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islandermyk
05-02-2017, 00:15
... letting go of something you put a lot of heart, blood, sweat, and tears into...?
... and the darn thing is just putting more headache than peace of mind....
Take pictures of it so you can just look at the Jeep, or whatever the thing might be, whenever you're feeling nostalgic. Being totally serious.
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 00:18
.. this is similar to why I fell from the shooting community... and just don't want to fall from the face of the earth with this same shit as well....
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 00:19
Take pictures of it so you can just look at the Jeep, or whatever the thing might be, whenever you're feeling nostalgic. Being totally serious.
That's the problem... It's my Jeep... it breaks my heart what's happening to it. From one problem to another... it finally broke me yesterday.
I'm planning on stripping it down and selling it.
It's just stuff. You can always get another one. Older, newer, whatever; it's not like they'll be banned any time soon.
It's always when I really put a lot of work into something that I lose it, or it dies, or gets totaled, or something.
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 00:27
It's just stuff. You can always get another one. Older, newer, whatever; it's not like they'll be banned any time soon.
It's always when I really put a lot of work into something that I lose it, or it dies, or gets totaled, or something.
Got yah.... I'm trying to thump that mindset in.... and it's still hitting me kinda hard
Well, try another angle. If all you're getting out of it now is trouble, then you've gotten all the joy out of that Jeep that you're going to get. You've reached 100% of the possible joy you can get, and keeping it longer will just soil the good memories that you have now. Every month you waste holding on to it is stealing a month of joy from whatever the next thing that is out there waiting for you. Good luck!
GilpinGuy
05-02-2017, 01:03
I feel ya man. I sold my Jeep last August to buy an F 150 Super Crew from a forum member. I poured hundreds of hours of labor into that Heep and loved it. My favorite vehicle ever.
The F 150 is nice too. Much nicer actually. I have many awesome memories with the Heep, but now I'm making more with the new truck with my kids. [Flower]
What is wrong with it? Need help?
Great-Kazoo
05-02-2017, 06:52
Easy.
https://denver.craigslist.org/
PARTING OUT (INSERT YEAR) jeep.
Well loved jeep with too many accessories to list. Buy it all or in parts. SOLD AS IS .
it's an inanimate object..
Here's how to look at it w/out getting all weepy.
IF this was your business OR a spouse who you've invested shit loads of time, money and heart in to. BUT.... for some reason became more of a burden than joy. You'd drop it ASAP without looking back. Sure there would be those times you waxed nostalgic over the great memories. Yet in the long run you knew it was time to part ways.
Its a piece of the earths crust. Get over it. Don't you have a sick and dying relative, friend or dog to worry about? Do you owe me money?
Its just a car. You might find youre less stressed wothout the money pit looming over you. Ive learned to not attach myself too hard to a car. Its an object so it only gives you the happiness you allow it to and it sounds like its not giving you a lot of happiness lately so why keep it? I sold my 65 mustang when the project was too much. I felt 100% better when it wasnt constantly staring at me.
Martinjmpr
05-02-2017, 08:20
The older I get the more I realize that the most precious commodity we have is TIME. If the Jeep is costing you that and not bringing you pleasure then cherish the memories and kick it to the curb. The time you save will be much more precious than the "dream" you lost.
BTW as I learned a few months ago there's no better way to force you to evaluate all the crap you hang on to than to move to a new house. Carrying big heavy boxes of crap that you haven't touched for years makes you say "why am I doing this again?"
I had a 99 Montero that vectorsc and I put a LOT of time into. We did some crazy things with it, mechanically speaking. We converted it from an automatic to a manual. Involved a lot of time and thought, cus the 99 never came as a manual transmission vehicle (supposedly it did in other markets but not North America). I once swore I'd never sell it due to the investment of effort that went into it. Then I sold it. Was a welcome relief. Guy who bought it was tickled pink. All he had to do was maintain it, instead of do a bunch of work. It was "everything he ever wanted". He drove it home to Florida happy as a redneck in a manual, lifted, chimera of a Montero. Was a relief.
I miss the 84 300zx, I miss the 1989 Suburban, but I don't miss all the work.
Sell it, move on, enjoy the free time.
bside303
05-02-2017, 08:55
You will always have your hair........
Sold an '81 CJ and a '99 Titan Phoenix that became more trouble than they were worth. I still have fond memories of the good times we had together, but also remember why they're gone.
