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Anyone had good/bad experience with one/more?
I presently have a 2016 F-150 (zero issues) and am looking around right now.
The resale on these, like the Tacoma, is crazy.
Anyone had good/bad experience with one/more?
I presently have a 2016 F-150 (zero issues) and am looking around right now.
The resale on these, like the Tacoma, is crazy.I don't think you can go wrong if it's something in your budget I would definitely look at it over the F-150 I recently just got a brand-new Tacoma and I'm very pleased with it
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KevDen2005
10-03-2017, 09:31
Anyone had good/bad experience with one/more?
I presently have a 2016 F-150 (zero issues) and am looking around right now.
The resale on these, like the Tacoma, is crazy.
After doing lots of research on the motor and knowing three different people with one, this will be my next truck. I have never owned any Toyota. But I am very impressed with this truck.
Another truck I am planning on checking out is the Nissan Titan when they put the diesel in it. I still don't think it is as tough and rugged and reliable as a Tundra but willing to give it a look.
Delfuego
10-03-2017, 09:41
Are you towing or planning on an in-bed camper?
Toyota's kick ass I have owned them, have one and will continue to buy Toyota. That said the Tundra looks very big, but is a 1/2 ton truck. If you will need to pull or carry a lot of weight, you may want a 3/4 or one ton truck. If you don't I would not hesitate to buy a Tundra.
My buddy who is a toyota mechanic had 3 different tundras... He had a camper and a boat.. he went to an F250.. because while it would pull.. it struggled far too much to make it up the hills.
KevDen2005
10-03-2017, 09:48
My buddy who is a toyota mechanic had 3 different tundras... He had a camper and a boat.. he went to an F250.. because while it would pull.. it struggled far too much to make it up the hills.
Curious what kind of camper. I may get one down the road too, but I'm looking at like an 18 foot style camper not something really big.
I wish they would put a diesel in a Tundra.
SouthPaw
10-03-2017, 10:10
Awesome trucks that you will pay dearly for.
We have a 2012 5.7 with a factory supercharger. It has been awesome, not one issue so far (~45K miles). We've done a bit of towing with a 6500lb 24' camper with no issues but I can see where it might struggle with something large.
This will be our daughter's 1st car when she starts driving in 2 years and then we'll replace it with another Tundra.
Martinjmpr
10-03-2017, 10:39
Anyone had good/bad experience with one/more?
I presently have a 2016 F-150 (zero issues) and am looking around right now.
The resale on these, like the Tacoma, is crazy.
You have a two-year- old truck and you're looking to trade in already? Is there something wrong with your Ford or does it just have really high miles?
KevDen2005
10-03-2017, 10:44
We have a 2012 5.7 with a factory supercharger. It has been awesome, not one issue so far (~45K miles). We've done a bit of towing with a 6500lb 24' camper with no issues but I can see where it might struggle with something large.
This will be our daughter's 1st car when she starts driving in 2 years and then we'll replace it with another Tundra.
Your daughter is going to get a 2012 Tundra? Do you need an adopted 34 year old?
hurley842002
10-03-2017, 10:56
Your daughter is going to get a 2012 Tundra? Do you need an adopted 34 year old?
Or if 33 is a better number for him, I'll be his huckleberry.
Zero towing or camping use...more like a Home Depot weekend rig. The Ford has super low miles...less than 4K a year. I got a great deal on it but my smarter half does not like it. That was the end of the discussion! No trade on the Ford...a buddy who knows how I take care of my cars is scooping it up...
I love mine, however a few things to consider would be. While super reliable great engine and especially gearing..... It is getting long in the tooth/outdated. The 18 had been yet another minor refresh. Basically if electronic fanciness or otherwise super nice interior is important, then you may be disappointed.
The top trim is over priced and kinda silly since you can do better after market for cheaper. Except that power rear window..... But i never use the sliding myself, didn't feel like the premium with it.
They get a lot more reasonable if you get the mid trim like just the sr5. Gets you the important factory upgrades. My 15 sr5 with 5k miles was like 32k.
I also like they're double cab is actually usable sized, adults seat well etc. Which allows a 6.5 ft bed had been super handy vs doing 4ft Short bed of the crew Max.
There are rare unicorn 8ft bed double cabs too.
The SR5 was the trim level i was aiming at. The only feature not dialed in on the SR5 was the heated seats. I agree that the higher trim levels are overpriced for what you receive.
