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A friend was talking about a guy he grew up with that he said was amazing with a rifle. The story was that he hit a plastic deer at 2000 yards first try. The claim was that it was a 30-06 bolt action rifle using iron sights. I think at that distance with iron sights the sights would totally obscure the target and more. Outside of luck is this even remotely possible?
I figured as much, I'm guessing the event actually happened but probably was 200 yards. I tried to be nice a bout it but basically told the guy no way in hell. "first shot" lol
Show me a human that can even SEE a deer at 2000 yards!
When your a kid 200yrds does seem like 2000.I.m lucky I can see past my nose sometimes....[Coffee]
if you've ever done any shooting at 1000, or beyond, then hear someone make a claim of 2000, or beyond, with open sights, you'll just giggle and move on.
Maybe if you're shooting at a bright orange bread truck.....
Bailey Guns
04-30-2017, 12:20
It's been "possible" for a long time:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/843705/posts
BushMasterBoy
04-30-2017, 12:35
Thats the only way to shoot a riding lawn mower full of tannerite.
Thats the only way to shoot a riding lawn mower full of tannerite.
...without losing part of a leg.
I bet he made that 2000 yard shot off-hand at a deer in full run.
A friend was talking about a guy he grew up with that he said was amazing with a rifle. The story was that he hit a plastic deer at 2000 yards first try. The claim was that it was a 30-06 bolt action rifle using iron sights. I think at that distance with iron sights the sights would totally obscure the target and more. Outside of luck is this even remotely possible?
Ya that's bs!
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Maybe if you're shooting at a bright orange bread truck.....
What do you have against bread?
OtterbatHellcat
04-30-2017, 18:10
Might have been the truck, dunno.
GilpinGuy
04-30-2017, 19:52
Over a mile? [hahhah-no]
Unless the plastic deer was 50 feet high.
Circuits
04-30-2017, 21:52
Can't even see that size target at over a mile without magnification. However, if using a spotting scope to scope out the target area, then taking the actual shot on irons only, but with the target picture first scoped thoroughly on high magnification, maybe.
What do you have against bread?
Well, OK. How about a bright orange UPS truck?
StagLefty
05-01-2017, 07:26
Well, OK. How about a bright orange UPS truck?
What have you got against packages ? [ROFL2]
Martinjmpr
05-01-2017, 08:07
Wouldn't you have to super-elevate the muzzle like a howitzer in order to do that?
I know some old military rifle had those ladder sights that were graduated out to 1500 or more yards. But I thought the idea wasn't so much to hit an individual target but to rain bullets down on the enemy's head, especially during WW1 trench combat?
wctriumph
05-01-2017, 14:19
Watching that guy shoot at the buffalo, given that many tries with all those spotters, I feel that I could do that with my M1.
I was witness to a 700+ yard first shot hit on a mud hen by a guy with a scoped Rem 700 in .25-06. I was watching with binoculars and the shooter was surprised as all get out that he made the shot.
After talking to him about it again we measured the distance using google maps. It was about 2000 feet not yards. Mystery solved.
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After talking to him about it again we measured the distance using google maps. It was about 2000 feet not yards. Mystery solved.
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He shot across a road w/ low visibility on either horizontal path of travel? eek
I guess so, it wasn't him but "someone he grew up with". Apparently that's all private land in the picture too.
694 yards is still a long way. Well, to me it is.
694 yards is still a long way. Well, to me it is.
But vaguely possible, given the right conditions, and an amazing amount of luck.
Anyone got a plastic deer? I can arrange 694 yards.
Anyone got a plastic deer? I can arrange 694 yards.
That's what I was thinking.
That's what I was thinking.
Hell, I'll try with the SKS. I know first shot is out, but it would be fun. Maybe a Mosin....
Kazoo tells me that the old war rifle I got could make that shot. I'm sure I couldn't, but the rifle can.
It'd be fun to try with some Kentucky windage.
That's a little more reasonable. I couldn't do it, but someone else surely could.