But the '74 Bronco and the '09 Street Glide I lost in a couple of divorces still hurts.
KevDen2005
05-02-2017, 08:56
I know you loved that jeep man. Lots of great times from gawking at it behind The Tailgate to hitting a bunch of trails. You were smart with that ride and how you found parts you wanted through craigslist. New opportunities will come and you will have fun putting together another one.
hurley842002
05-02-2017, 08:58
I guess I'm the opposite. I've put lots of time and money into rigs over the years, but as soon as they start breaking down or giving me problems, I tend to become eager to part ways with them. There again, I don't get too attached to guns or other items either (hence my Glock hooker designation).
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funkymonkey1111
05-02-2017, 09:06
Is this thread a joke?
KevDen2005
05-02-2017, 09:29
I guess I'm the opposite. I've put lots of time and money into rigs over the years, but as soon as they start breaking down or giving me problems, I tend to become eager to part ways with them. There again, I don't get too attached to guns or other items either (hence my Glock hooker designation).
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Ah, I thought you just let people take your Glock to a hotel in a bad area of town for an hour at a time
hurley842002
05-02-2017, 09:55
Ah, I thought you just let people take your Glock to a hotel in a bad area of town for an hour at a time
That's a premium service, that most can't afford.
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Half a thought. Disregard.
Well, try another angle. If all you're getting out of it now is trouble, then you've gotten all the joy out of that Jeep that you're going to get. You've reached 100% of the possible joy you can get, and keeping it longer will just soil the good memories that you have now. Every month you waste holding on to it is stealing a month of joy from whatever the next thing that is out there waiting for you. Good luck!
That's a novel approach/mindset... i kind of like it.
Martinjmpr
05-02-2017, 11:36
I think our brains are wired to be susceptible to the "sunk costs" fallacy, i.e. "I've spent X dollars and Y hours on it, and if I give it up, then all that time/money has been wasted." But a better way to think about it is what it will cost you in the FUTURE in terms of both time and money.
Put another way, what's past is past, but you still have control over what's to come in the future. Let it be someone else's headache/dream and move on to a new one of your own. ;)
This is also why I generally like buying cars that are complete or about 90% complete now. It prevents me from being emotionally invested in the car and I get to the enjoyment phase of the car a lot quicker, if not instantly.
I had considered buying a Jeep at one point, but then hearing about people who own them, sounds too much like they have a shoddy reliability record. Over 1/2 of the people I know with Jeeps have reported many issues with them breaking down a lot. I would love to hear more about them actually being quite reliable. At least with Ford they circled the problem... [Coffee]
hurley842002
05-02-2017, 15:35
I had considered buying a Jeep at one point, but then hearing about people who own them, sounds too much like they have a shoddy reliability record. Over 1/2 of the people I know with Jeeps have reported many issues with them breaking down a lot. I would love to hear more about them actually being quite reliable. At least with Ford they circled the problem... [Coffee]
The Wrangler is one of those vehicles with such demand, that it can sustain mediocre reliability, and folks will still buy them. There is nobody making a 4x4 these days, that is so customizable, along with the removable top option. If Jeep still had to compete against Ford, Chevy, International, Suzuki, Toyota etc, they may have to try harder.
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The Wrangler is one of those vehicles with such demand, that it can sustain mediocre reliability, and folks will still buy them. There is nobody making a 4x4 these days, that is so customizable, along with the removable top option. If Jeep still had to compete against Ford, Chevy, International, Suzuki, Toyota etc, they may have to try harder.
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The Scout, now that was an awesome beast! I always wanted one. My Frontier is pretty customizable for a new(er) pickup, but not to the extent of a jeep, but then again I need it to be a daily driver as well as a get out off the beaten path for camping rig.
hurley842002
05-02-2017, 16:18
The Scout, now that was an awesome beast! I always wanted one.
I had a 74 Scout II, loved that thing, and the top rarely stayed on it. Mild lift with 33's, that thing was a beast!
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Martinjmpr
05-02-2017, 16:22
I had considered buying a Jeep at one point, but then hearing about people who own them, sounds too much like they have a shoddy reliability record. Over 1/2 of the people I know with Jeeps have reported many issues with them breaking down a lot. I would love to hear more about them actually being quite reliable. At least with Ford they circled the problem... [Coffee]
Given how much abuse they can take, they're pretty rugged. Wife has a 1995 YJ. 1995 was the last year of the YJ and hers is as stripped-down as you can get: 2.5l I-4, 5 speed transmission and manual steering!