The price difference between a several year old model and an end of year new 2017 is but a few grand right now.
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hollohas
10-03-2017, 12:58
I have a 2010 Tundra double cab TRD Offroad. 115k miles. Purchased it new. Zero maintenance or mechanical issues other than a previously mentioned issue (in another thread) with some garbage aftermarket front calipers I had put on.
I pull a 30ft travel trailer that's 5500lbs dry. It actually pulls pretty good but the gas mileage while towing is shit. Got like 8 mpg going to Rifle earlier this year. Combined with the small fuel tank in the earlier models such as mine, that's a lot of fill ups. The newer models have a much bigger tank. The adaptive Tow Haul mode is fantastic.
But, I can mostly do the speed limit up to Vail with the trailer. Have no problem passing folks on I25.
Mine, and the earlier models like it, can have an anoying amount of bed bounce when unloaded. Can rattle your teeth on the concrete highways. Don't know if they've fixed that in the newer version.
It does very well in the snow with BFG All Terrain rubber. (Not the rugged trial version from the factory, those tires suck on snow).
I once had a major brain fart when picking up some landscape bricks. The store offered me a deal if I took the entire pallet. Like a dumbass I said "yes, load em up." Turned out it was close to 4,000 pounds. I only had a 5 mile drive home and unloaded immediately, but the truck suffered no damage. Have driven some 80k miles since then without any issues.
Only things I've replaced are the fluids, filters, tires, wipers, windshield, brakes and I added some aftermarket Bilsteins just because. It's been a solid truck overall.
My neighbor has a new tundra.
He asked to borrow my new Chevy duramax to tow a hydraulic dump trailer because his truck couldn't pull it.
I declined however, I don't Loan my truck out.
Moral is, if you aren't pulling anything, you will get an overpriced truck, but they keep great resale and they seem to last a long time.
hollohas
10-03-2017, 13:58
My neighbor has a new tundra.
He asked to borrow my new Chevy duramax to tow a hydraulic dump trailer because his truck couldn't pull it.
How heavy? Was it a gooseneck trailer?
If it was a standard trailer 10K or under he was just being a girl
Or maybe he didn't have a trailer brake controller?
Curious what kind of camper. I may get one down the road too, but I'm looking at like an 18 foot style camper not something really big.
His was an in bed style pop up.. not a tow behind. With a mastercraft boat.. and it struggled.
Just a standard hitch/bumper pull trailer
I think it was a 10k hydraulic dump trailer.
Not sure on brake controller, I let him borrow my small trailer that has brakes and he had a 7 pin but didn't pay attention if he had a BC in there.
His was an in bed style pop up.. not a tow behind. With a mastercraft boat.. and it struggled.
Just sounds odd.... i see them hailing more on the highway. I always thought of them as in between truck classes in performance.
OP, hoping a few of the Facebook groups or forum, can find good info and examples of what people haul.
hollohas
10-03-2017, 15:46
Another truck I am planning on checking out is the Nissan Titan when they put the diesel in it. I still don't think it is as tough and rugged and reliable as a Tundra but willing to give it a look.
They already did. I've seen a few around town.
hollohas
10-03-2017, 15:55
That said the Tundra looks very big, but is a 1/2 ton truck. If you will need to pull or carry a lot of weight, you may want a 3/4 or one ton truck. If you don't I would not hesitate to buy a Tundra.
Someone explain to me how a 1600lb payload ISN'T a 3/4 ton...
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hunterhawk
10-03-2017, 17:04
I love my tundra, had a dodge before and my tundra is a dream to drive in the mountains compared to that or my dad's chevy. Once i get a camper ill see how it does, by then i might be ready for a new truck anyway. Hoping some day for a diesel tundra
Delfuego
10-03-2017, 17:07
Someone explain to me how a 1600lb payload ISN'T a 3/4 ton...This infomation comes from 2 guys I trust and have know for years (1 for decades) both are Toyota Master mechanics and own Toyota shops. Both own RV's. I listen to them and they work on my Toyota's. I am not a truck expert, but I did stay in a Budget Express Inn last weekend ;)
hollohas
10-03-2017, 17:22
Oh, dont get me wrong. I have no delusions of what the truck is and isn't capable of. I know it is absolutely not a heavy duty pickup. My question was more basic in nature. what makes a truck 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton. Because based on payload the tundra is a three-quarter ton. And I know that Toyota is pretty conservative with their numbers.
