road.
Yes, some drivers are jerks and don't "share" the road.
Sensitive topic apparently.
Sums it up nicely.
hurley842002
03-31-2017, 10:37
Sums it up nicely.
Yup
hurley842002
03-31-2017, 10:41
Enough bikers act like that to warrant the general frustration. Particularly when they have no licensing, tagging, etc. and therefore do not contribute to the very roads they hog. And, if one wants to retort with "they do that by paying for their Subaru Outback's plates", well, one could make that argument for motorcyclists and their cages. Or even car owners w/ 2+ cars.
Addendum: Why do I, a dual sport motorcycle owner, have to pay for a separate OHV sticker/permit when I can drive in my SUV on the same trail w/o the sticker? Both are tagged for road use. Why is it someone can ride a bike from their house to a trail and back, but pays nothing extra for road or trail? There's a disparity.
Venture off topic much?
I think the frustration w/ Bicyclists is how they want to be treated like a vehicle but don't want to act like a vehicle, or even be treated like a vehicle when inconvenient for them.
^^ this
People who operate bicycles on the roads should be licensed, insured, ticketed for traffic violations, and have a bicycle endorsement on the operators driver's license the same as a motorcycle endorsement. In order to "share" the road, they need to be held to the same standards.
Venture off topic much?
No, it's an ancillary example of the disparity. Who took your seat pan?
For what it's worth, I much prefer a bike path to riding anywhere near traffic.
For what it's worth, I much prefer a bike path to riding anywhere near traffic.
Which is where all bikes should be ridden - and should be paid for entirely by bike riders.
Im sure all of the libs would be fine with your logic. no public shooting areas, only areas paid for by shooters.
I wasn't aware I could shoot anywhere I wanted to in public.
Which amendment is it that protects the God given right to ride a bicycle in traffic?
Relating the two arguments in any way is simply ridiculous.
I wasn't aware I could shoot anywhere I wanted to in public.
Nor that I could drive wherever the hell I want.
SuperiorDG
03-31-2017, 13:27
I sure hope they get this guy so we could get back on topic.
BTW I was joking about having a problem with bikes on roads. Being that I live up in Coal Creek Canyon I just wish they had a little more common sense about were they ride.
As to the topic:
Pic does not look like he was repeatedly punched in the face.
The marks on his neck, taken much later, appear freshly enhanced - the mark on his back does not have the additional pale redness surrounding it like his neck.
Guy is a bicycle blogger of some sort = has a good story to tell.
From his blog, "drunkcyclist.com":
http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/VDB_posse.jpg
Perhaps the bicycle rider should invest in some self defense training and some protein powder.
I sure hope they get this guy so we could get back on topic.
Yep
https://threatqualitypress.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/trainwreck.jpg
Did you enjoy your ride?
Its on Strava...[Beer]
My favorite comment from his blog of this event:
Daves_Not_Here_Man on March 29, 2017 at 9:12 pm said:
Totally agree with John Walker. Insults, deserved or not, are provocations and provocations have consequences. Nature has its way of working these things out – you’ll think twice before condescending to strangers again. Your comeuppance involved no permanent injury or real loss, so you got a valuable life lesson for free.
I rather suspect there’s more to the story. Like how, in addition to the head shake, there was the disgusted in-your-face glare? And how you were emboldened by thinking you were faster and couldn’t get caught? Insulting people while you run away is cowardly. And cowardice has its own rewards as you discovered.
How would things have worked out if you had just accepted that some people may not hear a bell? If you took the personal responsibility as the overtaking party to yell when it was obvious you had not been heard? If you gave a cheerful “thanks” to a person who gave way when he realized you were there?
Memo to Cyclists: Nobody gives a damn what you think about earbuds, or anything else for that matter. That you cannot engage in the simple child’s pleasure of riding a bike in public without drama is why you are so universally reviled. Your self-righteous confrontations have no constructive effect and only get other cyclists’ asses kicked. GROW UP!!
hollohas
03-31-2017, 14:41
As to the topic:
Pic does not look like he was repeatedly punched in the face.
The marks on his neck, taken much later, appear freshly enhanced - the mark on his back does not have the additional pale redness surrounding it like his neck.
I thought the exact same thing.
