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Great-Kazoo
07-21-2017, 08:03
My front door is 6 hrs, based on googlemaps and garmin. It took 1/3 of that time frame to get from 70/76 turn off to our house. 2 fukin hours of sitting in bullsheet traffic.
My longest wait time anywhere in UT and Az was 10 min. That was for a train. Traffic through Moab, not bad for the tourist area it is.
AZ, all we did was hear how bad traffic is. The main drag in to prescott (or PresKitt) as the locals call it. With lights from the vrbo we stayed at to down preskitt, 10 min That was during morning "rush hour" . 16 miles @ 8:10 .

CO has many amazing positives about it. Mostly the friends we've made over 30+ years. The down side is as we've discussed on the forum many times is....pick one.

Downtown preskitt, i was approached 1x. That was by a "traveler" asking if i had a light. Yo Bro you got alight? No i don't. Interesting thing about that contact. He asked from 10' distance. When told no. He said thanks, and kept walking.

Looking back, we saw more TRUMP IS KILLING KIDS, SAVE MEDICAID protesters (10) then we did transients . The local PD said they STRONGLY Discourage any transients from loitering in the area.

Next stop Idaho.

ChunkyMonkey
07-21-2017, 11:56
House listed for real now? :)

Great-Kazoo
07-21-2017, 13:36
House listed for real now? :)


This close > < We'd prefer to do a person-person sale, save everyone some $$$

After trying to navigate hwy 34 this a.m. I made an offer on a place , the seller dropped their asking price by $20K before my offer. The seller has a place in tejas, they already closed on.
Have to be in denver next saturday. We might keep going south after our dinner.

Mazin
07-21-2017, 14:00
Be safe Don Kazoo, those liberal protesters are worse than transients

lex137
07-21-2017, 16:12
I really liked Iowa when I was there. Would move there if it wasn't for my daughter!

ray1970
07-21-2017, 17:46
I can't sympathize with the first part of your post, Kazoo.

Durango to my house was about six hours and fifteen minutes according to Google maps. Pretty sure we were on schedule until we hit the metro area about four o'clock. Took probably almost an hour and a half to get from 285 and C470 up to Thornton.

Traffic in Arizona, Utah, and New Mexico was a breeze. I could get completely across Flagstaff in "rush hour" in about fifteen minutes. Sedona was pretty much the same.

waffles
07-21-2017, 19:06
Moab is great, and I like Utah though couldn't deal with the weird religious laws (warm beer at the state liquor store in Springdale was just an offence to decency). When I was single I'd head to flagstaff fairly often to hang out with a girl I knew there. Great beer, great town, and I could certainly see living there if the job market was better.

e:Zion may be the prettiest place on the planet. I just cannot get enough of that park.

cstone
07-21-2017, 19:28
Just drove back from Salt Lake yesterday. It took 30 minutes during morning rush hour to get from West Valley (just south of the airport SLC) to Park City. I wasn't in any hurry so I took US 40 through Vernal and Craig but went south on 131 right after Hayden. A little bit of the usual fussiness with trucks and tourists on the hill climb from Silverthorne to the Eisenhower and it was pouring a wall of water as I exited the east side of the tunnel but maintained the posted or better until I got to Golden about 4:30 PM. No chance I was going from I-76 all the way to I-25, so I took Sheridan north instead.

I-25 has become a no go zone just about all the time. Fortunately, I can see the highway as I exit my neighborhood so I know whether it is worth the attempt or not when I can see the line of semi's basically parked or creeping along. Lots of north/south alternatives to I-25 and I use them all just to avoid sitting in the creep. At least there aren't any bridges or tunnels that bottle neck the city. Been there, done that.

Of course there isn't any traffic on I-80 crossing the Bonneville Salt Flats or any of the the other desolate, uninhabited spaces between cities in most western states. We visit these places, but few of us could actually live there. I like having a Dunkin Donuts, Smashburger, and Costco within 10 minutes of my house.

AZ wouldn't be too bad in the dead of winter, but I'm not ready to turn every piece of metal I come into contact with as an experiment in body mutilation. WY would be nice except for the almost constant 30 to 40 mile per hour breeze and the arctic winter. Besides that, I'm pretty sure my wife wouldn't come visit me if I moved to WY and she sure as heck isn't going to move there.

Colorado it is, as long as the kids and grandkids live here. Did anyone see that Norwegian Air is going to be flying from DEN to Paris, $199 one way! I can live just about anywhere as long as I can travel. Everything gets boring sooner or later.

Be safe.

