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Fentonite
05-08-2017, 17:55
Crazy hail storm today. We were driving with the dogs in the back of the truck, and managed to pull under a bridge just before it hit. Must have seen 20 cars get their windshields smashed out. When we got home, we had lost a sun-tunnel skylight over the kitchen, and one of the cars got beat up pretty bad. The new roof seems to have held up ok against the 2" hail.
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FIL's truck got messed up in lakewood. Greeley got hit pretty good luckily I was under a tree.
House in Frederick as usual in between storms and seems to have only gotten rain.
Dann. I had 3/4" stuff at my house but I don't think any damage. According to the radar it looks like another good dose around 8pm tonight.
I got pea-sized hail at Standley Lake.
ruthabagah
05-08-2017, 18:01
Was in a meeting room downtown denver with nice big windows facing west.... some of the californian attendees jumped under the table when the pounding started.... it was funny to say the least.
If you got 2" hail, I can come check it for you. I'll probably be working every single day for the next month though.
My jeep got worked over by that 2 inch hail broken windshield and all. I just put a new engine in it......i should have known something bad was going to happen lol
USMC88-93
05-08-2017, 18:44
My roof concerns from several months ago, are now a definate insurance submittal I suspect. Along with two cars that were in otherwise immaculate shape.
I will be submitting for roof, siding, and two cars probably unless submitting for the cars will jack up my rates for auto crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXrciT2j03s&feature=youtu.be
I was in boulder working and didn't get anything on the truck luckily
hollohas
05-08-2017, 18:52
The morrison, golden, green mountain, arvada area got hit HARD. Saw a half dozen cars with broken rear windows on the way home, many more with lots of body damage. We had some customers that the hail went right through the roof of their office. Many friends with 1-2" hail in that area.
Here's a pic of a car with broken window and a big 'ol pile of hail in the background near Kipling and Alameda. Zero hail south of Jewel on Kipling. It's crazy how hail storms can have such a defined border.
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hollohas
05-08-2017, 18:57
Was in a meeting room downtown denver with nice big windows facing west.... some of the californian attendees jumped under the table when the pounding started.... it was funny to say the least.
We have a new gal in our office from Texas. She was pretty concerned. We had a bunch of pea sized hail downtown. I told her that was nothing and something we see every spring, multiple times. Need more than pea sized hail to hurt the car. I've come to expect major hail storms this time of year...you could put money on it.
Snowman78
05-08-2017, 19:24
My roof concerns from several months ago, are now a definate insurance submittal I suspect. Along with two cars that were in otherwise immaculate shape.
I will be submitting for roof, siding, and two cars probably unless submitting for the cars will jack up my rates for auto crazy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXrciT2j03s&feature=youtu.be
Negative, comprehensive (comp) claims should not affect your rates
Texas has the worst hail in the US. Last year I was doing a claim up in Golden (the same neighborhood just got trashed again today) and the lady was fresh from Texas. She was going on and on about how bad the hail was. The adjuster and I were looking at her like she had two heads. I told her, "Texas get much worse hail than here, they just had one of the worst storms in history." She didn't believe me.
buffalobo
05-08-2017, 19:47
Read an article recently that said Texas had the most damage in dollars and South Dakota had the most claims per capita. Colorado was 3rd in both.
If you're unarmed, you are a victim
Just for clarity, my reference was the storm in Texas last year where hail was going through the roof, the decking, the insulation, the ceiling drywall, and then denting hardwood floors and cracking granite counter tops or tile floors. Once there was a hole in the roof, the entire house got water damage on top of what was probably already a $90,000 hail claim. I can see why the property damage was the highest.
I'm lucky to live where I live. Been here about eighteen years and haven't had hail at my place. My truck stays parked out in the driveway and I've never had a single ding from hail.
(Hopefully I didn't just jinx myself by mentioning the lack of hail in my area.)
My truck somehow went unscathed, which is unfortunate because a total would probably be the best thing to happen to that thing.
hollohas
05-08-2017, 20:19
Texas has the worst hail in the US. Last year I was doing a claim up in Golden (the same neighborhood just got trashed again today) and the lady was fresh from Texas. She was going on and on about how bad the hail was. The adjuster and I were looking at her like she had two heads. I told her, "Texas get much worse hail than here, they just had one of the worst storms in history." She didn't believe me.
It's more spread out there. They have bigger storms, but they may not hit the same area two years in a row. These sorts of storms seem to hit the metro area somewhere each year.
kidicarus13
05-08-2017, 20:34
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hollohas
05-08-2017, 20:40
Hail went through the roof of Colorado Mills mall too. Major interior flooding as a result I guess.