Delfuego
10-03-2017, 17:28
I think it is a "just barely" thing. I always though they would haul the mail because of their size. I think for towing it would be good enough, but they said for bed-weight get bigger model. I wish they had a bigger Toyota!
hollohas
10-03-2017, 17:45
I wish they had a bigger Toyota!
I 100% agree. It's long overdue for a real update too. When I purchased my 2010, by the numbers, it was the most capable in the class. Now, not so much. It gets beat by most in HP, towing and payload, not to mention equipment and tech.
But, that's Toyota. They are conservative and pretty slow. Rumors of a HD Tundra have been circling for years and years. Either they haven't perfected it to Toyota's standards or they simply don't think Americans will have a taste for a HD truck with a Toyota badge. I wish they'd try, because I'd buy one. As it stands, I'll likely end up getting a heavy duty truck from one of the other guys in the next few years.
" The only feature not dialed in on the SR5 was the heated seats."
I'll tell you something...My last personal vehicle had heated seats. My car before that had heated seats. My wife's car has heated seats. My WORK VEHICLE doesn't have heated seats. When I bought my Tacoma, IT HAD HEATED SEATS. My butt deserves no less.
I was looking at Tundras in July, and after carefully planning what i will be using the truck for I picked up a year old F350 6.7 SRW. I plan on towing a travel trailer a few times a year, because I have younger kids that enjoy camping. Sure the tundra will likely pull it fine, but I know a diesel can pull it with ease.
If Toyota released a diesel tundra, I'd likely trade in the F350 for one.
Bailey Guns
10-03-2017, 17:50
Someone explain to me how a 1600lb payload ISN'T a 3/4 ton...
If I recall correctly this is just a dinosaur term leftover from the early days of rating truck payloads. They aren't accurate any longer...just traditional ratings.
If you look up payloads for a typical 3/4 ton truck (say an F-250) you're gonna see they're over twice what is listed for the Tundra. Example: F-250 4x2 Reg Cab 141.5 wheelbase has a payload rating of 4150 pounds. Not to mention the tow rating will be almost twice as much as well.
hollohas
10-03-2017, 18:41
If I recall correctly this is just a dinosaur term leftover from the early days of rating truck payloads. They aren't accurate any longer...just traditional ratings.
If you look up payloads for a typical 3/4 ton truck (say an F-250) you're gonna see they're over twice what is listed for the Tundra. Example: F-250 4x2 Reg Cab 141.5 wheelbase has a payload rating of 4150 pounds. Not to mention the tow rating will be almost twice as much as well.Well, that explains it. It doesn't make any sense, but it answered my question. Thank you.
" The only feature not dialed in on the SR5 was the heated seats."
I'll tell you something...My last personal vehicle had heated seats. My car before that had heated seats. My wife's car has heated seats. My WORK VEHICLE doesn't have heated seats. When I bought my Tacoma, IT HAD HEATED SEATS. My butt deserves no less.
Can always do those aftermarket. for me again the TRD package is absurdly priced.
No link handy but the fb tundra pages been linking a article about upcoming toyota plans. Supposedly drive train updates finally, but nothing specific.
hollohas
10-03-2017, 19:34
One other thing I like about the Tundra is they have stuck with a steel body. Yes, it adds weight, but it's tough.
A couple years ago I got stuck in a massive hail storm on the drive home from work right next to my coworker driving a new F150. His truck had some hail damage but mine didn't have even a single tiny dent.
NFATrustGuy
10-03-2017, 20:13
I'm hoping to buy a new Tundra as soon as my Subaru sells. I'd probably buy a Tacoma except I want an 8 foot bed and that's not available in a Tacoma.
I purchased a new crew cab Tacoma in 2013. Tried to really like it but it was too small and too plain for me. The best part was the resale...it was almost like driving it for free for a year.
BushMasterBoy
10-04-2017, 00:22
I drive a Silverado. 6.0 gas Wish I had a Colorado diesel with a manual trans. Foreign named cars seem to be problematic i.e. "VW" Good luck with whatever you get!
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Tundra/2008/engine/engine_failure.shtml
Jeffrey Lebowski
10-04-2017, 06:06
I don't think you can go wrong if it's something in your budget I would definitely look at it over the F-150 I recently just got a brand-new Tacoma and I'm very pleased with it
This is me, x2. Mine is a 2016 I got late 2015 and it replaced a 2013 Tacoma. Love the current gen Tundra.