Question for the cyclists here, mountain or road. How many of you have bells on your bike? How about your riding buddies? Serious question.
I'm not a cyclist but there are a number in my office. A few ride to work every single day. They are serious. None have bells on their bikes. I understand how it might be useful, but the only bells I have seen on any bike in quite some time are on the Hello Kity and Frozen bikes in my garage...
But wait, there's more.
Daves_Not_Here_Man on March 31, 2017 at 12:05 am said:
Moral of the story is you reap what you sow. And cyclists have been depositing to the Bank of Pleasekickmyass for years. Cyclists spend more time than any other species sneering, condescending, whining, shaking their fists, complaining, one-star-Yelp-reviewing, eye rolling, swearing, flipping off, lecturing, gesticulating, offense taking, sniveling, scowling, scolding, panty bunching and rudely confronting motorists, runners, pedestrians, other cyclists, equestrians, heterosexuals, seagulls, elderly couples, kittens, people in wheelchairs, parked cars and small children.
Cyclists live by the Inverse Golden Rule – I am entitled to have the entire world treat me as I would want to be treated. And if it doesn’t, I’m entitled to have a goddam meltdown hysterectomy without getting my ass kicked.
And you doubt me? For evidence, just browse http://www.bikeforums.net to gauge the collective winning personality of the cycling community, with their endless internecine snipe-fest Pity Party about a world that doesn’t give Shit One about the concerns of cyclists. A phalanx of moderators has listed 36 pages of Banned Users for acting like … well … asshole cyclists, pardon the redundancy.
Or, notice how cyclists gripe that overtaking motorists should be more patient, pass with plenty of room, be conscientious, respect right-of-way, assure the safety of the more vulnerable party? But reverse the roles and place the cyclist among slower pedestrians and ask them to extend identical considerations for identical reasons – Oh My God, now I have to slow down, I will to berate this person who better not kick my ass in response. Because, earbuds anger me and I’m the safety police. Of course, I don’t mean to generalize – I’m only talking about cyclists.
Or look up Yelp reviews for any bike shop in the country (the main problem with running a bike shop is your target market is infested with cyclists). Filter by lowest rating to read a veritable hate-fest of self-entitled brats whining that their asses were not sufficiently kissed for their $4 tube investment. Any of these reviewers not need their asses kicked? I rest my case.
So why is it that cyclists are insufferable and so in need of ass kickery? I’m thinking it’s both environmental and genetic, stemming from constant saddle pressure on smaller than average brains.
And I love it when I hear “violence is not the answer” when they don’t even say what the question is. If the question is, “Would you rather have 4 hours of mind-blowing sex with the entire Switzerland’s Winter Olympics Women’s Ski Team, OR, kick some cyclist twit’s ass?”, then you must agree, it’s violence in a landslide.
So when we find that a cyclist got his ass kicked and bike thrown off the side of a mountain (I LOVE that visual) for sneering at someone else for his own violation of trail etiquette and common courtesy, i.e., behaving like a cyclist, we come to the only reasonable conclusion – there is a God. And then when he photographs his injuries (Sorry Andrew, not impressed, I’ve had rougher first dates), takes it to the victim-celebrating media (the one lifeform lower than cyclists), and whine posts so as to inflame co-offended sister cyclists, it just doesn’t get any better than this. Because I get to write this knowing they’re reading it.
SO CYCLISTS LISTEN UP!! You are a pestilence upon this earth. You are universally despised and for good reason. Every person you insult just files it away and cheers when you get your ass kicked. You want to be treated with courtesy and respect? Then YOU do your part as YOU brought this on yourselves. Is it all your fault? No, but mostly. Which is great news for you as you therefore have the most power to improve the situation (yes, you have personal agency, a novel concept in today’s culture of victimhood).
