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davsel
04-28-2017, 13:29
https://gruntworksmedia.com/2017/04/19/a-message-to-antifa-from-an-american-infantryman-iron-mike/

A Message to ANTIFA from an American Infantryman – Iron Mike




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Alright fucksticks, this circus has gone on long enough and the audience has gotten tired of the clowns doing the same act for months on end. Your special snowflake brand of socialist revolution (black masks and tipped over trash cans) is sputtering out from underneath you. You’re not any more dedicated and disciplined at seeing this through than you were moving out of your parents’ guest bedroom after your “one semester off” 4 years ago. It’s time to take off the Doc Martins, wash your dreadlocks, remove the 9 facial piercings, and go get a job. You are not a revolutionary. You’re not changing the world. You WILL NOT win. All of your goals are stupid and you should do what you do best…quit. Until at least January 20th, 2021 Donald Trump is still going to be President; America is going to have a Capitalist, Market Economy; and working-class people are not going to fall in line with a bunch of spoiled middle-class college pussies LARP-ing as communist insurgents. Let me delve into this a bit deeper since all you chardonnay socialists clearly have a goddamn learning disorder… and no, your self-diagnosed ‘Autism’ does not make you “Neurodiverse” it makes you a hand-flapping puddle of mush.

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First of all, your stupid fucking beliefs are incoherent at best. Your little red & black flag of ‘Anarcho-Communism’ might as well be a goddamn Bat-Signal that you were on a first name basis with the driver of the short bus as a kid. Anarchism is the complete lack of formal government. Communism is the complete ownership of all property by the State and a state-planned central command economy. You’re telling me you want a world with no government, no private property, and a centralized distribution system to manage all wealth and material necessities? You idiots somehow came to the conclusion that these polar opposite concepts are somehow compatible, and that a bunch of dope smokers that congregated in online blog forums will bring about your imagined utopia by trashing a Starbucks? What the fuck is wrong with you? With that level of brain damage, it’s like your mom tried to drown you as a baby in a bathtub full of bong water… Seriously, you people are complaining that the current socio-political system is so unfair you (or insert minority you claim to speak on behalf of collectively here) can’t succeed in it, and somehow people who can’t manage to make Assistant Manager at Best Buy have the wherewithal to form a completely new society? Really? I suppose your professors should get some blame here too. They’re really the ones who put these moronic ideas in your heads in the first place. The aging hippies of the 60’s and 70’s – people who never actually had to succeed in life, and never did – now occupy most of the senior positions within the American college professoriate simply because they stuck around long enough. These idiots weren’t qualified to do anything except political activism and hide in institutes of higher education where their bad ideas never actually had to prove themselves valid in order to survive. Three generations of stupidity and failure (with some help from the Soviet KGB psychological warfare division) just compounded them into the ‘Critical Theory’ and Cultural Marxism you got pushed into your “useful idiot” head by some sexagenarian hypocrite ignorance profiteer. Remember: those who can, do; those who can’t, teach. I think deep down you’re pissed off because you know you got scammed. After all, why would your brilliant Socialist and Communist professors charge all that money to fill your head with their ideas if they actually believed what they were saying? Why didn’t they do it for free? Instead of admitting you got screwed, you doubled down on your beliefs and projected your bad decisions onto the rest of the world. Now you’re playing Red-Rover with a dumpster in the Berkeley town square.