My Trusty 99 Toyota got trashed. If I call the adjuster, this will be my 3rd comprehensive in 2 years. I don't know I should file a claim or not. Car is probably worth less than $1500.
gnihcraes
05-08-2017, 21:15
Yep, 5 damaged cars on my lot. Roof unknown yet. Neighbors lost a ton of vinyl siding.
Will call state farm tomorrow and get on the list.
Body shops were scheduled 3 months out before the storm.
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Firehaus
05-08-2017, 21:58
Anyone know what was the largest hail around 6th and Wads in lakewood? Is it being reported yet on the hail sites?
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colorider
05-08-2017, 22:21
6th and Wads could have been anywhere from marble to tennis ball. I was heading north on wads as it was happening. at 6th it was mixed. When I got to 32nd, it was golf ball to tennis ball and my work van took a beating. As I rolled north it was heavier volume, but more pea and marble sized.
USMC88-93
05-08-2017, 22:44
So what method do the insurance companies utilize to verify if your home was in the path of a hail storm other than everyone and their mother calling in a claim..
Do they utilize the weather radar data to validate a claim?
Snowman78
05-08-2017, 22:45
Yes, we do
Yep, 5 damaged cars on my lot. Roof unknown yet. Neighbors lost a ton of vinyl siding.
Will call state farm tomorrow and get on the list.
Body shops were scheduled 3 months out before the storm.
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How's the solar?
Yes, they use that data, but if you file a claim, they'll come look regardless of if you were or not. There are no pre-qualifications to file a claim.
How's the solar?
For what it's worth, I've yet to see a damaged solar panel. I know it happens, but I've yet to see it. I've seen exactly one dented satellite dish, and plenty of damaged skylights. Solar panels are very tough for being large panes of glass.
USMC88-93
05-08-2017, 23:03
Yes, they use that data, but if you file a claim, they'll come look regardless of if you were or not. There are no pre-qualifications to file a claim.
I had not found the time to get you out to look at my roof from my questions a number of months ago Irving, looks like this storm makes a third part inspection moot however. If this storm doesn't deserve a claim than nothing would.
Upon inspection will they need to look internally as well (peek in the attic for leaks, verify if the repair will need new plywood sheeting or not based on code, etc)... or will the inspection likely be 100% external?
On a secondary tangent could the same adjuster for my company also do the vehicles or are homeowners and auto going to be two completely different paths.
slightly larger than golf-ball in far Northeast side of Wheat Ridge
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Auto and home owners are different policies. There aren't many multi-line adjusters left anymore so it will probably be two separate people. However, if both are covered by the same company, it's worth checking to see if your policy will combine deductibles. It's not common, but some companies will drop the smaller deductible if the same event damaged both home and cars.
An adjuster would like to snap a picture of the decking during their inspection if they can, but it's not a deal breaker if you can't be at home. Do you have wood shake shingles on the roof at all?
Hail as large as you are showing you are probably pretty safe to turn in a claim, especially if your roof was older.
USMC88-93
05-08-2017, 23:37
Do you have wood shake shingles on the roof at all? Hail as large as you are showing you are probably pretty safe to turn in a claim, especially if your roof was older.
No, I believe I have sheet plywood over the original spaced decking and only one layer of shingles. One neighbor however has a couple of layers of asphalt over his original wood shingles. I am sure that will add to his rear off prices.
chuckchili
05-08-2017, 23:37
My truck, a brand new Dodge, was parked in Wheat Ridge. I got hood, roof and bed dents but glass survived. Everyone parked around me got the dents plus broken windows. I guess I got off easy sorta.
I was out at BLGC today, didn't even rain there. Sure looked nasty everywhere else though. Don't think it was bad here in Parker, but I wasn't here. Didn't see any damages when I got home.
Man, if my truck got all fucked up I'd be pissssed.....
I'll take some pictures when I get home from work. I have a flat old rubber roof. It looks like asteroids pelted the moon. I need to trough some tarps up there before the next round of rain. Hope the landlord has insurance.
jerrymrc
05-09-2017, 08:58
After a few of the storms and after 4 months of crap with USAA I was in line to have the vinyl siding replaced. After some negotiation I had all the siding tore off and smart siding put up. They are almost done with it. The chance of hail and wind damage down the road got me to upgrade.
gnihcraes
05-09-2017, 09:56
How's the solar?
solar appears to have survived. Filed all my claims with insurance. We'll see what happens. Camper took the worst of it and I'm not even sure I have it insured for that kinda of damage. Doesn't appear that the camper roof will leak, no tears, sure looks bad though.
