AK Smiths in Denver area

[ANADRILL]

I am looking to have a scope rail added to the side of my Arsenal and maybe a Tula side folder(later on), is there anyone in the Denver area that can trusted to do this work?

Thanks,
R

[ANADRILL]

damn no one in the area can do it?

[OneGuy67]

There was...damn guvment involvement!

[def90]

Send it out to a trusted AK smith.. JBI Armory, Arizona Response Systems (though I believe he is only taking on build work and not custom stuff at the moment), Jemak Firearms, a ton of others I cant think of at the moment but can be found over at AKFiles.com

The scope mount is easy, the cuts for the side folder are much more involved.

I think Hickman Rifles in the Springs used to do AK builds.. they might be worth checking out.

There used to be a guy in Rollinsville/Ned area that did Ak builds but I believe he moved to Tennessee recently. I think he was called Iron Curtain Designs or something, his website ironcurtain.us looks to be down.. Two River Arms is another..

[skoodge]

If you're willing to mail out and wait, I second Two Rivers Arms in OK. They did the sbr on my slr104ur and slr107ur. Great work, great guys; only thing is the 2-3 month lead time. AK's are their specialty though.

[ANADRILL]

Thanks guys

[BPTactical]

A task easily done.
Unfortunately it falls into the criteria of:
Use of any special tooling or equipment upgrading in order to improve the capability
of assembled or repaired firearms;

And as a result falls under I.T.A.R. fuckery.

[ANADRILL]

So just adding the scope mount falls under this?

[BPTactical]

So just adding the scope mount falls under this?

Yessir. Machining is required and "specialized tooling" (rivet setting tools) would have to be used.
Plus you are "Upgrading the capability" of the firearm.
That's the thing that really sucks about this ITAR "Guidance" letter. It is so ambiguous and broad-based that technically if you lay file to a firearm and remove any material, you meet the criteria of a "Manufacturer" as DDTC defines it.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.princelaw.com/2016/07/25/ddtc-issues-guidance-on-itar-registration/amp/

[ANADRILL]

Thanks, it sucks

[BPTactical]

Thanks, it sucks

To make it even worse, one does not have to be a FFL holder to fall under the aegis of DDTC/ITAR. I have spoken to a gentleman who owns a machine shop and contracts to a well known firearm manufacturer for some work.
He machines adjustment wheels for rear sights.
He is bound by ITAR even though he never sets his hands on a firearm.

Gun control by regulation.

[TheGrey]

Call Centennial Gun Club. They have a smith there. I don't know if they work on AKs since the ridiculous regulation came into play, but it's worth a shot.

[brutal]

Call Centennial Gun Club. They have a smith there. I don't know if they work on AKs since the ridiculous regulation came into play, but it's worth a shot.

The same Centennial Gun Club that sells out of spec AR15 lowers and refuses to take them back or replace? That Centennial Gun Club?

[TheGrey]

The same Centennial Gun Club that sells out of spec AR15 lowers and refuses to take them back or replace? That Centennial Gun Club?

I don't know anything about that. I was just looking at the OP's question. They've worked on things for me there, so I figured it couldn't hurt to suggest it.

[brutal]

I don't know anything about that. I was just looking at the OP's question. They've worked on things for me there, so I figured it couldn't hurt to suggest it.

I was just being snarky, and it was based on another members experience, not mine.

[izzy]

I'm moving down south soon and Centennial Gun Club is the closest range. I'm torn about getting a membership.

[TheGrey]

I was just being snarky, and it was based on another members experience, not mine.

You had me worried. :) I feel badly for that member.

[TheGrey]

I'm moving down south soon and Centennial Gun Club is the closest range. I'm torn about getting a membership.

I really like being a member. As you see from above, there's at least one unhappy person (the member brutal referenced). I guess it depends on what you're looking for. I like the variety of classes hey have, and I also like the fact that they have Ladies' Night- and that many women take advantage of the opportunity.

Also, the bathrooms are CLEAN.

I would not buy firearms there- there are better deals to be had elsewhere. But when I had an issue with a firearm, I could bring it right to the gunsmith on site. I like the indoor range.

[00tec]

You had me worried. :) I feel badly for that member.

https://www.ar-15.co/threads/150408-New-AR-15-at-Centennial-Gun-Club?highlight=Centennial+gun+club

Several members...

[ANADRILL]

yeah they sold me an out of spec lower

[ANADRILL]

I found someone to do it. Thanks for all the feedback!

[TheGrey]

Okay, several members have had issues with equipment purchases made there. I understand that. The gunsmith located there is a subcontractor, and is not affiliated with sales or ordering merchandise.

[ANADRILL]

It had nothing to do with centennial, I refuse to step foot in that shithouse.

[TheGrey]

Glad you found someone to help you.

[ANADRILL]

thanks