I have a new internet hero
And the latest post to his blog MAY contain the runner's version (could easily be fake, but sounds plausible at least)
KC in da house! on March 31, 2017 at 12:41 pm said:
Hey PB, you diptard. He did post his side on a “runners” forum. Why would he post it here? The dumb shiteaters on MTBR posted it there for everyone too:
From the Runners account supposedly
RE: Runner wearing earbuds beats up mountain biker outside of Golden, Co 3/30/2017 9:26AM – in reply to hart crane
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My friend just alerted me to this thread and I wanted to tell my side. I NEVER even touched they guy. I was wearing earbuds, but the volume was low. If you divide the path into two lanes I was running in the middle of one lane so there was a whole other lane to pass. He came up behind me and rang is little fairy bell over and over. I didn’t move because there was plenty of room for him to pass and nobody was coming in the other direction. When he passed me he stuck out his elbow and clipped me. Then I did yell profanities and threats. A while later he came up behind me again. This time he didn’t ring his bell and I didn’t know he was coming. When he passed me his soaked me with his water bottle. I was pissed then and jumped onto another trail that cuts off the main one he was riding on so I could get ahead of him. I waited until he came and then threw a handful of dirt at him. He then road off the trail and crashed. I’m not proud what I did. His story is crap though.
Oh and by the way, NORMSK. Your detective work is awesome. And to IGNAZJR, why do you have to be so lame dude? KC works for you. Why don’t you tell everyone you get the LULZ everyday?
hollohas
03-31-2017, 15:20
Another question.
We know many people stereotype cyclists and generally think they are obnoxious.
But how many times have you heard someone say "man, runners sure suck. So many of them are jerks"?
One of those groups certainly has a lower approval rating than the other. There must be a reason for that.
Like it or not, people gain the reputation of the group(s) they associate themselves with. Deserved or not. It's human nature.
Aloha_Shooter
03-31-2017, 15:45
If http://drunkcyclist.com/2017/03/28/tales-from-the-trail-getting-stompd/ is indeed the full cyclist's side of the story, then it appears to me we "have a failure to communicate" -- especially when taken with what's purported to be the runner's side of the story because they don't match and neither one seems complete. The runner's side of the story doesn't address the oncoming cyclist or his warning that someone wanted to pass and the fact that apparent witnesses seemed to come forward wanting to help the cyclist catch the runner indicates to me that others felt the runner's conduct was unwarranted.
OTOH, the cyclist's account does give an impression of a self-entitled s--t and his pictures of his injuries ...
http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/IMG_2494-e1490662793184-413x550.jpg
http://drunkcyclist.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/IMG_2495-e1490662856540-413x550.jpg
... c'mon, really? Those abrasions along his back look like the bike frame to me -- certainly doesn't look like anyone's fist or foot. For that matter, where's the bruising that comes from the kind of beating he described? I see abrasions but I don't see the usual dark purplish bruising I would expect from fists and shoes.
At this point, I'm going to retract anything I said on the cyclist's behalf and suggest both parties need to go on "Judge Judy" and get reprimanded for acting like kids.
hollohas
03-31-2017, 16:20
He describes the runner as wearing a "COM' or "COR" shirt. A "COR" shirt could be Colorado Obstacle Racers" a group of folks who do a lot of trail running.
The damage to his bike seems like something more server than if it was thrown 30ft down a "slope."
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I don't think there is any way the marks on his back could be from a kick.
The alleged runner's story seems way more plausible and I'm sure it's a mix of both.
The cyclist's skin scrapes look much more like a crash to me (with the addition of some possible later "enhancement" to the neck area) . It makes way more sense that the two had words and maybe some minor altercations. And a dirt throw leading to a crash sounds like it could be legit too. It's easier to believe someone who is willing to admit that both parties exchanged "pleasantries" over the guy who says "I was minding my own business being perfect and just got jumped by a mean guy."
hollohas
03-31-2017, 16:25
And here's the cyclist's self-description. Sounds like a great guy. Malt liquor, strip clubs and mommy. Awesome.
A fan of riding bikes with one gear, malt liquor, riding without knowing how many miles I’ve covered, and strip clubs that let you bring your own keg. I typically have a stupid grin on my face, it is because deep down I know that no matter what, my mom thinks I’m cool. Denver, Colorado, USA
Both runner AND the biker should get public lashing.
speedysst
03-31-2017, 17:01
LOL so much supposition and assumption in this thread. Lots of blaming the victim. Its pathetic.
Claiming you are a victim does not necessarily make it so.
I'm glad to see that this thread has turned around. Looking at all the "evidence" (we don't know that any of it is real), I'd say the runner has a much better reason for kicking the other guy's ass than vice versa.