Now let’s get to the type of person you are. You’re a fucking loser, there’s no other way to put it. Losers always gravitate towards collectivism because they are too inadequate to succeed on their own. If you had to be an individual, people would see what a loser you really are, so you dress alike and hide behind group identities. I mean honestly, the most famous member of your movement is a chick who does two things with her life; drugs and post pictures of her hairy tuna canoe on the internet. Real compelling soldier for your fight against “Fascism”, especially after she got her shit rocked by that flying right cross. You imagine yourself to be “On the right side of history” and your delusions of grandeur help reinforce your sense of moral superiority. You envision yourself a great revolutionary fighting tyranny and “Fascism” manifested by President Trump and anyone else who finds themselves to the political right of Chairman Mao Zedong… Really you’re just lazy greedy fucks who don’t want to pay their student loans back. If you’re communist revolutionaries, you’ve got to be the best-fed ones in history. Peasants in the Russian revolution of 1917 were starving when they overthrew the Romanov aristocracy; Chinese peasants were being starved and massacred by the imperial Japanese when they revolted; you go to your protests on a full stomach courtesy of mommy’s debit card and the nearest Whole Foods. I watched one of your Black Bloc members get his shirt pulled off and the stretch marks looked like propeller scars on a goddamn manatee. Being a fat disgusting blob of shit is indicative of poor impulse control and laziness; character traits of low-functioning people. You are hypocrites of the highest order too, another trait of low-functioning people. You claim to hate racists and white supremacists and then spew tirades of anti-white hatred online, smugly proclaiming you “Can’t be racist to white people” because you changed the definition of ‘Racism’ to fit your agenda. You claim to hate authoritarianism, and then proceed to dictate what people are allowed to say, what people are allowed to think, which identities are allowed to have opinions on which issues, and threaten violence on anyone who disagrees with your stupid bullshit. The Nazis had Brown-shirts; you march around with the “Brown Berets” while claiming to hate Nazis… Maybe no one will notice the similarity of armed people in brown clothing demanding total compliance to their political beliefs? I’m sure you can’t help it though.

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This movement makes you feel like you have a home and are valued, and that’s a powerful motivator, especially to a total loser like you. I know your kind. You’ve always existed in society and you’ve just found a new outlet for your angst that doesn’t make you feel like the impotent coward you are. If this was 15 years ago, you would be that kid who sat in the back of the class wearing a “Ramones” vintage band shirt (even though you didn’t listen to their music) you bought at Hot Topic, a dog chain, and black eye-liner. You played 3rd trombone in the marching band for a year before quitting, and most of your memories from high school were of sitting by yourself writing suicide notes you never actually intended to follow through on, and cutting yourself for attention to the new Evanescence album. Meanwhile your mom was busy ignoring you and humping your step-dad constantly in the hopes that his seed would produce a better child that wasn’t a total failure before all her eggs rotted. You were that dweeb who had two friends since middle school and each new year you reinvented yourself as some edgy fringe ideology, because you desperately needed some sort of validation that proved you weren’t completely inadequate. Tough shit, the cheerleaders still dated the athletes and didn’t hang with friendless malcontents who bragged about being an Atheist, an Anarchist, a Socialist, and a Marxist. You’re just a new version of the last generation’s stereotypical loser who found a group of similar losers to hang with. You traded cutting yourself for lamenting your “white privilege” on Facebook. You traded the Emo/Goth attire for unnatural hair colors and a made-up gender identity. You traded screaming that you hate your parents for throwing bricks at a Bank of America because you hate Republicans. It looks like you kept the drugs though.

I could go on all day about how pathetic you all are and how your bullshit movement is just another way for you to escape the real world and your many, many, personal faults… but I have another message for you. Please get more violent. Please don’t learn anything from getting your asses kicked…and double down. Please, for the love of God, pick up an actual weapon and declare yourselves violent enemies of the state. Give us red-blooded Americans the justification to really give you what you’ve been asking for with your constant threats, arson, and violent outbursts. Let’s really turn this into an old-school Communist revolution! I dare you. I double dare you. A whole lot of grunts would absolutely love to get a stateside kill, and the fact you shitbags always vote against us and protest our existence makes it that much sweeter. We kill people, and you aren’t even people – you’re communist heathens. You cowards always talk a big game, but you always fail on the follow-through- even your proposition for California secession failed. I guess parasites can’t long survive without their host.

You started this new age of political violence and for a while no one opposed you. I’m sure sucker-punching people and pepper-spraying women was fun for you while it lasted. Now however, there are those among your opposition prepared to meet your aggression in kind in defense of American ideals and the greatest document of human freedom ever created; the US Constitution. Your days of ganging up to beat people and pepper-spraying women with impunity are over. You think you’re on the right side of history and the masses are with you… What are you waiting for pussies? Let’s see what communism in blue hair and skinny jeans is all about.
I’ll say it again; shit or get off the pot.

– Iron Mike

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Poetry

Zundfolge
04-28-2017, 13:39
That is all kinds of awesome.