Bailey Guns
07-21-2017, 19:34
I made an offer on a place

Where?

Great-Kazoo
07-21-2017, 21:16
I like having a Dunkin Donuts, Smashburger, and Costco within 10 minutes of my house.

AZ wouldn't be too bad in the dead of winter, but I'm not ready to turn every piece of metal I come into contact with as an experiment in body mutilation. WY would be nice except for the almost constant 30 to 40 mile per hour breeze and the arctic winter. Besides that, I'm pretty sure my wife wouldn't come visit me if I moved to WY and she sure as heck isn't going to move there.

Colorado it is, as long as the kids and grandkids live here. Did anyone see that Norwegian Air is going to be flying from DEN to Paris, $199 one way! I can live just about anywhere as long as I can travel. Everything gets boring sooner or later.

Be safe.

5 donut shops in the preskitt, PV (prescott valley) area. FWIW: if the DD in your area is as shoddy when it comes to the people behind the counter, as the one here, you can keep it.

Costco, in PV . Smashburger, they have 5 guys and for you CA heathens that shitty excuse for burgers, In n Out. We became fans of Left T's in Dewey.
Mexican food. Stay away from Arturo's , didn't get a chance to sample any place else.


Weather wise. 5,000' average altitude. Being monsoon season a month later than CO it rained 10-20min late afternoon. Other than that same temps as CO. Winter is (as we were told by recent transplants) snows 1 day, gone the next. AS always adverse weather depends on actual location.

Airport, Sky Harbor 90 mi. That's 1.5 hrs. 15 min more than my drive now.

Still not sure if the area is the place to move, for now.

ray1970
07-21-2017, 21:18
AZ wouldn't be too bad in the dead of winter, but I'm not ready to turn every piece of metal I come into contact with as an experiment in body mutilation.

The average high temperature in July in Flagstaff is 82 degrees. I'm not sure it reached that temperature the whole time I was there.

Great-Kazoo
07-21-2017, 21:20
Where?

Northern Prescott, Chino Valley. It has potential, IF they come down another $25k. I doubt they will, but they are anxious sellers with another home in some hell hole of Tx. It's one of their investment property's so who knows.

There are some better buys,for the money, in the Magic Valley and Boise area of Id.

hurley842002
07-21-2017, 21:38
Northern Prescott, Chino Valley. It has potential, IF they come down another $25k. I doubt they will, but they are anxious sellers with another home in some hell hole of Tx. It's one of their investment property's so who knows.

There are some better buys,for the money, in the Magic Valley and Boise area of Id.

Perhaps I'll live nearly the exact distance south of you in AZ that I live from you here in CO lol.

Gman
07-21-2017, 22:21
Last one out, turn out the lights.

Bailey Guns
07-22-2017, 06:18
Northern Prescott, Chino Valley. It has potential, IF they come down another $25k. I doubt they will, but they are anxious sellers with another home in some hell hole of Tx. It's one of their investment property's so who knows.

There are some better buys,for the money, in the Magic Valley and Boise area of Id.

Definitely beautiful in that area. My oldest lives near there.

OtterbatHellcat
07-22-2017, 10:49
Northern Prescott, Chino Valley. It has potential, IF they come down another $25k. I doubt they will, but they are anxious sellers with another home in some hell hole of Tx. It's one of their investment property's so who knows.

There are some better buys,for the money, in the Magic Valley and Boise area of Id.

You know you'd dig it there, AND you'd have me as a near by neighbor ....:) Well, soon anyways. I have a loose job interview down there next month.

hurley842002
07-22-2017, 10:54
You know you'd dig it there, AND you'd have me as a near by neighbor ....:) Well, soon anyways. I have a loose job interview down there next month.
Half the forum could end up down there lol. I likely won't make the move for another couple years, as I'm hoping for one promotion before I transfer.

OtterbatHellcat
07-22-2017, 10:59
Soon changing the site to ar-15.co.expats

Yeah, but the valley will get familiar with this sites logo for sure...lol

OtterbatHellcat
07-22-2017, 11:01
I hope you get the promo, Hurley.

Hell we can start our own COAR Cult then.

JohnTRourke
07-23-2017, 21:47
The problem in a nutshell. (i've lived here almost my whole life)

except for Trex (I-25 from Broadway to E470 south for you newbies) which was now 20 years ago!!!! and the 3 lanes on I-25 north of E470/NW pkway), it's the same exact number of lanes on the highway since i"ve been driving (mid 80's).

Population has tripled in that time.

Guess what, fucking gridlock.
And yeah, i'm on my way out too.