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Brass
10-02-2017, 13:11
If anyone went to The Store, or works there, please post your observations of general market conditions.

kidicarus13
10-02-2017, 13:16
My favorite .223/5.56 ammo sold out on my favorite online store. Maybe coincidence, maybe panic.

Monky
10-02-2017, 13:19
My favorite .223/5.56 ammo sold out on my favorite online store. Maybe coincidence, maybe panic.

Coincidence.. not sure where you shop but my normal places have plenty.

kidicarus13
10-02-2017, 13:25
Coincidence.. not sure where you shop but my normal places have plenty.

If that continues it'll be good for everyone involved.

TRnCO
10-02-2017, 14:11
If the Dems. were in control of the asylum called congress and Hillary was POTUS, not much doubt there'd be panic going on right now. Thankfully the Dems. aren't in charge and Hillary is just a bad memory.

Aloha_Shooter
10-02-2017, 15:24
Just thank God or whatever Deity you worship (or don't) that Hillary ISN'T POTUS right now -- she'd have pushed an executive order by lunch that would have restricted gun rights, implemented draconian "safety" measures, and probably opened up the DOJ on anyone who's ever filed a 4473.

roberth
10-02-2017, 15:31
Just thank God or whatever Deity you worship (or don't) that Hillary ISN'T POTUS right now -- she'd have pushed an executive order by lunch that would have restricted gun rights, implemented draconian "safety" measures, and probably opened up the DOJ on anyone who's ever filed a 4473.

Exactly, if she hadn't prior to this event then she would have done it now.

Thank God for President Trump.

KevDen2005
10-02-2017, 15:33
Got to be coincidence or isolated panic. Just checked three online places I use and all have plenty of all the regular calibers.

kidicarus13
10-02-2017, 15:51
I've checked .223/5.56 at SG Ammo throughout the day since their site shows # in stock and although people are buying, it doesn't appear to be to flying off the shelves.

KevDen2005
10-02-2017, 15:52
I've checked .223/5.56 at SG Ammo throughout the day since their site shows # in stock and although people are buying, it doesn't appear to be to flying off the shelves.

Because they all still have crates of it from 2012 and haven't shot any of it.

Probably less worried with Trump being president too

Great-Kazoo
10-02-2017, 15:56
With all the what ifs, of a Hillary win in 16. Is there anyone out there who isn't stocked up?

KevDen2005
10-02-2017, 15:58
With all the what ifs, of a Hillary win in 16. Is there anyone out there who isn't stocked up?

I only have two pallets of .223 left.

izzy
10-02-2017, 16:16
how much is on a pallet? 100,000?

KevDen2005
10-02-2017, 16:18
how much is on a pallet? 100,000?

Wouldn't you like to know

BPTactical
10-02-2017, 16:57
Wouldn't you like to know

How many is "to"?

KevDen2005
10-02-2017, 17:04
How many is "to"?

I missed the "w" on that one!

KevDen2005
10-02-2017, 17:05
Fixed. I can do my ABC's good!

Gman
10-02-2017, 17:24
how much is on a pallet? 100,000?
That depends on what the definition of "is" is.

wctriumph
10-02-2017, 19:37
I don't panic.

MrPrena
10-02-2017, 20:07
Few of my firearms did NOT sell on gunbroker today. Therefore, panic didn't start.

USMC88-93
10-02-2017, 20:18
I'm only going to say that I have had a weapon on consignment at a local shop since before the summer began; It sold today.

BPTactical
10-02-2017, 20:40
I missed the "w" on that one!

Uhmm, OK - how many is "tow" ?

MrPrena
10-02-2017, 21:26
48x40" standard pallet size. Most of the distrubution center usually does not stack higher than 4' (48") on ammo.
Now rest can be a done. "Assuming 100 round of box is x" by y", and only stack that same box, blah blah."

KevDen2005
10-02-2017, 22:27
Uhmm, OK - how many is "tow" ?

I'm dying here

Grant H.
10-03-2017, 21:19
With all the what ifs, of a Hillary win in 16. Is there anyone out there who isn't stocked up?