CS1983
04-28-2017, 13:45
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-43072-Grumpy-Cat-clapping-gif-PandaW-zvHg.gif

Rumline
04-28-2017, 14:06
You started this new age of political violence and for a while no one opposed you. I’m sure sucker-punching people and pepper-spraying women was fun for you while it lasted. Now however, there are those among your opposition prepared to meet your aggression in kind in defense of American ideals and the greatest document of human freedom ever created; the US Constitution. Your days of ganging up to beat people and pepper-spraying women with impunity are over. You think you’re on the right side of history and the masses are with you… What are you waiting for pussies? Let’s see what communism in blue hair and skinny jeans is all about.
I’ll say it again; shit or get off the pot.
Amen. Can't wait for these losers to really start some shit. Unfortunately they'll probably wait until we have a D POTUS so they know the military will back them up.

Bailey Guns
04-28-2017, 14:11
Yeah, OK. I get it. They suck. We all know that. But I contend (and I may be the only one here who feels this way) that anyone who openly wishes and encourages violent revolution, even from a bunch of leftist pussies, hasn't really given the subject much thought.


Let’s really turn this into an old-school Communist revolution! I dare you. I double dare you. A whole lot of grunts would absolutely love to get a stateside kill...

That really doesn't sound like the words of a rational person. A stateside kill? WTF, dude? That's a thing now?

CS1983
04-28-2017, 14:21
Yeah, OK. I get it. They suck. We all know that. But I contend (and I may be the only one here who feels this way) that anyone who openly wishes and encourages violent revolution, even from a bunch of leftist pussies, hasn't really given the subject much thought.



That really doesn't sound like the words of a rational person. A stateside kill? WTF, dude? That's a thing now?

Why not?


"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

Bailey Guns
04-28-2017, 14:29
I took the oath, too. Several times.

I still say anyone who wishes for that type of scenario is mentally out of balance. I wonder how that person would feel should his wishes be granted and a full-scale, violent revolution materialized and his loved one(s) were caught up in the violence he wished for and were killed.

It's all kinds of fun to grab a few beers and post about what a bunch of douchebags these leftists are. I get that. I don't get how one actually hopes a violent revolution materializes just to get a "stateside kill".

I think a better resolution to their nonsense would be to vigorously prosecute them thru legal avenues. Something that isn't being done now and only encourages more of their bullshit.

ETA: And believe me, I'd love to be the one to faceplant that little fag (on the left in the first picture) so hard they'd need to dig him out with a backhoe. But take him to jail...maybe to the hospital first. I don't want to go to war over his antics.

CS1983
04-28-2017, 14:34
I suppose one could flip that argument on a foreign war, too.

Unfortunately, Bob Hope doesn't play police actions, just wars...

Joe_K
04-28-2017, 14:37
Amen. Best analysis of this plague that exsists in our amazing corner of the world.

Bailey Guns
04-28-2017, 14:37
Well I'm not talking about a foreign war.

Zundfolge
04-28-2017, 15:06
I still say anyone who wishes for that type of scenario is mentally out of balance. I wonder how that person would feel should his wishes be granted and a full-scale, violent revolution materialized and his loved one(s) were caught up in the violence he wished for and were killed.

In general I see your point. But when you watch the actions of Antifa and listen to their rhetoric AND THEN you see that the Mayor and Chief of Police of a Berkeley (along with plenty of Democrats in DC) are obviously taking their side the potential of civil war becomes more realistic and the idea of beating these people through "legal avenues" seems less and less possible.

Bailey Guns
04-28-2017, 15:10
People like the mayor of Berkeley are part of the problem. No doubt. The mayor is complicit in the behavior of these assholes. On the other hand...the people of CA continue to vote for people like him and encourage, even enable, the Antifa types thru indifference and ignorance.

KevDen2005
04-28-2017, 16:18
I'm a little concerned with their officer safety situation. Allowing that tard to be that close to me with a club of some type on his shoulder is definitely a no go.

Also, I will start using the term Hairy Tuna Canoe

Irving
04-28-2017, 16:47
That guy gets point for colorful insults at least.

MrAK
04-28-2017, 17:04
I really hope actual LARPers show up at those "protests"

brutal
04-28-2017, 17:10
ROFL.

I keep listening to the news sound bites, waiting to hear, "Red Rover, Red Rover, send that pussified Anitifa douche right over."

Zundfolge
04-28-2017, 17:47
I really hope actual LARPers show up at those "protests"

They have. I introduce to you "Based Carrot Man"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXjj-MOSqe8

Bailey Guns
04-28-2017, 17:51
I have to carry a goddam modern urban dictionary with me any more just to keep up with all the new acronyms.

brutal
04-28-2017, 18:02
Was the crowd chanting, "Safe inside?" after "Carrot man!"?