I call it "the time machine" because driving it is like stepping back in time to a day when all cars had flat windshields, heavy steering wheels and grocery-cart handling.
At almost 200k and 22+ years, it's still going strong. The one time we had to be towed home it was because the bad alternator left us with a dead battery and no way to power the ignition. Every now and then she talks about selling it but then she'll turn around and say she wants to give it to her granddaughter on the granddaughter's 16th birthday (she turns 5 in August.)
They are fun toys, but toys are what they are. My wife got it in 2012 after her nerve injury forced her to sell her motorcycle.
At this point, it's not really costing us a lot in upkeep, though we did have to have a fuel tank vent repaired in order to pass emissions in 2016. I think that ran $600 or so. But considering that it's paid for, that insurance and registration together don't add up to more than $200/year it's a pretty cheap toy.
Martinjmpr
05-02-2017, 16:24
I had a 74 Scout II, loved that thing, and the top rarely stayed on it. Mild lift with 33's, that thing was a beast!
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The only problem with Scouts is that they had serious rust issues, especially on the fenders. Try finding one without rust, most likely it's been rebuilt or had fenders replaced.
My first two trucks were corn binders. I had a 1957 Travelall (basically the same thing as a Suburban) and a 1968 Travelall. Both were tough as hell and uglier than original sin.
BTW as I learned a few months ago there's no better way to force you to evaluate all the crap you hang on to than to move to a new house. Carrying big heavy boxes of crap that you haven't touched for years makes you say "why am I doing this again?"
That's my focus. Downsizing and getting rid of stuff that I haven't used in years. If I do need it later, I'll buy another. So far, that hasn't happened. I want my next move to be as painless as possible.
There is nobody making a 4x4 these days, that is so customizable, along with the removable top option.
Jeeps are like AR-15s....Legos for men.
DireWolf
05-02-2017, 16:38
I had considered buying a Jeep at one point, but then hearing about people who own them, sounds too much like they have a shoddy reliability record. Over 1/2 of the people I know with Jeeps have reported many issues with them breaking down a lot. I would love to hear more about them actually being quite reliable. At least with Ford they circled the problem... [Coffee]
They're usually very solid if properly maintained (have owned a number of them over the years), the problems you hear about are most often related to breaking them doing something stupid/fun that you would never even think about trying in another vehicle.....
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Or modifying them to dimensions that reduce reliability.
Or modifying them to dimensions that reduce reliability.
Cheap, fast, reliable. Pick 2.
Delfuego
05-02-2017, 17:10
That's the problem... It's my Jeep...We knew Mike. Let us help you. We will go shopping for a Toyota with you. We are here for you brother. It's time to come to in from the cold.
Grant H.
05-02-2017, 17:25
What the OP is going through is why I quit wheeling.
I got so tired of breaking things, and I wasn't willing to go to the extent of building a buggy.
I still see my jeep, as I sold it (plus rust) driving around and I get a twinge of "that was fun, I need one again", but then I remember all the time spent fixing broken stuff, and the nostalgia goes away... Really fast...
I'm about there with my diesel. I love the truck, and I enjoy having a tuned diesel, but I'm tired of the little things and the hassles...
Grant H.
05-02-2017, 17:25
We knew Mike. Let us help you. We will go shopping for a Toyota with you. We are here for you brother. It's time to come to in from the cold.
Don't do it...
Taco's aren't worth it.
My opinion...
ThunderSquirrel
05-02-2017, 17:32
Or buy this....
I'm in your situation, need to let it go. So we're helping each other out, ha.
70370
Delfuego
05-02-2017, 17:44
Don't do it...
Taco's aren't worth it.
My opinion...Just keep everything stock. Aftermarket is where you loose all your money. Doesn't matter the brand...
Just lease a Ford Ranger and call it good.
Grant H.
05-02-2017, 18:14
Just keep everything stock. Aftermarket is where you loose all your money. Doesn't matter the brand...
Oh, I know... Just poking at you. Sorry.
The two people I know who have had Taco's have, unfortunately, been examples of why not to buy them. Extremely expensive for a mini-truck, and big issues. I know they are outliers, but it is what it is.