Is there anyone who isn't perpetually stocked up since Obama won the 1st time?

ray1970
10-03-2017, 21:22
I was thinking about checking the prices of used AR's on Armslist to gauge the level of panic amongst the peasants.

kidicarus13
10-03-2017, 23:02
Here's an idea... check the availability of Slide Fire and bump fire stocks over the next few days.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/704389365

DireWolf
10-03-2017, 23:10
Here's an idea... check the availability of Slide Fire and bump fire stocks over the next few days.


http://www.gunbroker.com/AR15-Parts/BI.aspx?Keywords=slide+fire&Sort=11
Heard from a contact at one of the larger online retailers that they completely sold out of slidefire stocks today...

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KAPA
10-03-2017, 23:19
Out of curiosity, what did these bump fire stocks sell for last week?

I saw these years ago and thought it was silly at best and dangerous at worse. Is it just a simple sliding stock you replace the old stock with or is it more complicated than that? Even if they ban these things how difficult would it be to make one on your own? Seems like a pretty simple gizmo but I am not educated on these things.

Bailey Guns
10-04-2017, 06:35
I bought one of the original SlideFire stocks. When I first heard of them and saw the price I laughed and said I'd never own one. Then I shot one. It was easily worth the money to me after actually trying it out.

ruthabagah
10-04-2017, 07:03
I was thinking about checking the prices of used AR's on Armslist to gauge the level of panic amongst the peasants.

Just sold 2 ar over there in the last 2 days. They have been sitting unsold for 2 month....

Erni
10-04-2017, 09:48
Just sold 2 ar over there in the last 2 days. They have been sitting unsold for 2 month....
For decent money or today's rock bottom pricing?

Great-Kazoo
10-04-2017, 15:52
I bought one of the original SlideFire stocks. When I first heard of them and saw the price I laughed and said I'd never own one. Then I shot one. It was easily worth the money to me after actually trying it out.

Nice to know someone likes them. After calling the BF CSR number regarding an issue with the stock and getting the run around. I was happy to dump the stock on someone who was made aware of the issue prior to purchase. Best $50 loss i ever took on a gun related item.

MrPrena
10-04-2017, 15:59
I do have that bump fire stock. It is cheap fun. That is about it.

KevDen2005
10-04-2017, 16:15
I do have that bump fire stock. It is cheap fun. That is about it.

That has to be the sarcasm font I have heard about.

Grant H.
10-04-2017, 16:25
That has to be the sarcasm font I have heard about.

Thanks for making me snort coffee...

Gman
10-04-2017, 16:48
That has to be the sarcasm font I have heard about.

No kidding. Those things can make ammo disappear.

MrPrena
10-04-2017, 18:52
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Doc45
10-04-2017, 19:19
At the last Tanner show Tac Con triggers had a table. Offered at a $100 discount over retail if bought at the show. Almost grabbed one but figured that would cover a decent amount of ammo.

tmckay2
10-04-2017, 19:35
I see slide fire stocks listed at 500 now. Not sure if they will sell though. I think they're pretty crappy honestly though I've used one on an Ares shrike and if money was no issue it would be kind of fun.

Bailey Guns
10-04-2017, 20:19
Nice to know someone likes them. After calling the BF CSR number regarding an issue with the stock and getting the run around. I was happy to dump the stock on someone who was made aware of the issue prior to purchase. Best $50 loss i ever took on a gun related item.

Mine works great. Two or three mags practicing and I was able to hit 1-2-3-4-5-6 rounds in succession. Couldn't keep count much past that. And it's pretty easy to dump a 30 on a life-sized target inside of 10 or 15 yards.

Will1776
10-04-2017, 22:24
Mine works great. Two or three mags practicing and I was able to hit 1-2-3-4-5-6 rounds in succession. Couldn't keep count much past that. And it's pretty easy to dump a 30 on a life-sized target inside of 10 or 15 yards.

Been wanting one for a while and figured now is the time. Found someone locally willing to sell his like new one that looks like a real stock for 150 :D

Watched one website's stock drop from over 300 to zero and they raised the price from 124 to 300....