ROFL

CS1983
04-28-2017, 18:10
So basically antifa is occupy wallstreet v2?

cfortune
04-28-2017, 20:33
They have. I introduce to you "Based Carrot Man"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXjj-MOSqe8

That guys is almost as cool as based stickman

Irving
04-28-2017, 20:57
So basically antifa is occupy wallstreet v2?

But with M80's and shoulder pads.

Joe_K
04-29-2017, 07:14
I believe we should govern ourselves but...

I still say anyone who wishes for that type of scenario is mentally out of balance. I wonder how that person would feel should his wishes be granted and a full-scale, violent revolution materialized and his loved one(s) were caught up in the violence he wished for and were killed.

It's all kinds of fun to grab a few ales and chat about what a bunch of scallywags these Redcoats are. I get that. I don't get how one actually hopes a violent revolution materializes just to get a "colony-side kill".

I think a better resolution to their nonsense would be to vigorously prosecute them thru legal avenues. Something that isn't being done now and only encourages more of their shite.

ETA: And believe me, I'd love to be the one to knock about that little Limey so hard they'd need to dig him out with several spades. But take him to the Gaol..maybe to the doctors first. I don't want to go to war over their antics.

FIFY....From a 1770's perspective [Beer]

Bailey Guns
04-29-2017, 07:30
If this were 1776 or even 1860 and the issues were the same as then, I'd likely have a different perspective on this (though I'd be on the side of rebels in the latter).

But it's not a foreign gov't we're talking about and we already govern ourselves. I've already mentioned that's part of the issue (ie: CA has the gov't they voted for). And it's not basically half the country we're talking about. It's small, relatively unorganized groups of stupid people that wouldn't normally have a message if it weren't for social media and other electronic venues...and a willing media always looking for sensationalism. We don't need a revolution and United States military personnel in the streets, killing people, to stop their nonsense. We need elected officials and the police to do their jobs. That's it.

It seems a little ironic you've made an analogy of what I said to fighting the oppressive and tyrannical Brits in our founding years when the article in the OP alludes to gov't soldiers in the streets wanting to kill US citizens.

ETA: And, BTW...I'm not saying it couldn't get to the point of armed conflict or that the police (or even citizens) shouldn't use deadly force against these idiots at some point, depending on what they're doing. I'm saying it's not there yet. Not even close to the point we should be talking about the military shooting people.

Great-Kazoo
04-29-2017, 07:45
We need elected officials and the police to do their jobs. That's it.

Until they do, the inmates are running the asylum.

One thing to keep in mind is these protest are in moderate to extreme leftist urban areas. Sure we see some of it in CO. But we're fairly insulated from the real slash n burn lemmings. Who as we've seen with the BLM antics, destroy their own habitats

TFOGGER
04-29-2017, 09:03
Fucking trust fund hippies. Should I find myself confronted by them, I will do whatever is needed to ensure my safety, and that of my family. The fact that I *MAY* enjoy beating the ever living shit out of one or more of them is irrelevant.

Ah Pook
04-29-2017, 20:11
I'm a little concerned with their officer safety situation. Allowing that tard to be that close to me with a club of some type on his shoulder is definitely a no go.

Also, I will start using the term Hairy Tuna Canoe
Kev, I think the photos were staged. [Coffee]

Joe_K
04-29-2017, 21:49
If this were 1776 or even 1860 and the issues were the same as then, I'd likely have a different perspective on this (though I'd be on the side of rebels in the latter).

But it's not a foreign gov't we're talking about and we already govern ourselves. I've already mentioned that's part of the issue (ie: CA has the gov't they voted for). And it's not basically half the country we're talking about. It's small, relatively unorganized groups of stupid people that wouldn't normally have a message if it weren't for social media and other electronic venues...and a willing media always looking for sensationalism. We don't need a revolution and United States military personnel in the streets, killing people, to stop their nonsense. We need elected officials and the police to do their jobs. That's it.

It seems a little ironic you've made an analogy of what I said to fighting the oppressive and tyrannical Brits in our founding years when the article in the OP alludes to gov't soldiers in the streets wanting to kill US citizens.