Fentonite
05-02-2017, 18:20
Brother Mike, you know I can't help it...
http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz339/fentonite/93E9B419-90CE-4080-B260-CD07FE620CDB.jpg (http://s841.photobucket.com/user/fentonite/media/93E9B419-90CE-4080-B260-CD07FE620CDB.jpg.html)
Martinjmpr
05-02-2017, 18:27
I never had a lick of trouble with my 4 Toyotas but after I sold my 4Runner I decided I was done paying the "Toyota tax."
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hurley842002
05-02-2017, 18:28
Don't do it...
Taco's aren't worth it.
My opinion...
Can't tell if serious...
I bought my 02, drove it for 2 years adding 50k miles, and traded it in for the same amount I purchased it for. Now I'm not a Taco fanboy, and actually drive a Nissan now, but there is no denying that Tacomas are absolutely worth it, as long as you don't mind paying the price up front.
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Grant H.
05-02-2017, 18:49
Can't tell if serious...
I bought my 02, drove it for 2 years adding 50k miles, and traded it in for the same amount I purchased it for. Now I'm not a Taco fanboy, and actually drive a Nissan now, but there is no denying that Tacomas are absolutely worth it, as long as you don't mind paying the price up front.
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Extremely over priced mini-truck, oh and the two that I have known personally have had catastrophic failures with factory parts...
Sure, they hold their value well due to the cult following, but if you want a truck to use as a truck? No thanks. Especially with the new ones that have plastic beds.
Much better options for mini-trucks out there.
hurley842002
05-02-2017, 19:10
Extremely over priced mini-truck, oh and the two that I have known personally have had catastrophic failures with factory parts...
Sure, they hold their value well due to the cult following, but if you want a truck to use as a truck? No thanks. Especially with the new ones that have plastic beds.
Much better options for mini-trucks out there.
Wow, the whole two you have known, what a large number...
Myself and millions of others will have to agree to disagree with you on the usefulness, quality, and value of the Tacoma pickup.
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Zundfolge
05-02-2017, 19:17
How do you handle... letting go of something you put a lot of heart, blood, sweat, and tears into...?
... and the darn thing is just putting more headache than peace of mind....
It really depends on the check you get when its all said and done. Yeah I can be bought :p
(I really hope this isn't about a breakup or divorce or I come off as an inconsiderate prick).
Of course I say that and yet I have a Jeep for sale ... and now this thread is making me feel guilty...like I"m about to drop off a puppy with people I know aren't going to take good care of it.
Grant H.
05-02-2017, 19:24
Wow, the whole two you have known, what a large number...
Myself and millions of others will have to agree to disagree with you on the usefulness, quality, and value of the Tacoma pickup.
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I did tag it as my opinion... So, yeah...
You're welcome to your opinion as well.
Amazing how that works...
Anyway...
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 19:36
Well, try another angle. If all you're getting out of it now is trouble, then you've gotten all the joy out of that Jeep that you're going to get. You've reached 100% of the possible joy you can get, and keeping it longer will just soil the good memories that you have now. Every month you waste holding on to it is stealing a month of joy from whatever the next thing that is out there waiting for you. Good luck!
Thank you!!! [Beer]
It really depends on the check you get when its all said and done. Yeah I can be bought :p
(I really hope this isn't about a breakup or divorce or I come off as an inconsiderate prick).
Of course I say that and yet I have a Jeep for sale ... and now this thread is making me feel guilty...like I"m about to drop off a puppy with people I know aren't going to take good care of it.
I was going to say he should just buy your Jeep and start all over again.
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 19:39
What is wrong with it? Need help?
CPU needs flashing... I''ve already had enough dealing with one problem to the next without getting a break from all of it.
Called stealeerships and they are going to charge me $150 just for diagnostics.
If you can do better... My ears are open [Beer]
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 19:47
We knew Mike. Let us help you. We will go shopping for a Toyota with you. We are here for you brother. It's time to come to in from the cold.
Bwhahahaha! Love you man!
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 19:52
Brother Mike, you know I can't help it...
http://i841.photobucket.com/albums/zz339/fentonite/93E9B419-90CE-4080-B260-CD07FE620CDB.jpg (http://s841.photobucket.com/user/fentonite/media/93E9B419-90CE-4080-B260-CD07FE620CDB.jpg.html)
Bwhahahahaha! Shit man.... I needed that!