Bailey Guns
10-05-2017, 06:38
I saw two for sale on a mountain community forum (Conifer/Bailey area) for $200...one for an AR and one for an AK.

http://www.pinecam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&p=1762953#p1762953

kidicarus13
10-05-2017, 07:57
Slide Fire STock $169.95 at Optics Planet. Get'em while they're HOT!

https://www.opticsplanet.com/slide-fire-solutions-ssar-15-ogr-rifle-stock.html

CS1983
10-05-2017, 07:58
Question -- do they require a separate, special buffer tube or do they work w/ mil-spec buffer tubes?

ETA: I see the description, but in looking at them before, conversion kit buffer tubes were coming up, so I found that confusing if they work with COTS/Milspec

SouthPaw
10-05-2017, 08:41
Slide Fire STock $169.95 at Optics Planet. Get'em while they're HOT!

https://www.opticsplanet.com/slide-fire-solutions-ssar-15-ogr-rifle-stock.html

Southpaw one on sale to boot [rockon][M2]

colorider
10-05-2017, 10:51
For those that have experience with a bump stock or slide fire, how easy, or how much practice does it take to dump a 60 round mag or 100 round drum with the cadence such as in the videos of the vegas incident.? Just curious as I have read that it is really hard to do that.

SideShow Bob
10-05-2017, 11:21
Slide Fire STock $169.95 at Optics Planet. Get'em while they're HOT!

https://www.opticsplanet.com/slide-fire-solutions-ssar-15-ogr-rifle-stock.html

$179.99 now.......

SouthPaw
10-05-2017, 11:46
$179.99 now.......

Just an FYI, these are not in stock...

esizer
10-05-2017, 12:07
For those that have experience with a bump stock or slide fire, how easy, or how much practice does it take to dump a 60 round mag or 100 round drum with the cadence such as in the videos of the vegas incident.? Just curious as I have read that it is really hard to do that.

My dad has an AR15 with one on there and IME, it wasn't hard to maintain a consistent cyclic rate. I only used 30 and 40 round PMAGS in that one, though.

Will1776
10-05-2017, 12:31
Just an FYI, these are not in stock...

Estimated to ship after 14 days but you get one reserved for you it looks like.

kidicarus13
10-05-2017, 12:49
Estimated to ship after 14 days but you get one reserved for you it looks like.


Due to extremely high demand, Slide Fire Solutions does not have an ETA for this item at this time. Slide Fire Solutions is our strategic partner, so we expect to be among the first to receive inventory. We will fulfill all pre-orders on a first come, first served basis. Place your pre-order now to reserve your place in line at no risk to you. We will ship as soon as possible, and won't charge you until we ship!

Dave_L
10-05-2017, 12:58
And now the NRA is on board with more regulations on these.


The National Rifle Association has called for "additional regulations" on bump-stocks, a rapid fire device used by the Las Vegas massacre gunman.
The group said: "Devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations."
Republicans have said they would consider banning the tool, despite years of resisting any gun control.
Lawmakers plan to hold hearings and consider a bill to outlaw the device.
The NRA called on Thursday for federal regulators to review the legality of bump-stocks.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41519815

SouthPaw
10-05-2017, 13:01
Michael: That item is currently on back order and we have a very high amount of back orders. The website is currently showing the estimated ship date of 14-25 days based on when we get the item in stock from Slide Fire

XXX: Is there an order coming in or is that just an estimated 14-25 days?

Michael: We do have an order scheduled to arrive, but Slide Fire has updated showing many orders might be on hold due to the recent events in Las Vegas but at this current time they are still showing we are scheduled to get the items by the end of Oct.

A chat I had with optics planet.

kidicarus13
10-05-2017, 13:11
Pretty soon there will be a Federal NO RAPID FIRE law enacted like some indoor ranges have.