ETA: And, BTW...I'm not saying it couldn't get to the point of armed conflict or that the police (or even citizens) shouldn't use deadly force against these idiots at some point, depending on what they're doing. I'm saying it's not there yet. Not even close to the point we should be talking about the military shooting people.
It was in jest, just attempting to lighten the mood a bit.

I did however see the irony in a nation founded by folks killing their own countrymen over gun bans, tax laws and tariffs turning into our current state where we stand by and watch over half the country clamoring for the destruction of America so they can feel morally superior about themselves or whatever nonsense they've bought into as their exscuse for wanting to enshrine all our current ridiculous self harming policies, and establish even more onerous ones, while removing all of the laws that have made our country the envy of the world for 241 years. I personally would not care if all the domestic enemies were driven into the sea, or given as a gift to Cuba, Mexico, and Venezuela.

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Gman
04-29-2017, 22:54
Fucking trust fund hippies. Should I find myself confronted by them, I will do whatever is needed to ensure my safety, and that of my family. The fact that I *MAY* enjoy beating the ever living shit out of one or more of them is irrelevant.
"I felt like my life was endangered, so I fought back."

"Then why were you smiling?"

Gman
04-30-2017, 12:16
...hence the phrase, "An armed society is a polite society."

Scanker19
04-30-2017, 18:20
I'll be honest I had no idea what these people are/am? I had to look them up. Turns out there's a bunch of videos on YouTube with them getting their asses kicked. Still not sure what they are or want.

hollohas
04-30-2017, 19:57
The OP rant had me on board until the "stateside kill". That's just effed up. I truly hope there is not a bunch of our military men itching to kill Americans, liberal or otherwise.

Also, the Federal Government might as well be a foreign government at this point. There is zero actual legit representation and it operates so far outside its constitutional limitations how can we possibly even call it American anymore?

And I am happy to see patriots stand up to the antifa. They get hit in the mouth enough, they will eventually stay home.

Eggysrun
04-30-2017, 20:19
I'd love to see the alt right and alt left settle things like gangs of new york style.

funkymonkey1111
04-30-2017, 20:32
The OP rant had me on board until the "stateside kill". That's just effed up. I truly hope there is not a bunch of our military men itching to kill Americans, liberal or otherwise.

Also, the Federal Government might as well be a foreign government at this point. There is zero actual legit representation and it operates so far outside it's constitutional limitations how can we possibly even call it American anymore?

And I am happy to see patriots stand up to the antifa. They get hit in the mouth enough, they will eventually stay home.


Exactly this. Once the U.S. Army is used against American citizens, they are my enemy, and the enemy of every other citizen within our borders. Now, you may [MOD Edit : Not here] to the thought of a "stateside kill" on an ANTIFA member, but just consider, next time, a hump on green welfare sailing SS109 through your brain because President Michelle or President Chelsea said so because they didn't care for your armed self.

CS1983
04-30-2017, 20:45
So you guys disagree with the portion of the oath which says domestic? How do you understand that, Americans or foreign enemies which have infiltrated the border -- do you have historical backing for your interpretation?

Is it ok for them to want to kill a human being overseas? If so, why?

Irving
04-30-2017, 21:09
Not that anyone asked me, but my primary issue with this piece in the OP is that it's way over blown compared to the level of threat. Like Scanker, I had to look up what Anitfa even is, except I didn't bother to look them up. Looks like at this stage they are pretty minimally a threat. Sure they're a bit more flamboyant than the usual protesters with the use of M80's and such, but the letter above seems to be putting them on the same level as ISIS or something. Where are they even showing up? Is it just one state? Is it all over the country? I've only even heard about them on here.

Bailey Guns
04-30-2017, 21:40
So you guys disagree with the portion of the oath which says domestic?

You're the only one that's come to that conclusion. I don't know how considering the context of the discussion and, like Irving said, the level of the threat. Just because these people don't think like you doesn't make them domestic enemies rising to a level of threat to where they need to be killed.

That's a pretty big step to take.

CS1983
04-30-2017, 22:44
You're the only one that's come to that conclusion. I don't know how considering the context of the discussion and, like Irving said, the level of the threat. Just because these people don't think like you doesn't make them domestic enemies rising to a level of threat to where they need to be killed.

That's a pretty big step to take.

