More Government School Indoctrination

[GilpinGuy]

As usual, I asked my 12 yo stepson (6th grade) how school was today, what did you learn, etc. when I picked him up from the bus stop.

He told me about a story that they read in class together. Once again, not a story that came home with the kids to read at home - just read together in class. The trend is obvious to me. (so the parents won't know)

The story was about a Mexican family. The older sister emigrated to the US, legally, and lived in LA, CA. The younger brother stayed in Mexico to take care of their elderly father. A few years later the father passed away. Then the brother takes a "scary, dangerous journey" to go to live with his sister in LA. My son starts to describe this journey like it's a cool adventure story.

I stop my him and ask, "Why was it scary and dangerous?" He says that the brother had to pay dangerous people to take him to his sister in LA and that it was a scary trip through the desert, blah blah blah. My eyeballs almost popped out of my skull. Luckily my son was in the back seat of the truck and didn't see my face.

So I calmly ask, "Did he sneak into the country?"
Son: Yes...
Me: Did your teacher say that it was wrong to do that?
Son: No. She said that he wanted to be with his sister.
Me: OK, but you know that you can't just sneak into this country right? You have to follow the law?
Son: Yeah, I know that.
Me: So what he did was wrong?
Son: I guess so....
Me: Yes, it was wrong. His sister did it the right way. She followed the law. Why didn't he?
Son: I don't know. We didn't talk about that. It was mostly about how scary it was for him.
Me, holding back my pissed-offed-ness: OK, so how did the story end?
Son: They both met at her house and were happy.

Then I went into the story about how my son's mother escaped Communism, came here LEGALLY from Laos in the early 70's, and how he is lucky to be a first generation American citizen. Plus how his mother went through the LEGAL process to become a real American herself and not take the easy shortcut by sneaking in and faking it. A story he heard many times and is probably tired of hearing. I did my best to un-indoctrinate him, yet again. Understand that I didn't berate my son about the story. I calmly asked questions and we discussed it. It's not his fault they shove this garbage down his throat. It's my job to reach in and take it back out.

I know I'm beating a dead horse a bit over the last few months about the government schools, but give me a break. Teaching kids that it's OK to sneak into this country illegally? Or at least condoning it? Holy shit! I wonder if there is ANY other country on Earth that teaches their children this shit.

Maybe the edu-crats have determined that the 6th grade is when it is time to seriously indoctrinate, got me, but this year has been frustrating to say the least.

We are working on getting to a point financially that we can home school, private school, whatever, but goddamn this shit pisses me off. We have a year and a half before my little girl starts school, so we need to get our shit together fast.

[Irving]

Have you investigated if this material is coming from the school, or from the teacher? Teacher likely has discretion on what books to read.
This is the same teacher as the last crap right?

[Squeeze]

That would piss me off to the 10th degree. I'm pretty sure the school would not like what I had to say. They are taking all the "bad" things out of our history books and now teaching it's "okay" to illegally come to America. I know teachers and schools fall largely into the "Liberal" category but that is straight up bullshit.

[cstone]

There is normally a district approved list of books and the teachers select books from that list.

If you have the time, make an appointment with the teacher. Ask for a list of books they are using and what are the topics they are trying to cover and how those books work to cover those topics. Its best to get this information at the beginning of the year so that you can read the books prior to your kids reading them. When you find books that you have a problem with, contact the teacher and arrange for an alternative assignment. If you have a problem with a specific topic or you don't trust the information you are being given, contact the principal and schedule some time to sit in the class. This will have a negative impact on your kid's relationship with the teacher, but you will develop a reputation with the teachers and the administration of the school. They will handle you with the utmost of care. Ask me how I know. I'm sure I'm not the only parent who has done this. I'm extremely happy that my youngest has finished high school and graduates next week. Government schools are first and foremost government institutions. Treat them accordingly.

[JohnnyEgo]

That sounds very much like the plot of 'El Norte', a 1983 movie about a brother and sister who leave Guatemala and sneak across the border illegally. We had to watch it when I was in 7th grade, a few decades ago. My memory of it is a little hazy, but I think the girl got raped and/or impregnated, and the boy got sick and died. What my 7th grade mind got out of it was 'wow, it is a really bad idea to cross the border illegally'.

I went to an elite public school for kids of politicians, lobbyists, and government employees who were not connected enough to get their kids into Sidwell or couldn't take the optics. Teachers were given wide discretion, which resulted in things like being shown the Roman Polanski version of 'Macbeth' in 10th grade English, complete with naked witch orgy scene.