Irving, thank you for all the valuable info you provide on insurance and stuff.
I try to answer what I can based on my experience. I certainly don't know everything though, so please make sure you are checking directly with your agent or claims adjuster. Every company does things differently.
cfortune
05-09-2017, 11:36
My car got pretty f'd while at my job in Lakewood
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Anyone know how to make a map that we can all add to so we can see areas of known damage? I know SA Friday was doing something like that years ago with local places to shoot.
there is a map already. Found this yesterday..
http://www.stormersite.com/hailmap/2017/May/8 (http://www.stormersite.com/hailmap/2017/May/8)
SideShow Bob
05-09-2017, 12:21
Anyone know how to make a map that we can all add to so we can see areas of known damage? I know SA Friday was doing something like that years ago with local places to shoot.
You going knocking on doors to offer discounted roof inspections ?
Great-Kazoo
05-09-2017, 12:53
You going knocking on doors to offer discounted roof inspections ?
Hi. I'm from Gypsy Stu's roofing.
hollohas
05-09-2017, 13:21
Car dealerships in Lakewood/Golden area got messed up.
Prestige Audi had something around 250-300 cars damaged or destroyed including at least one R8.
Stevenson Lexas and Toyota had something like 600 damaged I heard.
Chrysler Jeep West got hit hard too. Not sure how many but my buddy who works there had his personal jeep trashed. Sunroof, windshield, body, all smashed.
Insurance will help them with the loss of cars, but what about lost sales? If an entire lot is destroyed, that means they have no cars to sell. No cars to sell is a huge loss not only for the revenue but the sales staff as well. Sucks.
Car dealerships in Lakewood/Golden area got messed up.
Prestige Audi had something around 250-300 cars damaged or destroyed including at least one R8.
Stevenson Lexas and Toyota had something like 600 damaged I heard.
Chrysler Jeep West got hit hard too. Not sure how many but my buddy who works there had his personal jeep trashed. Sunroof, windshield, body, all smashed.
Insurance will help them with the loss of cars, but what about lost sales? If an entire lot is destroyed, that means they have no cars to sell. No cars to sell is a huge loss not only for the revenue but the sales staff as well. Sucks.
Don't they just have a "hail sale" and sell all the cars insurance has already paid them for as a total loss, anyway?
there is a map already. Found this yesterday..
http://www.stormersite.com/hailmap/2017/May/8 (http://www.stormersite.com/hailmap/2017/May/8)
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
USMC88-93
05-09-2017, 14:15
Insurance will help them with the loss of cars, but what about lost sales? If an entire lot is destroyed, that means they have no cars to sell. No cars to sell is a huge loss not only for the revenue but the sales staff as well. Sucks.
Hail sale......Likely the RV sales lots along I-70 took a similar hit.
Hail sale......Likely the RV sales lots along I-70 took a similar hit.
Now that may be a worthwhile sale to go to..
hollohas
05-09-2017, 15:04
Hail sale......Likely the RV sales lots along I-70 took a similar hit.
I bought a hail damaged travel trailer last year at Camping World. Got a decent deal for a trailer with minor damage.
We had 2 inch hail at the shop here in Golden. Broke the windshield in in pickup (needed one anyway), blew a 4 inch hole in the dual layer skylight in the shop Beat up my bike and some damage to a couple of customer bikes, broke one window on the motorhome, trashed the roof vent and refrigerator vent cover on the motorhome. Maybe now the landlord will fix the damn roof (leaked for the past 15 years).
3beansalad
05-09-2017, 15:14
Hail sale......Likely the RV sales lots along I-70 took a similar hit.
Someone in a FB group I'm in was supposed to pick up their new RV from Windish tomorrow... both their trade and their new one got pummeled. I just got mine back from the damage last July, hope we don't get a similar storm down here in the Springs. Can't imagine fixing everything again.
USMC88-93
05-09-2017, 15:20
Roof caved in over the Meat & deli department at the King Soopers on 38th and Sheridan.
gnihcraes
05-09-2017, 15:29
Walmart at Colfax/Wadsworth was closed yesterday too - skylight problems I believe.
Wow. We only had gravel-sized hail, but it was coming down so hard on the skylight that I couldn't hear the customer service person on the other end of the phone.