I didn't write the OP. I didn't write the oath of enlistment. People took issue with the OP, and I pointed out that it is within the bounds of the oath of enlistment to kill domestic enemies.

I'm mainly interested in what allows a person to take umbrage with killing a Socialist who happens to be American but not a Muslim (or whatever flavor of enemy the "government" decides to pine-box good American young men for, in their generation), who happens to not be American. Pursuant to that, I'm wondering what the people taking umbrage with someone wanting to kill a domestic enemy (which is what the OP was addressing in that portion of the essay) have to say about that portion of the oath.

Personally speaking, my own views on "Antifa" et al., and the eradication of such folks, are probably much more nuanced than you might guess.

As I said in the thread about the "women's march", 99% of these people are being used for a global agenda and are useful idiots.

funkymonkey1111
04-30-2017, 22:47
I guess it all depends on what is a domestic enemy, and who is defining someone as such

CS1983
04-30-2017, 22:50
I guess it all depends on what is a domestic enemy, and who is defining someone as such

Well that's the rub, ain't it?

So what's your answer?

Here's a nitty gritty of the actual "law" behind it: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-19/under-what-conditions-can-us-army-engage-american-citizens-armys-civil-disturbances-

KevDen2005
04-30-2017, 23:25
Not that anyone asked me, but my primary issue with this piece in the OP is that it's way over blown compared to the level of threat. Like Scanker, I had to look up what Anitfa even is, except I didn't bother to look them up. Looks like at this stage they are pretty minimally a threat. Sure they're a bit more flamboyant than the usual protesters with the use of M80's and such, but the letter above seems to be putting them on the same level as ISIS or something. Where are they even showing up? Is it just one state? Is it all over the country? I've only even heard about them on here.

I also had to look it up. I think it's that I generally don't care what people's opinions are so rarely read up on them...

Except for yours....you can pretend that you were asked...

KevDen2005
04-30-2017, 23:26
Kev, I think the photos were staged. [Coffee]

Looking back at the photos I'm think you might be right. The whole set of photos is weird...but weird crap happens on a regular basis

BPTactical
05-01-2017, 05:20
Yeah, OK. I get it. They suck. We all know that. But I contend (and I may be the only one here who feels this way) that anyone who openly wishes and encourages violent revolution, even from a bunch of leftist pussies, hasn't really given the subject much thought.



That really doesn't sound like the words of a rational person. A stateside kill? WTF, dude? That's a thing now?

Its actually called a "CONUS" .

davsel
05-01-2017, 08:57
To understand where the Antifa movement is headed, and to understand what domestic enemies are, read up on the Weather Underground and Bill Ayers. Some of these people became university professors, and all became recently well funded.
Shooting them in the face is not out of the question.

Dave_L
05-01-2017, 09:24
I worry about the day someone has had enough of these antics and decides to do something. I fear it becomes the second "shot heard around the world". I also believe that is exactly what the left wants from all of this.

funkymonkey1111
05-01-2017, 12:14
I don't know this site, but came across this on facebook today. Video of AntiFa range day embedded in page

http://www.patdollard.com/antifa-respond-to-being-called-out-over-fake-guns-with-laughable-shooting-range-intimidation-video/

or, here's the same vid:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CywFbSdMVx0

Irving
05-01-2017, 12:18
I worry about the day someone has had enough of these antics and decides to do something. I fear it becomes the second "shot heard around the world". I also believe that is exactly what the left wants from all of this.

Yup, just like the big fight scene at the end of Twilight, Breaking Dawn-Part II.

Irving
05-01-2017, 12:21
To understand where the Antifa movement is headed, and to understand what domestic enemies are, read up on the Weather Underground and Bill Ayers. Some of these people became university professors, and all became recently well funded.
Shooting them in the face is not out of the question.

That'd go over well in front a jury.

"You say you killed these people based on similarities you believed them to have with other people from the recent past?"
"Yes, sir."
"And these anti-American monsters from the past, what did you say happened to them when left unchecked?"
"They became teachers and professors."
"Surely they killed people at some point?"
"Not to my knowledge."

izzy
05-01-2017, 12:29
I don't know this site, but came across this on facebook today. Video of AntiFa range day embedded in page

http://www.patdollard.com/antifa-respond-to-being-called-out-over-fake-guns-with-laughable-shooting-range-intimidation-video/

or, here's the same vid:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CywFbSdMVx0

I read about their "range day" apparently most of the firearms they had were fake.

davsel
05-01-2017, 12:34
That'd go over well in front a jury.

