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When should this be sent?
When the tax stamp is applied for?
When the stamp is received?
Anytime in between?
I sent a Form 1 & 4 last week to ATF, but still have the sheriff packet. Want to save the postage and deliver when I pass through CR in a few weeks.
Great-Kazoo
05-06-2017, 08:17
https://princelaw.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/060216_atf_letter-_to_cleos.pdf (https://princelaw.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/060216_atf_letter-_to_cleos.pdf)
Great-Kazoo
05-06-2017, 08:27
For some reason i'm unable to update my original reply.
I'm not sending notification till i receive approval for the items i have in line. My sheriff signs off on NFA paperwork for those who didn't have a trust, prior to 41F. So it was never an issue. By "Law" the CLEO has no say in your application. SO when you give them notification is up to you.
The Norseman
05-07-2017, 09:51
You do not have to notify the "local" CLEO, it can be the top state guy. I myself would rather send it here than let the local guy know what I'm doing.....
Here's a snip from an informational post over on ARFCOM
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_17/465636_Work-In-Progress--new-F1-F4-guide-for-41F-submissions.html
State Level CLEO Info
As mentioned earlier, there are state level employees who qualify as CLEO. It does not have to be a local Sheriff or Police Chief.
The following list is courtesy of Silencer Shop. This is who they’ll be using to meet the CLEO Notification requirement. Using the state level employee can keep you off the radar of your local PD/SD if that’s important to you. Also, the CLEOs below should be used to seeing the forms in the near future. I believe there are currently only 43 states listed, as 7 don’t allow suppressors. If your state allows other NFA items, but not Suppressors, feel free to send me the info and I’ll update the list.
Colorado
Colorado State Patrol a division of the Colorado Department of Public Safety
Colonel Scott G. Hernandez
700 Kipling Street
Lakewood, Colorado 80215
303-239-4500
OneGuy67
05-07-2017, 17:21
The CSP is not the state police as we do not have that type of agency in this state, so you are not following the stated regulation. Both the CSP and the CBI fall under the Department of Public Safety which is headed by Stan Hilkey, the former Mesa County Sheriff.
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I just tweet a picture of whatever I've built to the sheriff when I'm done.
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I sent mine to the DougCo Sheriff without pause as I was told by a few sources they go right through the shredder upon receipt.
Pretty sure I also mailed it to the office in HR, not the justice center.
By statute, the CLEO in Colorado IS the Sheriff in the County in which you reside. In other states, it is the top State Police Officer. There is no "local" about it. "Chief Law Enforcement Officer" has a specific meaning and trying to be cute is how folks end up in the slammer.
I sent my CLEO notification in to the JeffCo Sheriff at the same time I sent in my Form 4 with a check and the accompanying requirements.
That last thing you want is to be "cute," and in the slammer at the same time.
By statute, the CLEO in Colorado IS the Sheriff in the County in which you reside. In other states, it is the top State Police Officer. There is no "local" about it. "Chief Law Enforcement Officer" has a specific meaning and trying to be cute is how folks end up in the slammer.
I sent my CLEO notification in to the JeffCo Sheriff at the same time I sent in my Form 4 with a check and the accompanying requirements.
Good info, Mark do you by chance know the statute# or have any information on this that I could pull up and document for future use?
The Office of Sheriff is created by the Colorado Constitution, (art.XIV, sect 8). There is something elsewhere that gives the CLEO authority, but I have no idea where. Most of the Sheriff offices websites use the language, "Chief Law Enforcement Officer" to describe the elected Sheriff. There was some squabble several years ago about a DA claiming he was the CLEO, he got proven wrong.
Circuits
05-08-2017, 18:09
The Office of Sheriff is created by the Colorado Constitution, (art.XIV, sect 8). There is something elsewhere that gives the CLEO authority, but I have no idea where. Most of the Sheriff offices websites use the language, "Chief Law Enforcement Officer" to describe the elected Sheriff. There was some squabble several years ago about a DA claiming he was the CLEO, he got proven wrong.
For purposes of fulfilling the FEDERAL requirement of "notifying the CLEO", the sheriff is not the only acceptable candidate, as far as the ATF is concerned. What may be true for Colorado law does not bind the feds.
From the text of 41F:
An "appropriate State or local official" is the local chief of police, county sheriff, head of the State police, or State or local district attorney or prosecutor of the locality in which the applicant, transferee, or responsible person is located.
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