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Aloha_Shooter
10-05-2017, 13:22
I think the recent NRA move is a fire break measure to forestall more intrusive and demanding reviews and legislation. The public mood is looking for some kind of action -- just saying "no" would be seen as obstructionist and cause people to reject arguments made against the other measures that Democrats are calling for. The very act of calling for a review is somewhat of a stalling tactic -- it gives time for the immediate public anger and desire for action to ebb away and allow reason to trickle in.

CS1983
10-05-2017, 13:22
And now the NRA is on board with more regulations on these.



http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41519815

NRA Fudds can pound sand. This is EXACTLY why I am not a member and refuse to become one. They're just neocons who have no spine.

colorider
10-05-2017, 13:36
Aloha is right on track.

Gman
10-05-2017, 13:49
+1

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fitz19d
10-05-2017, 14:31
We have a R majority, no one is losing seats over not doing something about guns. Fuck the NRA, and the libshit "R"s like the one from New York.

Saying this is ok is like fudds being ok with anything that doesn't hurt their hunting shotguns. It may be a niche product, but it's even sillier to consider banning when it's easy to do without a stock without (just not as well) but can be recreated at home really too. Bump boards etc.

Ceeding this is horseshit unless it's part of a trade for the suppressor bill. Even that is questionable but at least it's a trade. Not like caving will get any recognition from left voters.

fitz19d
10-05-2017, 14:58
Case in point.


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MrPrena
10-05-2017, 15:31
We have a R majority, no one is losing seats over not doing something about guns. Fuck the NRA, and the libshit "R"s like the one from New York.

Saying this is ok is like fudds being ok with anything that doesn't hurt their hunting shotguns. It may be a niche product, but it's even sillier to consider banning when it's easy to do without a stock without (just not as well) but can be recreated at home really too. Bump boards etc.

Ceeding this is horseshit unless it's part of a trade for the suppressor bill. Even that is questionable but at least it's a trade. Not like caving will get any recognition from left voters.

:)

theGinsue
10-05-2017, 15:36
Slide Fire STock $169.95 at Optics Planet. Get'em while they're HOT!

https://www.opticsplanet.com/slide-fire-solutions-ssar-15-ogr-rifle-stock.html

In one day, from available to a price increase to unavailable (sold out) to no ETA on availability due to high demand to this:

Product No Longer Available

Unfortunately Slide Fire Solutions SSAR-15 OGR Rifle Stock is no longer carried by OpticsPlanet. You can also explore other items in the Weapon Accessories, Gun Parts, Rifle Stocks, AR15 Stocks, AR15 Lower Parts, AR15 Parts categories yourself to try and find the perfect replacement for you!

Aloha_Shooter
10-05-2017, 15:41
What you're ignoring is that when things with this kind of visibility happen, it causes a huge swell amongst the self-described moderates who "want to do something". They don't know what "something" is but they know it's not nothing. When this happens, you have to have a multi-pronged response. If you just say "no" to everything as many want to do, you risk being labeled as such and all your responses get ignored. "Oh, I don't care what they say about universal background checks or high capacity magazines because they wouldn't even discuss ______".

The pressure to "do something" will ease as time goes on but we have to get past the ground swell created by the immediacy of the event. That immediacy is precisely what the gun control totalitarians are trying to take advantage of and precisely what we have to take from them. They know this as well as we do and that's why they keep exerting constant pressure.

As Bruce Lee said, "be like water." I think that's exactly what the NRA is trying to do right now.

kidicarus13
10-05-2017, 15:42
In one day, from available to a price increase to unavailable (sold out) to no ETA on availability due to high demand to this:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/business/bump-stocks.html

Walmart and Cabel's remove SF stocks from their website

DireWolf
10-05-2017, 16:03
What you're ignoring is that when things with this kind of visibility happen, it causes a huge swell amongst the self-described moderates who "want to do something". They don't know what "something" is but they know it's not nothing. When this happens, you have to have a multi-pronged response. If you just say "no" to everything as many want to do, you risk being labeled as such and all your responses get ignored. "Oh, I don't care what they say about universal background checks or high capacity magazines because they wouldn't even discuss ______".