"You say you killed these people based on similarities you believed them to have with other people from the recent past?"
"Yes, sir."
"And these anti-American monsters from the past, what did you say happened to them when left unchecked?"
"They became teachers and professors."
"Surely they killed people at some point?"
"Not to my knowledge."

Here, I'll make it easy for you:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weather_Underground


ETA: I've realized there's really nothing I can do to help you, considering the Twilight reference.

Irving
05-01-2017, 12:44
I'm aware, but if that link to Wikipedia was all it took to justify shutting down some faction you disagree with by using lethal force, it would have been done already.

hollohas
05-01-2017, 17:27
So you guys disagree with the portion of the oath which says domestic? How do you understand that, Americans or foreign enemies which have infiltrated the border -- do you have historical backing for your interpretation?

Is it ok for them to want to kill a human being overseas? If so, why?

I most certainly don't disagree with it. I really do understand why it's there and am happy it is. I think there are domestic enemies that are far more mainstream and much more dangerous than these antifa douche bags. I don't think it's a bad thing to take pride in killing bad guys. Bad guys need to be gone. Nothing wrong with enjoying your job.

However, it was the "love to" part and the dares specifically that turned me off. Why the hell would anyone LOVE to have a chance to kill American citizens? He didn't say he'd love to fight for the American freedom and restore the individual liberty and constitutional government to it's rightful limited power. He said he and others would love the chance to kill Americans and dared them to take another step to violence so he would have the excuse.
WISHING that people would become domestic ememies is very different than being willing to defend against domestic enemies.

I am willing to defend my house against intruders. I wouldn't even feel bad about killing a bad guy who broke in, threatening my family. But do I go around daring criminals to break in because the idea of killing them gives me a hard-on? Hell no. That's crazy. Why the hell would I want to encourage someone, who may very well be the scum of the earth and have no good place on it, to take the step to threatening my house? No sane person would do that. But that's what this guy did.

Irving
05-01-2017, 17:40
Has this been vetted to have come from an actual vet or service member?

Gman
05-01-2017, 17:49
Yup, just like the big fight scene at the end of Twilight, Breaking Dawn-Part II.
There's a reference I will happily never understand.

roberth
05-01-2017, 18:01
There's a reference I will happily never understand.

Me either, now if Irving had referenced a man's movie like Dirty Harry I'd understand. :)

Bailey Guns
05-01-2017, 18:07
I most certainly don't disagree with it. I really do understand why it's there and am happy it is. I think there are domestic enemies that are far more mainstream and much more dangerous than these antifa douche bags. I don't think it's a bad thing to take pride in killing bad guys. Bad guys need to be gone. Nothing wrong with enjoying your job.

However, it was the "love to" part and the dares specifically that turned me off. Why the hell would anyone LOVE to have a chance to kill American citizens? He didn't say he'd love to fight for the American freedom and restore the individual liberty and constitutional government to it's rightful limited power. He said he and others would love the chance to kill Americans and dared them to take another step to violence so he would have the excuse.
WISHING that people would become domestic ememies is very different than being willing to defend against domestic enemies.

I am willing to defend my house against intruders. I wouldn't even feel bad about killing a bad guy who broke in, threatening my family. But do I go around daring criminals to break in because the idea of killing them gives me a hard-on? Hell no. That's crazy. Why the hell would I want to encourage someone, who may very well be the scum of the earth and have no good place on it, to take the step to threatening my house? No sane person would do that. But that's what this guy did.

Very good explanation. Wishing for something that would likely tear the country apart so you can get a "stateside kill". Anyone who wishes for that is just a douche.

Another thing I'll never understand about people wishing for revolution. They always assume it's going to turn out in their favor...like nothing can ever go wrong.

brutal
05-01-2017, 18:57
That'd go over well in front a jury.

"You say you killed these people based on similarities you believed them to have with other people from the recent past?"
"Yes, sir."
"And these anti-American monsters from the past, what did you say happened to them when left unchecked?"
"They became teachers and professors."
"Surely they killed people at some point?"
"Not to my knowledge."

Are you aware of Bill Ayers and WU history?