After about a decade with a 5.9 CTD 3500 (SRW) with MT, THEN my wife decided we should get a camper. It is only a 2300lb hard-side pop-up, but the Tacoma can pull it - highest I've done is Berthoud so far. I don't love towing with it, but I love driving the truck in town, and I don't love towing period. I dumped the CTD b/c new baby and my wife didn't love a 1 ton with MT. I do love that the Tacoma would fit anywhere. Since then, have added a 16 4Runner and 12 FJ.
Problem is while I love the current gen Tundra, it really would have all the same parking problems as the CTD. I couldn't fit it in my garage at work. If I were really going to do it, at this point with the young one, I'd actually do the Sequoia, make my wife drive that, and probably take her 4Runner, or more likely dump the FJ and DD the Tacoma/4Runner.
Cliffs notes: How often and how much are you going to pull?
Colorado Osprey
10-04-2017, 06:12
I drive a Silverado. 6.0 gas Wish I had a Colorado diesel with a manual trans. Foreign named cars seem to be problematic i.e. "VW" Good luck with whatever you get!
https://www.carcomplaints.com/Toyota/Tundra/2008/engine/engine_failure.shtml
The Chevy Colorado Diesel was only available in top trim crew cab with the Diesel making it a $60k small/mid size truck. At least now they are offering it in less than top trim conditions starting at $41-46k. Still hard to swallow that price in less than a full size truck.
I am in the market for a new 1/2 ton truck as well and the thing that eliminated the Toyota Tundra for me is the crappy fuel economy. Fuel prices will continue to go up over the next decade I plan to have the truck and real people are reporting only 14mpg average. Some as low as 10 when using the truck for work. Toyota has failed in increasing fuel economy since the introduction of the Tundra. Its best fuel economy was 2002-2003 which was not really a full size truck and it was 15mpg.
Toyota it is time to step up! They haven't increased fuel economy in the Tacoma since then either.
hurley842002
10-04-2017, 06:21
The Chevy Colorado Diesel is only available in top trim with the Diesel making it a $60k small/mid size truck.
This is not accurate, the top of the line ZR2 off road package with duramax is just over $46k, the Z71 was just over $41k.
Colorado Osprey
10-04-2017, 06:24
Sorry, I was just editing that ...New changed for 2018
hurley842002
10-04-2017, 06:25
Foreign named cars seem to be problematic i.e. "VW"
Says foreign cars are problematic, uses "VW" as his example....
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Bailey Guns
10-04-2017, 06:30
The Chevy Colorado Diesel was only available in top trim crew cab with the Diesel making it a $60k small/mid size truck. At least now they are offering it in less than top trim conditions starting at $41-46k.
This is not accurate, the top of the line ZR2 off road package with duramax is just over $46k, the Z71 was just over $41k.
Not accurate at all. I just paid $35,800 and change out the door (that included sales tax after the trade) for a new 2017 Colorado Duramax in mid-level LT trim. Sticker on it was just over $42k. It's got decent towing ability, it's roomy, super-quiet ride and it's getting 30mpg in combined driving. Pretty hard to beat. The 2018s are just slightly higher.
Chevy's diesel cars were offered only in the top trim-level package w/diesel.
hurley842002
10-04-2017, 06:34
Not accurate at all. I just paid $35,800 and change out the door (that included sales tax after the trade) for a new 2017 Colorado Duramax in mid-level LT trim. Sticker on it was just over $42k. It's got decent towing ability, it's roomy, super-quiet ride and it's getting 30mpg in combined driving. Pretty hard to beat. The 2018s are just slightly higher.
Chevy's diesel cars were offered only in the top trim-level package w/diesel.
I'm quite envious of your Colorado/Cruz diesel combo...
Bailey Guns
10-04-2017, 06:37
I never saw myself buying another new truck. But I really like that Colorado.
hollohas
10-04-2017, 08:25
I am in the market for a new 1/2 ton truck as well and the thing that eliminated the Toyota Tundra for me is the crappy fuel economy. Fuel prices will continue to go up over the next decade I plan to have the truck and real people are reporting only 14mpg average. Some as low as 10 when using the truck for work. Toyota has failed in increasing fuel economy since the introduction of the Tundra. Its best fuel economy was 2002-2003 which was not really a full size truck and it was 15mpg.