Those marks don't look all that bad. I thought the biker said he got thrown on his back and choked or something, so I had thought the straight lines on the back were from landing on the bike frame or a rock. Either way it doesn't matter because he's probably 99% healed by now.
Claiming you are a victim does not necessarily make it so.
We have no idea how he was dressed though to make a judgement on whether he was just asking for it or not.
You want to put someone on a pedestal every time they say someone was mean to them and they got a boo-boo? Guess what, less than half are being honest with you, are you are contributing to a societal problem. Shit happens in life, you deal with it quietly, grow up and learn from it if you're an adult.
If you're a narcissistic little crybaby bitch,you try to get the media to share a tear with you and setup a gofund me and write about the horrors on your blog - and then realize it works so well you just as well should fabricate circumstances or outright stories. I don't have respect for this type of crap, nor do I respect the ones giving sympathy. Your pity is the weapon that these dick-heads use to exploit other people. YOUR pity exploits OTHER people. Perhaps you should be more frugal in providing it. I respect adults that deal with their problems like adults. I don't respect "I can't pay my car payment I need gofundme", "I was an asshole but I'll write this in a way to get sympathy and gofundme". etc. etc.
Fuck this attention whore in spandex for going online with his alleged, exaggerated and/or fabricated issue, and every person like him.
PS: It honestly doesn't matter if it did happen or didn't. The modern reaction is that of a child, not an adult.
Are you familiar with Content Cop? You'll enjoy this video. It has a lot of bad words. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8vaJaFCFYA
We have no idea how he was dressed though to make a judgement on whether he was just asking for it or not.
"Men" in spandex are asking for it.
"Men" in spandex are asking for it.
Well, unless it's elk season.
Well, unless it's elk season.
Wanna go camping this season?
hollohas
03-31-2017, 18:53
Another comment from his blog.
>>>>Darwinian Belligerence on March 31, 2017 at 7:38 am said:
Golden rule much anybody?
Treat people how you want to be treated.
There is a reason for the overflowing vitriol on this page. There are many, many cyclists that treat everyone else like shit, it sticks in the memory harder than a smile + hello. MTB’rs, face it, you DO have an image problem. When it burns in to the cultural zeitgeist, there is something to it, not just “oh they’re jealous of my Lycra & t-rex arms.”
I know how dangerous jumping to conclusions can be but the OP’s story doesn’t add up. I wasn’t there but conveniently, no one else was.
Your stream of consciousness thought process betrays you Andrew. “Why didn’t I charge him?”
“Why didn’t I take a swing at him?” “I was in full defensive mode”
These are all vain statements to masturbate your bruised ego with & prove your machismo is no more refined than the evolutionarily superior guy/hairless ape/human that gave you a brief ass whippin.
As for you you aggro militant supporters of the “victim” calling people keyboard tough guys for suggesting you reap what you sow, reread your posts that happen to be chocked full of suggestions of violence and name calling.
Cognitive dissonance isn’t limited to any one group or type but I can see it abounds in the foothills. Please keep in mind when you’re out pretending that you’re rugged or extreme or tough: treat people/strangers as you want to be treated. You never know who might be stronger, smarter or more evolutionarily fit than you, especially if you’re an avid cyclist.<<<<
I'm just glad this was on a trail and not on the roads that bicyclists shouldn't be allowed on at all.
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hollohas
03-31-2017, 19:58
This apparently is not the 1st trail confrontation Mr. Cyclist has had. Also from his blog this month, a bit more vauge, I'm guessing because he didn't get beat up that time...
>>>"I’ve got a story about some backpackers the following morning with a drone but without courtesy that I can tell you next time we’re together in real life. You know- face to face type stuff. This is not the venue. Suffice it to say: manners are important. Seems like more and more, people are incapable of compromise. I blame the internet."
This particular post also contained lots of references to drinking while riding...as do many more of his posts. If Mr. Cyclist is so fond of drinking while riding, I can see how confrontations may arise.
Edit: Multiple authors on that blog. Looks like someone other than the individual in the table mountain confrontation wrote the post above. So I must take back my insinuations.
Sounds like someone should post some Nietzsche on his blog.
He who fights with monsters should be careful lest he thereby become a monster.
And if thou gaze long into an abyss, the abyss will also gaze into thee.
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