[Bailey Guns]

Exactly what others have said. It's a great venting tool to rant here (and I'd probably do the same thing) but will do nothing to resolve the issue of what your son is learning in the indoctrination center. Talk to the indoctrinator and principal. Tell them you don't appreciate the fact they're teaching children it's acceptable to break the law or condone it when done by others.

[CS1983]

This sort of stuff isn't new, necessarily.

In 1995 I was in 6th grade. I took Spanish class. We watched a movie about a Mexican family and the little girl was going to have her Quinceañera. For fun, she and her friends would go to the park where a lot of Hispanics would hang out. Then they'd shout "La migra!" and run. And everyone would freak out and run away. They thought this was hilarious until she found out her parents came here via Coyotaje.

It sought to normalize the process of illegal immigration and how they're basically just Americans you have to feed and water properly, and give enough sunlight and poof! a new crop of Americans -- hand picked and brought to a town near you. However, I grew up in a farm town with a ton of migrant workers. I'd seen how "glamorous" their life was. How they'd work very hard for hardly anything (or at least, what they kept after sending it home to Mexico and getting kitsch upgrades for their trucks). The squalor they brought with them... one can take the person out of trashy Mexico... doesn't mean they'll take the trashy Mexico out of the person.

They'd take over our local basketball court and BMX track (that our older brothers had built with their own effort and money after getting approval from the Community Center to build on the adjacent land). Went from being a place the entire town's kids could hang out and play to being like something out of a Tijuana documentary. Trash.Everywhere.You.Can.See. Diapers... empty bottles... etc. Trash.

I also worked with illegals when I washed dishes in high school. Not just from Mexico, either. One and his wife were from Argentina. Hardest working folks I knew. Not sure if they lived like trash though (but that's not patented by hispanics...)

Public school has been a vector for liberal indoctrination for decades. Nothing new, unfortunately. This is why we will be homeschooling, no matter the personal cost.

[Jonsey]

I am glad there is another parent out there who is outraged about this. I have been angry about this leftist indoctrination since I was in school in the 90's. This is surely a whole new level of it and much worse. As I am usually just relieved not to have to deal with it, I have been totally shocked hearing about your experience. It is much worse than I thought it was and helps me not to give up teaching my own kids. Just two years left with my oldest. Good luck to you with your plans. It has been a financial challenge for us too but very much worth it.

[ray1970]

My kids knew from a very young age that their mom and I were way smarter than any teacher they were ever going to have. While they learned math and science from their teachers, their system of values and beliefs was instilled at home.

I only remember having to have a little heart to heart conversation/ass chewing with one of my kids teachers and that was actually about math assignment that I thought was garbage so I told my son not to do it and then I told the teacher how stupid and asinine her assignment was and that I had instructed my son to not waste his time by doing that assignment and that if I found out she counted it against him for not doing it then heads were going to roll.

[sigmanx]

I completely understand. The bs that's being shoved down the kids throats these days is why we have these liberal crybabies throwing temper tantrums at Berkeley and such.

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[Dave_L]

Rules only apply to conservatives.

[Zundfolge]

I wonder if there is ANY other country on Earth that teaches their children this shit.

Sweden, Germany, France, the UK ... yeah, there are quislings at every level of power in Western Civilization working overtime to hand us over to the third world to be raped, robbed and murdered.

[Scanker19]

This sort of stuff isn't new, necessarily.

In 1995 I was in 6th grade. I took Spanish class. We watched a movie about a Mexican family and the little girl was going to have her Quinceañera. For fun, she and her friends would go to the park where a lot of Hispanics would hang out. Then they'd shout "La migra!" and run. And everyone would freak out and run away. They thought this was hilarious until she found out her parents came here via Coyotaje.

It sought to normalize the process of illegal immigration and how they're basically just Americans you have to feed and water properly, and give enough sunlight and poof! a new crop of Americans -- hand picked and brought to a town near you. However, I grew up in a farm town with a ton of migrant workers. I'd seen how "glamorous" their life was. How they'd work very hard for hardly anything (or at least, what they kept after sending it home to Mexico and getting kitsch upgrades for their trucks). The squalor they brought with them... one can take the person out of trashy Mexico... doesn't mean they'll take the trashy Mexico out of the person.

They'd take over our local basketball court and BMX track (that our older brothers had built with their own effort and money after getting approval from the Community Center to build on the adjacent land). Went from being a place the entire town's kids could hang out and play to being like something out of a Tijuana documentary. Trash.Everywhere.You.Can.See. Diapers... empty bottles... etc. Trash.

