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Gman
05-04-2017, 20:47
'Good Samaritan' Kills Active Shooter in Texas Restaurant: Police (http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/good-samaritan-kills-active-shooter-in-texas-restaurant-police/ar-BBAL3Gc)

A "good Samaritan" with a gun killed an active shooter who may have been gearing up for a deadly rampage at a Texas sports bar Wednesday night, police said.

When 48-year-old James Jones walked inside the Zona Caliente Sports Bar, started yelling and then allegedly shot and killed Cesar Perez — a 37-year-old restaurant manager who'd attempted to calm him down — Arlington police said witnesses were afraid they would be next.

In addition to the gun used to kill Perez, police say Jones had another semiautomatic pistol and two knives on him. The serial number on the second gun had been scratched off, and Jones did not have a gun license, police said.

"He definitely had the capacity, if he wanted, to commit further violence and potentially kill other patrons in the business," Arlington Police Lieutenant Chris Cook told NBC News, adding that it did not appear that the shooter knew his victim.

An armed "good Samaritan" — as the Arlington Police labeled him — happened to be eating at the restaurant with his wife. A concealed carry permit holder, he told her to get down on the ground and then shot Jones in the back.

"I don't think the shooter even knew where the rounds were coming from because he started shooting at the front door," Cook said, who described the scene as "chaotic."

Police reviewed video surveillance and pieced together the incident via witness interviews, but it remains unclear how many shots were fired by either individual. Police were looking into Jones' background to see whether he suffered from any mental illnesses and were awaiting test results to find out if he was under the influence.

The man who took down Jones wished to maintain his anonymity, police said, noting that he felt overwhelmed but relieved that he prevented further violence.

"We're thankful that the good 'Samaritan' acted quickly and decisively to end the threat," Cook said. "We never recommend people get involved. That's a personal decision that a citizen has to make."

Use of force and firearms expert Emanuel Kapelsohn told NBC News that, from his understanding, the man who took down the shooter reacted appropriately.

"I think it's to be applauded," he said. "Not everybody in the world ought to own a gun. Not everybody in the world ought to carry a gun. Not everyone in the world ought to engage an armed criminal where innocent people could be potentially injured."

"But this good Samaritan obviously had the ability to do what he did," Kapelsohn added. "Who knows how many people would be dead if he had not acted?"

BushMasterBoy
05-04-2017, 20:59
They ought to give the guy a medal. And secretly a big money check.

Bailey Guns
05-04-2017, 22:29
Nice job.

cstone
05-04-2017, 22:58
They ought to give the guy a medal. And secretly a big money check.

How about a year of no taxes owed to the government? This is the type of shooting that saves taxpayers a pretty good amount of money and the good Samaritan should see a percentage of that savings. Paying too much money might give the appearance of a bounty and that may bring out some people who might not be acting in the best interest of society.

Just an idea.

GilpinGuy
05-04-2017, 23:37
Awesome.

bobbyfairbanks
05-05-2017, 06:37
How about a year of no taxes owed to the government? This is the type of shooting that saves taxpayers a pretty good amount of money and the good Samaritan should see a percentage of that savings. Paying too much money might give the appearance of a bounty and that may bring out some people who might not be acting in the best interest of society.

Just an idea.


I like it. Save a life get a tax break.

theGinsue
05-05-2017, 07:15
How about a year of no taxes owed to the government? This is the type of shooting that saves taxpayers a pretty good amount of money and the good Samaritan should see a percentage of that savings. Paying too much money might give the appearance of a bounty and that may bring out some people who might not be acting in the best interest of society.

Just an idea.

I think you may be on to something. Excellent idea!


I like it. Save a life get a tax break.

ray1970
05-05-2017, 07:34
If they cut me a big tax break I'd likely kill a few of you at random and claim you were about to do something diabolical.

UncleDave
05-05-2017, 10:34
If they cut me a big tax break I'd likely kill a few of you at random and claim you were about to do something diabolical.

Leave it to Ray. This is why we can't have nice things! [LOL]

Squeeze
05-05-2017, 17:25
Leave it to Ray. This is why we can't have nice things! [LOL]

Yeah, instead of Ray's title being "Orange Junk", it should be, "King Cranky Poo". If anyone could break the internet in their sleep, it would be Ray.

Rucker61
05-06-2017, 21:02
"A concealed carry permit holder, he told her to get down on the ground and then shot Jones in the back."

I really appreciate a man who understands the nebulous value of a fair fight. Nicely done, sir.

Gman
05-06-2017, 22:10
"A concealed carry permit holder, he told her to get down on the ground and then shot Jones in the back."

I really appreciate a man who understands the nebulous value of a fair fight. Nicely done, sir.
When taking down an aggressor, the safest vantage point is behind them. Excellent tactical decision on the CCW holder's part. I bet the miscreant hoped to catch the patrons of the sports bar at a disadvantage. Well, life ain't fair.

ColoWyo
05-06-2017, 22:33
"A concealed carry permit holder, he told her to get down on the ground and then shot Jones in the back."

I really appreciate a man who understands the nebulous value of a fair fight. Nicely done, sir.

So true. I read somewhere that if you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck. Might be a little cheesy, but it also happens to be true.

UncleDave
05-07-2017, 08:22
"A concealed carry permit holder, he told her to get down on the ground and then shot Jones in the back."

I really appreciate a man who understands the nebulous value of a fair fight. Nicely done, sir.


In the immortal words of Judge Roy Bean, "If he wanted a fair fight her should have gone somewhere else."

hatidua
05-08-2017, 20:25
....The serial number on the second gun had been scratched off, and Jones did not have a gun license, police said."

gun license?

Gman
05-08-2017, 22:56
Carry permit...like that would have had anything to do with his justification or the outcome.

68Charger
05-09-2017, 07:34
gun license?


Carry permit...like that would have had anything to do with his justification or the outcome.

When they added open carry, they changed the name from Concealed Handgun License to "License To Carry"... right on the top of mine it says "license to carry handgun"

As an aside, there are interesting contradictions in TX law... it's illegal to allow a minor to gain access to a firearm if it goes badly (accidental shooting, etc)... but if a minor uses a handgun to defend your home in what is otherwise a legal shoot, there will be no charges.

Also, because it was a bar- the good samaritan could be charged with a Felony for possessing a handgun there- licensed or not... any establishment that derives 51% of their income from alcohol sales is a barred from carry- and is a felony. (stupid law if you ask me, but I just got here recently)
ETA- some places refer to this as a Mexican restaurant- so I don't know if the 51% would apply or not- they would have a 51% sign out front if it did

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