The pressure to "do something" will ease as time goes on but we have to get past the ground swell created by the immediacy of the event. That immediacy is precisely what the gun control totalitarians are trying to take advantage of and precisely what we have to take from them. They know this as well as we do and that's why they keep exerting constant pressure.

As Bruce Lee said, "be like water." I think that's exactly what the NRA is trying to do right now.

The problems are that:

1. They will NEVER allow the pendulum to swing the other direction, so any consession is a permanent loss this side of a civil war.

2. There will ALWAYS be another event which allows them to take the next incremental step - and if an event doesn't happen naturally then one will be engineered. This pattern will continue indefinitely as long as results are obtained (see point #3)

3. If LE dealt with kidnapping/terrorist/ransom demands in that way, we'd see no end in escalations - my understanding that this is the very reason why acquiescing to ransom/demands is almost universally rejected in LE circles (if this is incorrect, someone with direct experience here can chime in)

4. They don't listen to anything we say anyway, so fuckem' - go into it with the understanding that they will NEVER be happy, even (especially) if they get what they want, and understand that we can ignore their pissing and moaning just as effectively as they can ignore logic, reality, and cause/effect relationships...



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thvigil11
10-05-2017, 16:14
If you give a mouse a cookie.

Conservatives never seem to learn the lesson. The left does not give, sway or concede. Compromise to them is for everyone else to give them what they want, either immediately or incrementally.

SouthPaw
10-05-2017, 16:27
In one day, from available to a price increase to unavailable (sold out) to no ETA on availability due to high demand to this:

I spoke to an individual this morning who has pallets of Slide Fire stocks in his shop. He told me that Slide Fire called him and asked to "buy back" any extra stock he had so they can fill orders because they ran out. He said he shipped them (6) pallets..

Aloha_Shooter
10-05-2017, 16:27
The Left doesn't give, sway or concede but the Middle does. Look at how attitudes toward guns and gun control moved back toward the center and common sense even during the Obama years with Democratic control of the Senate, House, Hollywood, and MSM. Losing the center by appearing obstructionist is how the Left gets to implement their more heinous policies. That's why it's a multi-pronged defense ... why you keep them talking about bump stocks, you counter their BS and lies regarding suppressors and universal background checks. You point out the inconsistency between their stance that poor people can't afford IDs to vote but apparently aren't important when it comes to self-defense because the Left wants to require IDs to buy ammo as well as guns.

I don't have a problem with apparent retreat on a small issue if it gives us the ability to wage effective battle on the larger ones.

DireWolf
10-05-2017, 16:38
I don't have a problem with apparent retreat on a small issue if it gives us the ability to wage effective battle on the larger ones.

I don't disagree with this concept, but I also can't remeber a single victory which has been achieved in this fight. Things like lack of a renewed AWB, ATF backpeddling on bans of M855/pistol-braces/etc. are stalemates, not actual victories (any recent "victory" can only be consided as such when viewed as managing to avoid a crushing loss, but definately no more than that)

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Dave_L
10-05-2017, 16:40
The problems are that:

1. They will NEVER allow the pendulum to swing the other direction, so any consession is a permanent loss this side of a civil war.

2. There will ALWAYS be another event which allows them to take the next incremental step - and if an event doesn't happen naturally then one will be engineered. This pattern will continue indefinitely as long as results are obtained (see point #3)

3. If LE dealt with kidnapping/terrorist/ransom demands in that way, we'd see no end in escalations - my understanding that this is the very reason why acquiescing to ransom/demands is almost universally rejected in LE circles (if this is incorrect, someone with direct experience here can chime in)

4. They don't listen to anything we say anyway, so fuckem' - go into it with the understanding that they will NEVER be happy, even (especially) if they get what they want, and understand that we can ignore their pissing and moaning just as effectively as they can ignore logic, reality, and cause/effect relationships...



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Just ask them why do they trust you with one gun but not ten? You'll usually find out that they would prefer you have no guns because if they trust you with one gun, ten shouldnt be any different but they can't handle that thought. So they revert to "no guns!" once you try to show the holes in their thinking.