I also worked with illegals when I washed dishes in high school. Not just from Mexico, either. One and his wife were from Argentina. Hardest working folks I knew. Not sure if they lived like trash though (but that's not patented by hispanics...)

Public school has been a vector for liberal indoctrination for decades. Nothing new, unfortunately. This is why we will be homeschooling, no matter the personal cost.

I seen something like in school too! Pretty sure it was back in '96. Of course we stared shouting La Migra at one another for weeks.

[Scanker19]

https://youtu.be/jEi5PAFkiNI

[Aloha_Shooter]

Saw a somewhat-related story on Fox News: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/12/north-carolina-school-district-recalls-yearbooks-over-trump-quote.html

I would expect this kind of garbage in Commiepornia but in Colorado and North Carolina? We need to drain the swamp in the education indoctrination system.

[BushMasterBoy]

At least the teacher ain't bangin' one of the kids, then shooting herself in front of the cops. They should just film all the class rooms and keep copy for the parents to review. I know, bit of a derailment and big brotherish. But what else could you do to bring in accountability?

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/teacher-kills-herself-amid-student-sex-probe-family-says/

[GilpinGuy]

Sorry for not getting back to this sooner. We had a complete power failure (lights out, dark) at the casino and it's been the crazyiest day of my life in the biz. Imagine hundreds of gamblers that can't get their money. Fun stuff. Anyway...


Have you investigated if this material is coming from the school, or from the teacher? Teacher likely has discretion on what books to read.
This is the same teacher as the last crap right?

I didn't ask if it was the same teacher. I will this weekend. And I don't know if it's coming from the teacher he/her/shim self


There is normally a district approved list of books and the teachers select books from that list.

If you have the time, make an appointment with the teacher. Ask for a list of books they are using and what are the topics they are trying to cover and how those books work to cover those topics. Its best to get this information at the beginning of the year so that you can read the books prior to your kids reading them. When you find books that you have a problem with, contact the teacher and arrange for an alternative assignment. If you have a problem with a specific topic or you don't trust the information you are being given, contact the principal and schedule some time to sit in the class. This will have a negative impact on your kid's relationship with the teacher, but you will develop a reputation with the teachers and the administration of the school. They will handle you with the utmost of care. Ask me how I know. I'm sure I'm not the only parent who has done this. I'm extremely happy that my youngest has finished high school and graduates next week. Government schools are first and foremost government institutions. Treat them accordingly.

This is an excellent idea and will be done next year.


Exactly what others have said. It's a great venting tool to rant here (and I'd probably do the same thing) but will do nothing to resolve the issue of what your son is learning in the indoctrination center. Talk to the indoctrinator and principal. Tell them you don't appreciate the fact they're teaching children it's acceptable to break the law or condone it when done by others.

I'm with you here. We had a rather harsh bullying incident happen a month or so ago and I was in there like a tornado that afternoon. It wasn't fun or pretty but I made it clear that this shit will stop NOW. And this wasn't simple push and shove or calling names bullying crap that we all grew up with. Another story for another time.

With 2 weeks left in the school year, I'm not going to start any shit about this bs story. Next year, I'm doing what cstone suggested in the very beginning and cut it off at the pass.

[CS1983]

This is why they get away with it:

http://i.imgur.com/nM01Uoo.jpg

[CapLock]

Sure is scary when your a criminal and always having to look over your shoulder. No way to live. I think you you got the right point across

[cstone]

A bit off topic but an interesting read for those who have children in government institutions: https://www.edreform.com/2013/02/whats-wrong-with-common-core-ela-standards/

My simplistic take on this is that teachers are focusing more of their time on reading non-fiction and taking less time putting anything read into context. Imagine reading the Gettysburg Address but not being told about the Civil War, Abraham Lincoln, slavery, secession, the battle just fought around Gettysburg, or anything else leading up to or resulting from the conflict. Just something to read so that the children can answer questions on one of the standardized tests.

Much of what passes for education today should be considered malpractice.

[sellersm]

Just want to say "congrats" on getting/being involved! So much passivity on the part of parents today helps this kind of crap succeed. All of us parents need to be vigilante. Always.

[Gman]

All of us parents need to be vigilante.
I think you meant "vigilant"...but maybe not.[Coffee]

[sellersm]

I think you meant "vigilant"...but maybe not.[Coffee]

Ummm, yeah, I did, but now that you mention it...