It knocked lots of leaves down, but I had listened to the weather liars and moved my strawberries up on the porch, so didn't lose any plants.
there is a map already. Found this yesterday..
http://www.stormersite.com/hailmap/2017/May/8 (http://www.stormersite.com/hailmap/2017/May/8)
Great, thanks. I have an app that is similar.
USMC88-93
05-09-2017, 18:31
Sent you a private message Irving.....
Fentonite
05-09-2017, 19:36
Well, crap. The new roof didn't hold up as well as I thought - I just didn't know what to look for. It's trashed. I get to pay my deductible twice within 6 months.
USMC88-93
05-09-2017, 20:11
Well, crap. The new roof didn't hold up as well as I thought - I just didn't know what to look for. It's trashed. I get to pay my deductible twice within 6 months.
Neighbor down the street had a new roof put on last summer, same exact company will be replacing it again this year..
DenverGP
05-09-2017, 20:29
Well, crap. The new roof didn't hold up as well as I thought - I just didn't know what to look for. It's trashed. I get to pay my deductible twice within 6 months.
What kind of roof was it? Just got mine down last year, with impact resistant shingles, hoping it'll survive our hail a little better.
GilpinGuy
05-09-2017, 20:41
I drove through some pea sized hail up here today and though about you flatlanders getting pounded again. Looks like it a bad one again. It's been nasty this spring.
gnihcraes
05-09-2017, 21:18
Checked my roofs, need new. Found one hole completely through, it hit just right and punched through, ping pong ball size.
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What kind of roof was it? Just got mine down last year, with impact resistant shingles, hoping it'll survive our hail a little better.
The size hail that Fentonite and USMC88-93 got it probably won't matter, but smaller stuff it will hold up better.
Fentonite
05-09-2017, 22:36
What kind of roof was it? Just got mine down last year, with impact resistant shingles, hoping it'll survive our hail a little better.
The size hail that Fentonite and USMC88-93 got it probably won't matter, but smaller stuff it will hold up better.
It was not an impact-resistant shingle, but like Irving said, probably wouldn't matter with the size of hail that attacked us.
Checked my roofs, need new. Found one hole completely through, it hit just right and punched through, ping pong ball size.
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My cousin lives just North of Colfax from you and sent me some pictures today asking if he'd get a new roof (YES!). One of the photos has a hole right through the shingle. I told him that concerned me as that means there was probably a hole in the decking in order for that to happen. It's not uncommon for contractors to shingle right over old vent holes, or if there is spaced decking, for a hail chunk to slip right through.
Walmart at Colfax/Wadsworth was closed yesterday too - skylight problems I believe.
I went in there yesterday and yes all their skylights are trashed.
English kanigit
05-10-2017, 05:51
I'd just pulled up onto a jobsite at I-70 and Colfax when the rain turned to sleet. Or so I thought. Five minutes later it looked like this.
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I actually had to dig out some earplugs while waiting in the truck because it was so friggin' loud.
Ek
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gnihcraes
05-10-2017, 08:00
My cousin lives just North of Colfax from you and sent me some pictures today asking if he'd get a new roof (YES!). One of the photos has a hole right through the shingle. I told him that concerned me as that means there was probably a hole in the decking in order for that to happen. It's not uncommon for contractors to shingle right over old vent holes, or if there is spaced decking, for a hail chunk to slip right through.
Correct, this old house doesn't have skip gap (?) decking, but many of the boards have tree knots and they have fallen out over the last 80 years. The hail hit right on the edge of two boards and right where a knot appears to have been. I can't get in that area underneath easily to look, but I'll go with that since I know this house pretty well.
May other areas where it punched through to the tar paper. I have the heavy shingles too, the double layer architectural look.
hunterhawk
05-10-2017, 08:16
Dang, you guys have me feeling lucky! What a pain in the arse
Firehaus
05-10-2017, 12:15
I forgot to take a photo of my roof inspection, but 50+ hits in the test square of 1"+ hail. Gutters, stairs and fence beat up too.
10th and Wads area.
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Not that it needs said, but all the CAT adjusters have apparently arrived in town now. I had three appointments today. I've got seven tomorrow. We're looking at having as many as 10 guys here running possibly 10 a day until everything calms down. Then after this is over, there will still be people that never turned in claims and I'll be seeing damage from this storm for the next two years I bet. This is a much larger area than the Highlands Ranch storm last year and I was there every day for a month. Unfortunately I didn't get a piece of the Colorado Springs storm last year, so I don't know how wide of an area that one covered.
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