Yeah, their failure to improve over the years is disappointing. I get 14.5 combined mpg when not towing. However, that's after 115k miles and with the 4.3 rear axle that comes with the tow package. I suspect it is better with the standard rear.
hurley842002
10-04-2017, 08:39
I never saw myself buying another new truck. But I really like that Colorado.
Admittedly I'm a bit of a foreign truck/SUV snob (Toyota and Nissan), but a duramax Colorado pretty much has me sold should I buy a new truck.
BushMasterBoy
10-04-2017, 08:44
Thousands of VW's parked at Pikes Peak International Raceway waiting to be rebuilt. New VW's at that. They won't pass emissions. God knows what else is wrong with them. Best results I have ever had, have been with GM trucks. Local diesel shop I know says least problem of all diesels is Duramax. Personally I am a gas guy. I can bump up the performance dramatically with a few gallons of E-85. Do your due diligence.
Re mpg. I was getting 17.8 down to 16 after over size tires. Though my driving is usually 5mins to highway then 90% doing 80mph on i25 then a free side roads to whichever job site.
kawiracer14
10-04-2017, 11:51
I didn't read the whole thread but I have a 2013 Tundra with a suspension lift that I absolutely love. I have had zero issues with it other than an software bug that they reflashed and it went away.
I'm right around 43k miles on it. Drive it up to Winter Park almost every weekend during ski season. Pulled a large boat to lake Dillon in June with no problem.
BlasterBob
10-04-2017, 13:44
Bought my big red Tundra Crew Max new in Raton in 2008. Still have it with only 65,000 miles. Left Colorado in 2015 and we now live in the “rust belt” (Illinois). I am pretty confident that I have one of the very few 2008 Tundras in Illinois without any rust. My Tundra is a great vehicle without any problems other than the gas mileage which is not real great. Had dual exhaust put on a couple years ago and noted a very slight improvement in the MPG. Resale value on this truck is in the neighborhood of $21,000. Wow, guess I’ll keep it until I take up residence under the sod. [blaster]
I never saw myself buying another new truck. But I really like that Colorado.
The new Colorado is pretty nice. It's rated as a mid-size truck, but it seems to be about the size that full-size trucks used to be in the '80s.
SamuraiCO
10-06-2017, 06:44
2013 Tundra TRD crewmax limited. I had one of the original Tundras from 2000 and sold for $7500 in 2013 before buying my new truck. Got the new for the bigger rig, more room and towing capacity.
I did not buy for gas mileage I bought for the quality of the product. Just like my last Tundra no issues. It is my daily driver and every fall I load up my pups for pheasants. I have plenty of room for gear or other dudes.
Heated seats in the winter a godsend. I can set my defrost and heated seats to high in the winter and with the remote start come out to a warm truck when I work my 2-10 shifts.
This summer I rented a trailer and towed it to Taylor Park Reservoir. It was close to 7000 pounds loaded. Averaged 9 miles per gallon. Had no problem keeping speed limit. If I bought new I would get the larger 38 gallon tank if I was planning on getting a trailer. If I do purchase a trailer I will get an aftermarket 40 gallon fuel tank.
I am looking into purchasing a medium size trailer that I can tow comfortably to use until I retire. The rv market have many options to choose from to meet most family needs.
I hope they come out with an HD before I retire and get a fifth wheel. But who knows the libtards will probably find a way to ban diesels and ruin something else we all enjoy.
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NFATrustGuy
10-10-2017, 22:54
Went and drove a Tundra today. Gonna buy one.
Need to find a good auto broker to work the transaction for me. I just can't handle dealing with the dealer games and then walking away feeling like I got the short end of the stick. I've purchased a new Honda and a new Subaru via an auto broker and both transactions were almost completely painless. Time to get the ball rolling on a Tundra.
I just bought a 2003 Sequoia, which is the SUV version of the Tundra. 4.7L gasser with a four speed automatic and 4WD. It has 150,000 miles, but just changed the timing belt/water pump, so I expect 300k with regular maintenance. I used to have a 2000 Sienna and the Sequoia reminds me of the minivan except the Sequoia is far more comfortable. It won't be a daily driver but will make a nice long road trip vehicle. Now I need to decide what to do with my F250. I wish I had more places to keep vehicles parked and out of the weather.
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