They blew up three of their own while making bombs.

theGinsue
05-01-2017, 19:07
I don't know this site, but came across this on facebook today. Video of AntiFa range day embedded in page

http://www.patdollard.com/antifa-respond-to-being-called-out-over-fake-guns-with-laughable-shooting-range-intimidation-video/

or, here's the same vid:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CywFbSdMVx0

That video was terrifying - terrifying I say. <sarcasm> Why? Let's see, they're shooting long guns at handgun distances. Ooooh, marksmen. Then, if you check out the second shooter, he's supporting the front of his AR by pulling back on the mag where it meets the well. Anyone here ever try that WITHOUT resulting in a FTF? Yeah, me either.

I can't abide by true fascists either, but today that term has been redefined to mean anyone not on the far left. If being of conservative and constitutionally sound ideology now makes me a fascist, I'll wear that badge proudly. If we want to maintain the true definition of what a fascist is, I'll condemn them with my dying breath.

Now, as to the whole wanting a "stateside kill" or hoping for civil war... Where do I begin? I'm with Brother hollohas; I desire neither. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that, given the situation, I'll go out of my way to avoid either possibility; but... Again, as Hollohas stated, should the safety or well-being of myself, family or friends be in jeopardy due to the actions of these Antifas or any other left-wing (and right-wing for that matter) group, I will do everything in my power to protect me and mine.

Many here have said that this group (the Antifas) pose no threat. I disagree. I believe that they are one element of useful idiots being hyped up by a person or persons unknown acting as a master puppeteer. Look at all of these groups (Antifas, Occupy, BLM, feminist protesters, LGBT protesters, Green Party, and on and on). All of these groups are curiously well funded and are typically protesting either totally bogus issues or issues that they themselves could resolve without protest through hard work and effort. Many of the "spontaneous" and "impromptu" large scale protests in the last 5 years have amazingly had hundreds of signs printed up for their cause-du-jour. Someone(s) manipulating these people into believing they're among the most egregiously victimized group in our nation. There is definitely an effort to destabilize this country and more and more people are falling sway to the false hype. So, are the Antifas really any sort of threat? Likely not by themselves, but combined with the other victim groups they certainly have the potential to become very dangerous. Look at the progression of violence coming out of thes groups over the last 8-10 years. While it's M-80's today, what will it be in a year or two when they see they're not getting what they've been told them deserve? A look at the history of many other nations can give you an idea of where this is going and it doesn't bode well for us. Can we simply dismiss the Antifa movement as essentially harmless? By themselves, sure, but if you're looking at the whole puzzle you should at least be concerned.

Ridge
05-01-2017, 19:13
If you say in one breathe that their ideals can never take over the country, and then in the next say that you're defending the Constitution from these people, then you have some cognitive dissonance.

Gman
05-01-2017, 19:23
Me either, now if Irving had referenced a man's movie like Dirty Harry I'd understand. :)
Yeah, something like...

http://youtu.be/_VrFV5r8cs0

roberth
05-01-2017, 19:52
Excellent points made by Hollohas and TheGinsue. Thanks guys.

Never underestimate the enemy.

Ronin13
05-02-2017, 15:57
Allow me to put a little context into the phrase "stateside kill" in the modern use vernacular, since it appears this author has bastardized it. The widespread use of it came from Mat "M Best" Best, former US Army Ranger and now YouTube/Internet celebrity (also CEO of ART15 clothing company). He first coined the term during a video where he had hoped ISIS would try to invade the US so he and his buddies could attain a "stateside kill." To mean, kill an enemy combatant while here in the US instead of on deployment. It was in no way to be attributed to the killing of US citizens who have different beliefs (as far as I read into it) by US veterans.

Now, if the US government wants to declare Antifa enemies of the state, that's a whole different can of worms... I just find it ironic that they call themselves "Anti-Facist" when they actually are promoting facism by shutting down different views, regardless of the First Amendment to the Constitution. Clearly they're just all idiots and/or liberal lemmings following the "cool" trend.

Gman
05-02-2017, 16:01
Clearly they're just all idiots and/or liberal lemmings following the "cool" trend.
The term "cool" being highly subjective, of course. I've never considered anyone advertising their stupidity to be "cool".

Ronin13
05-02-2017, 16:05
The term "cool" being highly subjective, of course. I've never considered anyone advertising their stupidity to be "cool".

True. I've never considered anything liberals jump on board with in the last 25 years as "cool."