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 19:54
I was going to say he should just buy your Jeep and start all over again.
Don't say it [LOL]
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 19:58
You guys make some really awesome points....
The faster I get rid of it... the happier I'll be...
Thank you all for everything!
I'm gonna get a beater for a daily and get back into shooting again.... and maybe race my bike now....
Just thinking of this and after reading your comments... I actually feel good about getting rid of the Jeep. [Beer]
Grant H.
05-02-2017, 20:14
You guys make some really awesome points....
The faster I get rid of it... the happier I'll be...
Thank you all for everything!
I'm gonna get a beater for a daily and get back into shooting again.... and maybe race my bike now....
Just thinking of this and after reading your comments... I actually feel good about getting rid of the Jeep. [Beer]
Two wheel therapy is good. So is bang therapy. I quit wheeling to spend more time shooting, and haven't looked back.
They canceled round 1 for the MRA, so you could still get back in for a full season! My brother is back on a 600 this year, we've been building his R6 and it's actually gonna be complete now. I plan to race super street this year.
Or buy this....
I'm in your situation, need to let it go. So we're helping each other out, ha.
70370
How much?? I'll give you a crisp $2 bill right now for that thing!
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 20:25
Two wheel therapy is good. So is bang therapy. I quit wheeling to spend more time shooting, and haven't looked back.
They canceled round 1 for the MRA, so you could still get back in for a full season! My brother is back on a 600 this year, we've been building his R6 and it's actually gonna be complete now. I plan to race super street this year.
That's the plan for me as well now... I raced a full season. I don't think I'm ready for that now, but I will do'em track days and the super street this year for sure.
The shooting part is gonna be better now... especially now that there are materials more readily available these days. It's gonna be a fun year [Coffee]
Grant H.
05-02-2017, 20:37
That's the plan for me as well now... I raced a full season. I don't think I'm ready for that now, but I will do'em track days and the super street this year for sure.
The shooting part is gonna be better now... especially now that there are materials more readily available these days. It's gonna be a fun year [Coffee]
Awesome, well, if there is anything we can do to help when you are out there, let me know!
islandermyk
05-02-2017, 21:11
Awesome, well, if there is anything we can do to help when you are out there, let me know!
Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!!![Beer]
Delfuego
05-02-2017, 21:28
I'm gonna get a beater for a daily and get back into shooting again....Look for a 4th generation 4runner. They are much cheaper than Tacoma's and will get you 90% of a place a Jeep would. If you find one I have a Toyota guy near you that can check it out before you buy.
Love you too brother [Beer]
Raton is this weekend if you really want to shoot :)
Great-Kazoo
05-02-2017, 22:32
22 hrs later and you haven't dumped that boat anchor?
If having a money pit of a vehicle was my biggest problem, i'd be a happy camper.
It's about time you got yourself a woman. There's a hole you can drop money in ;)
funkymonkey1111
05-02-2017, 23:04
There's a hole you can drop money in ;)
now that's a good one
ThunderSquirrel
05-03-2017, 08:16
How much?? I'll give you a crisp $2 bill right now for that thing!
Will need a couple more $2 bills... Haha
Will need a couple more $2 bills... Haha
Deal, $8 paid in $2 bills. :D
Zundfolge
05-03-2017, 13:05
I was going to say he should just buy your Jeep and start all over again.
Well that would be the most logical course of action :)
Mike, I've got a Jeep. Its nothing like yours- but you can come by and kick the tires, tsk at the little antifreeze puddles it leaves on the driveway, and bask in the glow of its presence whenever you need to. It may help. :)
Just put one of these on your future projects list you long haired hippie.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/8a60fc28b5337ad9e96702051b6318fc.jpeg
islandermyk
05-04-2017, 23:41
Mike, I've got a Jeep. Its nothing like yours- but you can come by and kick the tires, tsk at the little antifreeze puddles it leaves on the driveway, and bask in the glow of its presence whenever you need to. It may help. :)
Thanks... I think it will help... if.....
Just put one of these on your future projects list you long haired hippie.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170504/8a60fc28b5337ad9e96702051b6318fc.jpeg
Hahahahaha! It's missing the "tie dye" paint scheme [ROFL1]
islandermyk
05-04-2017, 23:42
... continued on new thread....
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