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Aloha_Shooter
10-05-2017, 12:02
Note this is an editorial and NOT the position of the ComPost itself. Nonetheless, I'm actually shocked they published this piece of honesty from someone who is still anti-gun.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-used-to-think-gun-control-was-the-answer-my-research-told-me-otherwise/2017/10/03/d33edca6-a851-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html?tid=pm_opinions_pop


Then, my colleagues and I at FiveThirtyEight spent three months analyzing all 33,000 (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gun-deaths/) lives ended by guns each year in the United States, and I wound up frustrated in a whole new way. We looked at what interventions might have saved those people, and the case for the policies I’d lobbied for crumbled when I examined the evidence. The best ideas left standing were narrowly tailored interventions to protect subtypes of potential victims, not broad attempts to limit the lethality of guns.


When I looked at the other oft-praised policies, I found out that no gun owner walks into the store to buy an “assault weapon.” It’s an invented classification that includes any semi-automatic that has two or more features (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Assault_Weapons_Ban), such as a bayonet mount, a rocket-propelled grenade-launcher mount, a folding stock or a pistol grip. But guns are modular, and any hobbyist can easily add these features at home, just as if they were snapping together Legos.


As my co-workers and I kept looking at the data, it seemed less and less clear that one broad gun-control restriction could make a big difference. Two-thirds of gun deaths (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/mass-shootings-are-a-bad-way-to-understand-gun-violence/) in the United States every year are suicides. Almost no proposed restriction would make it meaningfully harder for people with guns on hand to use them.


However, the next-largest set of gun deaths — 1 in 5 — were young men aged 15 to 34, killed in homicides. These men were most likely to die at the hands of other young men, often related to gang loyalties or other street violence. And the last notable group of similar deaths was the 1,700 women murdered per year, usually as the result of domestic violence. Far more people were killed in these ways than in mass-shooting incidents, but few of the popularly floated policies were tailored to serve them.


By the time we published our project, I didn’t believe in many of the interventions I’d heard politicians tout. I was still anti-gun, at least from the point of view of most gun owners, and I don’t want a gun in my home, as I think the risk outweighs the benefits. But I can’t endorse policies whose only selling point is that gun owners hate them. Policies that often seem as if they were drafted (https://twitter.com/LeahLibresco/status/914876399781076997) by people who have encountered guns only as a figure in a briefing book or an image on the news.

Bailey Guns
10-05-2017, 13:39
Heard about that on the radio yesterday...I think Rush was talking about it. One of those things that makes you say, "Holy crap!"

Mtneer
10-05-2017, 14:11
Even the New York Times revealed some truths:


Then there are the endless liberal errors of fact. There is no “gun-show loophole” per se; it’s a private-sale loophole, in other words the right to sell your own stuff. The civilian AR-15 is not a true “assault rifle,” and banning such rifles would have little effect on the overall murder rate, since most homicides are committed with handguns. It’s not true that 40 percent of gun owners buy without a background check; the real number is closer to one-fifth.

The National Rifle Association does not have Republican “balls in a money clip,” as Jimmy Kimmel put it the other night. The N.R.A. has donated a paltry $3,533,294 to all current members of Congress since 1998, according to The Washington Post, equivalent to about three months of Kimmel’s salary. The N.R.A. doesn’t need to buy influence: It’s powerful because it’s popular.

Nor will it do to follow the “Australian model” of a gun buyback program, which has shown poor results in the United States and makes little sense in a country awash with hundreds of millions of weapons. Keeping guns out of the hands of mentally ill people is a sensible goal, but due process is still owed to the potentially insane. Background checks for private gun sales are another fine idea, though its effects on homicides will be negligible: guns recovered by police are rarely in the hands of their legal owners, a 2016 study found.

In fact, the more closely one looks at what passes for “common sense” gun laws, the more feckless they appear. Americans who claim to be outraged by gun crimes should want to do something more than tinker at the margins of a legal regime that most of the developed world rightly considers nuts. They should want to change it fundamentally and permanently.

Though it was in an opinion piece calling for the repeal of 2A. [His $3.5 million figure is direct giving and does not include advertising in support.]

theGinsue
10-05-2017, 15:24
Two wonderful articles.

Thank you gentlemen for sharing these.

ray1970
10-05-2017, 17:46
Something seems fishy. Like I’m not getting the punch line of a horrible joke. Seems like their real conclusion is that gun laws aren’t working and it needs to be taken farther. How far? Who knows. 2nd amendment repeal and nation wide confiscation?

roberth
10-05-2017, 18:25
Two wonderful articles.

Thank you gentlemen for sharing these.

Yes, thank you!

Gman
10-09-2017, 17:24
Yes, thank you!
+1

It's difficult finding nuggets of truth in the MSM.

cstone
10-09-2017, 17:50
And as always, the comments are more interesting than the article. IMO, They give a more complete picture on the opinions of the WashPo readership.

If all you have is a hammer you will treat all problems as nails and hit them. If you are a legislator and all you can do is legislate you will treat all problems as legal issues and pass laws. If your reaction to any crisis is, We must do something, anything is better than nothing, may I suggest you go in the other room, lay down, take a nap. Your tantrum will end and you may eventually be able to come out and help the grownups deal with the real problems that have always existed and always will exist in the world. Expecting to end evil is unrealistic and sometimes the best we can do is stand where we are and resist in our small place in time.

Be safe.