MED
10-05-2017, 16:42
I stopped by Walmart off Bowles/470. The ammunition shelf was fully stocked with all the rollback stickers still in place; there were no signs of panic buying (so far)

thvigil11
10-05-2017, 16:43
The Left doesn't give, sway or concede but the Middle does. Look at how attitudes toward guns and gun control moved back toward the center and common sense even during the Obama years with Democratic control of the Senate, House, Hollywood, and MSM. Losing the center by appearing obstructionist is how the Left gets to implement their more heinous policies. That's why it's a multi-pronged defense ... why you keep them talking about bump stocks, you counter their BS and lies regarding suppressors and universal background checks. You point out the inconsistency between their stance that poor people can't afford IDs to vote but apparently aren't important when it comes to self-defense because the Left wants to require IDs to buy ammo as well as guns.

I don't have a problem with apparent retreat on a small issue if it gives us the ability to wage effective battle on the larger ones.

In a fair fight, yes the middle can be swayed. While I respect your opinion and see your logic, I don't share your optimism or faith with the ability of the NRA or the GOP to deal with the left. Regardless of public opinion on the right, middle or left. This is going to end badly for us gun lovers, with no concessions.

To use another analogy. The liberals are like the bird in the "playing chess with a pigeon story." Unfortunately, the leadership on our side think the game is checkers and are taking strategy from Zap Brannigans Big Book of War.

"You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down."

buffalobo
10-05-2017, 16:51
I don't disagree with this concept, but I also can't remeber a single victory which has been achieved in this fight. Things like lack of a renewed AWB, ATF backpeddling on bans of M855/pistol-braces/etc. are stalemates, not actual victories (any recent "victory" can only be consided as such when viewed as managing to avoid a crushing loss, but definately no more than that)

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If you're unarmed you are a victim

Brass
10-05-2017, 17:06
CDNN has plenty of 6920s for $799, so I guess that is as good as any proof of no panic.

MrPrena
10-05-2017, 19:53
I think panic buying is mainly on slidefire/bumpfire/bumpski, and echo/BFS3/3mr type of stuff for now.

Will1776
10-05-2017, 20:27
I think panic buying is mainly on slidefire/bumpfire/bumpski, and echo/BFS3/3mr type of stuff for now.

This^

I'm hoping this whole shit show will teach the libs that semi ARs are not automatic and there is a difference. Then maybe they'll stop attacking them so much. Doubtful tho.

KevDen2005
10-05-2017, 21:11
CDNN has plenty of 6920s for $799, so I guess that is as good as any proof of no panic.

That sucks, I paid $925 for mine before Sandy Hook.

KevDen2005
10-05-2017, 21:16
For those that have experience with a bump stock or slide fire, how easy, or how much practice does it take to dump a 60 round mag or 100 round drum with the cadence such as in the videos of the vegas incident.? Just curious as I have read that it is really hard to do that.

I have one that sits in a box in the basement. It was fun for a day, really. Just wasted ammo and have something different to bring to our yearly family fun shoot. But super easy to use.

Bailey Guns
10-05-2017, 21:28
For those that have experience with a bump stock or slide fire, how easy, or how much practice does it take to dump a 60 round mag or 100 round drum with the cadence such as in the videos of the vegas incident.? Just curious as I have read that it is really hard to do that.



Mine works great. Two or three mags practicing and I was able to hit 1-2-3-4-5-6 rounds in succession. Couldn't keep count much past that. And it's pretty easy to dump a 30 on a life-sized target inside of 10 or 15 yards.

Aloha_Shooter
10-06-2017, 16:08
In a fair fight, yes the middle can be swayed. While I respect your opinion and see your logic, I don't share your optimism or faith with the ability of the NRA or the GOP to deal with the left. Regardless of public opinion on the right, middle or left. This is going to end badly for us gun lovers, with no concessions.

To use another analogy. The liberals are like the bird in the "playing chess with a pigeon story." Unfortunately, the leadership on our side think the game is checkers and are taking strategy from Zap Brannigans Big Book of War.

"You see, killbots have a preset kill limit. Knowing their weakness, I sent wave after wave of my own men at them until they reached their limit and shut down."