Still, if the range was unknown at the time, as it evidently was, this was nothing but luck. Lots and LOTS of luck.
Great-Kazoo
05-02-2017, 06:58
Anyone got a plastic deer? I can arrange 694 yards.
That's what I was thinking.
Do i sense another Shooting Challenge ?
I'm in. be lucky to see the firing line, let along 600+ yds. I do have an sks if needed. Who's the lucky person to be down range for verification, that's the question.
I sense another shooting challenge that never materializes.
Marines shoot 500 yards w/ irons w/ 5.56; I don't see why a 30-06 would be some crazy thing. He'd essentially have to aim about 1.5 deer above the deer and probably ~25"L/R for wind if 10mph and full value.
It's not a typical shot, but it's not like he's doing something where we wanna see it on myth busters.
I sense another shooting challenge that never materializes.
Need a deer, or a plywood deer, and we can kill it this weekend. As long as the wind wasnt like it was this past Sunday
Just measured our shooting spot. Izzy is familiar with it. From the line to the fence is 2150ft (ish) according to google maps.
I'm in! Let me know when this goes down if it does.
How far away would this be?
Would be the cheapest competition concerning ammo needs in the history of man... lol
"One Shot Challenge"
cfortune
05-02-2017, 09:55
It took me 43 rounds to hit a torso sized silhouette at that distance with my M1A. Couldn't even see the target when aiming down the sights.
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It took me 43 rounds to hit a torso sized silhouette at that distance with my M1A. Couldn't even see the target when aiming down the sights.
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Look man, your own deficiencies in marksmanship are not our concern.
:D
(jk)
cfortune
05-02-2017, 10:04
Look man, your own deficiencies in marksmanship are not our concern.
:D
(jk)
Hahaha. They should be considering I only wear ar-15.co gear to the range and claim a forum sponsorship.
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Marines shoot 500 yards w/ irons w/ 5.56; I don't see why a 30-06 would be some crazy thing. He'd essentially have to aim about 1.5 deer above the deer and probably ~25"L/R for wind if 10mph and full value.
It's not a typical shot, but it's not like he's doing something where we wanna see it on myth busters.
I've done the USMC rifle qual (with actual rules- 200, 300 and 500 meter targets, iron sights, no optics) hitting a green man-shaped target. I scored 235/250 (50 targets, 5 pts per target), it's difficult, but not impossible. Furthest out with an M-16 I've ever attempted was 750 meters, and it took several attempts to hit an 18" steel plate.
leatherneck448
05-04-2017, 09:06
I've done the USMC rifle qual (with actual rules- 200, 300 and 500 meter targets, iron sights, no optics) hitting a green man-shaped target. I scored 235/250 (50 targets, 5 pts per target), it's difficult, but not impossible.
The rules on the range are that you shoot with all your issued gear on the weapon (anything you've got cards for), so pretty much everyone shoots with an ACOG nowadays. Most of the time if your armorers are cool they'll remove any attachments you've got before you get to range week, but lord help the poor bastard who pisses the armorers off, he's the one on the firing line shooting 2's, 3's, and Mikes with a can, a PEQ-16, and a 203 hanging off his rifle.
Best I've gotten on the range here was a 243/250, but I'm sure some folks will say that it doesn't count because it wasn't "Old Corps" enough ;)
wctriumph
05-06-2017, 00:21
Well, that farthest shot I made for a measured distance was 600 yards at a black bear silhouette. It was painted bright orange and hard to see. I raised the rear sight to the 600 yard mark and fired. This was in November 2005 in CA at the gun club a Lake Isabella up above Bakersfield on a nice calm and sunny day. The old guys said it couldn't be done with the M1. The first shot hit about two feet or so low so I adjusted up slightly and the next 7 round all hit the target. You could hear then smack the steel from that far away. One of the old guys asked what my load was and I showed him my south korean surplus bandoleers. It felt good to have done that.
I would be up for a iron sight long distance shoot, on a Sunday or Monday not too far from Ft. Collins. My eyes are 12 years older now but I trust the M1.
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