It is NEVER a fair fight with the Left but we will absolutely lose if we let the Left paint us as pure obstructionists. I won't talk to the GOP as they've proven their ineffectiveness the past 9 months but the NRA has been very effective in dealing with the Left and I'm concerned primarily with US -- ordinary gun owners -- in swaying the Middle. We have no sway with the Middle if we appear to validate the Left's contention that we're all extremist single-minded psychos (yes, I know, they're looking the mirror when they make these characterizations).

spqrzilla
10-07-2017, 21:27
So I was walking the Pueblo Tanner show this afternoon, and walked past a dealer table - from the stock, a real dealer not some yahoo selling the closet's gun rack contents. And he was explaining the law of bump stocks, and NFA to his buddy....

And getting so much of it completely backwards, outright wrong, and in places so utterly confused that I was at the thin, ragged ends of my patience of staying out of it. So I walked faster.

KevDen2005
10-07-2017, 21:34
So I was walking the Pueblo Tanner show this afternoon, and walked past a dealer table - from the stock, a real dealer not some yahoo selling the closet's gun rack contents. And he was explaining the law of bump stocks, and NFA to his buddy....

And getting so much of it completely backwards, outright wrong, and in places so utterly confused that I was at the thin, ragged ends of my patience of staying out of it. So I walked faster.

Isn't that one of our biggest problems as gun owners, we don't stay educated and enough on topics within our realm to really argue points correctly and intelligently.

And I agree it's getting old I would have walked away too.

SouthPaw
10-08-2017, 00:35
It appears a lot of people are terrified to mention bump stocks. Hickok45 removed his review of the slide fire stock from a year ago. Gunbroker also seems to have removed the sale of such stocks on their website as well.

kidicarus13
10-08-2017, 08:19
Gunbroker also seems to have removed the sale of such stocks on their website as well.

Looks like that may have been a one time removal because I see plenty of them listed on there now for ~$500

hollohas
10-08-2017, 08:35
It appears a lot of people are terrified to mention bump stocks. Hickok45 removed his review of the slide fire stock from a year ago. Gunbroker also seems to have removed the sale of such stocks on their website as well.Youtube has started giving strikes to users who post bumpfire videos. They're even giving strikes to the old posts. 3 strikes you're out apparently. So a lot of the major gun video guys are pulling the videos so they don't get banned and lose their revenue stream.

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/10/robert-farago/breaking-youtube-bump-fire-stock-producers-face-permanent-ban/

ben4372
10-08-2017, 09:12
I was watching This Week on ABC. A talking head said the Las Vegas shooting killed more people than all extreme muslin killing in last ten years. The sit down between the two ex military congressmen was eyeopening. https://truervine.com/2017/10/08/sunday-on-this-week-congressman-seth-moulton-and-rep-scott-taylor-both-iraq-war-veterans-with-opposing-views-on-gun-control-sit-down-with-martha-raddatz-to/. I wish Scott Taylor was in Colorado. I suppose its just part of the cycle.

Gman
10-08-2017, 09:15
Islamic extremist killings in the US? Maybe. Anywhere else in the world? Not even close.

What this had to do with Vegas? Nothing. Why did they decide to choose a window of 10 years? Because it leaves out the nearly 3000 killed in the 9/11 attacks.

hurley842002
10-08-2017, 09:19
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/165147-Any-signs-of-another-panic-in-gun-shops

Would have been a good place to link the article.

theGinsue
10-08-2017, 09:57
https://www.ar-15.co/threads/165147-Any-signs-of-another-panic-in-gun-shops

Would have been a good place to link the article.

Agreed. Merged.

spqrzilla
10-09-2017, 21:21
I was watching This Week on ABC. A talking head said the Las Vegas shooting killed more people than all extreme muslin killing in last ten years.

Dowd. A brazen liar. The Pulse night club in Orlando and the San Bernardino shooters alone add up to more than the Las Vegas incident.

MrPrena
10-09-2017, 21:27
ABC tallking dumb again. ABC got dumber after Eisner, Jobs, and Iger involvement.