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Aloha_Shooter
10-30-2017, 09:39
Excellent article that explains (better than I can) why I minimize my use of Google, Facebook, and Amazon: https://staltz.com/the-web-began-dying-in-2014-heres-how.html

Long article but well worth reading. Here are a few tidbits:


What has changed over the last 4 years is market share of traffic on the Web. It looks like nothing has changed, but GOOG and FB now have direct influence over 70%+ of internet traffic. Mobile internet traffic is now the majority of traffic worldwide (https://www.statista.com/statistics/306528/share-of-mobile-internet-traffic-in-global-regions/) and in Latin America alone, GOOG and FB services have had 60% of mobile traffic in 2015, growing to 70% by the end of 2016.


These are no longer the same companies as 4 years ago. GOOG is not anymore an internet company, it’s the knowledge internet company. FB is not an internet company, it’s the social internet company. They used to attempt to compete, and this competition kept the internet market diverse. Today, however, they seem mostly satisfied with their orthogonal dominance of parts of the Web, and we are losing diversity of choices. Which leads us to another part of the internet: e-commerce and AMZN.


The events and data above describe how three internet companies have acquired massive influence on the Web, but why does that imply the beginning of the Web’s death? To answer that, we need to reflect on what the Web is.
The original vision for the Web according to its creator, Tim Berners-Lee, was a space with multilateral publishing and consumption of information. It was a peer-to-peer vision with no dependency on a single party. Tim himself claims the Web is dying (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/mar/11/tim-berners-lee-web-inventor-save-internet): the Web he wanted and the Web he got are no longer the same.



After 2014, we started losing the benefits of the internet’s infrastructural and economical diversity. It is difficult to compete with AMZN’s and GOOG’s Cloud Services, which host a massive amount of sites for other businesses. Any website aspiring for significant traffic depends on Search and Social traffic.


What the Web will become under GOOG-FB-AMZN The following analysis is an extrapolation for the future, based on the current state of the Web and strategies made public by executives at GOOG-FB-AMZN.

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Internet Service Providers (ISPs) are probably soon going to dictate what traffic can or cannot arrive at people’s end devices. GOOG-FB-AMZN traffic would be the most common, due to their popularity among internet users. Because of this market demand, ISPs will likely provide cheap plans with access to GOOG-FB-AMZN, while offering more expensive plans with full internet access. It is already a reality in Portugal (https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/79770i/in_portugal_with_no_net_neutrality_internet/).

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GOOG, MSFT, FB, and AMZN are mimicking AAPL’s strategy of building brand loyalty around high-end devices. Through a process I call “Appleification”, they are (1) setting up walled gardens, (2) becoming hardware companies, and (3) marketing the design while designing for the market.

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There is a tendency at GOOG-FB-AMZN to bypass the Web which is motivated by user experience and efficient communication, not by an agenda to avoid browsers. In the knowledge internet and the commerce internet, being efficient to provide what users want is the goal. In the social internet, the goal is to provide an efficient channel for communication between people. This explains FB’s 10-year strategy with Augmented Reality (AR) and Virtual Reality (VR) as the next medium for social interactions through the internet. This strategy would also bypass the Web, proving how more natural social AR would be than social real-time texting in browsers.

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The internet will survive longer than the Web will. GOOG-FB-AMZN will still depend on submarine internet cables (the “Backbone (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_backbone)”), because it is a technical success. That said, many aspects of the internet will lose their relevance, and the underlying infrastructure could be optimized only for GOOG traffic, FB traffic, and AMZN traffic. It wouldn’t conceptually be anymore a “network of networks”, but just a “network of three networks”, the Trinet, if you will.

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On the Trinet, if you are permanently banned from GOOG or FB, you would have no alternative. You could even be restricted from creating a new account. As private businesses, GOOG, FB, and AMZN don’t need to guarantee you access to their networks. You do not have a legal right to an account in their servers, and as societies we aren’t demanding for these rights as vehemently as we could, to counter the strategies that tech giants are putting forward.

The Web and the internet have represented freedom: efficient and unsupervised exchange of information between people of all nations. In the Trinet, we will have even more vivid exchange of information between people, but we will sacrifice freedom. Many of us will wake up to the tragedy of this tradeoff only once it is reality.

newracer
10-30-2017, 10:29
What I find interesting, and irritating, is people are driving the change themselves. Many people think Facebook is the answer for any question. Rather than perform a simple internet search themselves they post a question on Facebook and wait for an answer. Even for the most simple of things like the hours that a store is open. Many forums I used to frequent have all but died because people would rather use Facebook.

Great-Kazoo
10-30-2017, 11:19
What I find interesting, and irritating, is people are driving the change themselves. Many people think Facebook is the answer for any question. Rather than perform a simple internet search themselves they post a question on Facebook and wait for an answer. Even for the most simple of things like the hours that a store is open. Many forums I used to frequent have all but died because people would rather use Facebook.

I see that especially among the reloading or firearm forums. I just started reloading X caliber, what's the best load?
No one even attempts to try load development or actually reference a manual.

Then there's the Colbert effect. Who need actual news when late night comedians tell them what they need to feel.

Scanker19
10-30-2017, 11:56
Deleting my Facebook 2 years ago was by far one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. It’s a weird creepy company. And most tech
Comanies are. It seems most things they do exist only to spy on you. Sounds a bit tin foily but why else would have if thses things exist?

KevDen2005
10-30-2017, 12:02
The internet is so full of crap these days. There was a time that you could do legitimate research and find articles and publications. Now you couldn't find porn.

BushMasterBoy
10-30-2017, 13:35
I'm just going to sit on my Facebook for awhile.

Justin
10-30-2017, 18:01
Internet Service Providers (ISPs) are probably soon going to dictate what traffic can or cannot arrive at people’s end devices. GOOG-FB-AMZN traffic would be the most common,...

Google and Facebook have had a number of projects, large and small, where they've stepped into the internet infrastructure space. The most obvious ones would be Google Fiber, and for Facebook, the additional undersea pipeline they just laid between the US and Europe.

They've also had a number of other infrastructure plans as well, incorporating things like cell repeaters on weather balloons and solar-powered aircraft capable of providing web connectivity.

If you think those network infrastructures won't be optimized for GAFA (Google, Apple, Facebook, Amazon) traffic, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Justin
10-30-2017, 18:02
Deleting my Facebook 2 years ago was by far one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. It’s a weird creepy company.

I guarantee they still have that data, and they're still correlating it with updated information from secondary sources, like the friends you hang out with.

Scanker19
10-30-2017, 18:06
I guarantee they still have that data, and they're still correlating it with updated information from secondary sources, like the friends you hang out with.

Oh no doubt dude. I meant deleting it as a way of just not flipping through endless memes and other Facebook shit. I have apple devices and I’m sure they collect so much about me. I have a gmail, and sometimes those sync up. If I schedule a hotel it puts it on my calendar on my iPhone and even saves the number to the escort servi....I mean the restaurant. Yeah that’s the ticket.

TheGrey
10-30-2017, 18:52
I've actually received work through my social media platforms. Facebook is a bit more than just memes and political rants.

That was an interesting (and somewhat scary) article. Lots of food for thought.

TEAMRICO
10-30-2017, 19:06
Oh no doubt dude. I meant deleting it as a way of just not flipping through endless memes and other Facebook shit. I have apple devices and I’m sure they collect so much about me. I have a gmail, and sometimes those sync up. If I schedule a hotel it puts it on my calendar on my iPhone and even saves the number to the escort servi....I mean the restaurant. Yeah that’s the ticket.

Hahahaha nice.

Gman
10-30-2017, 19:07
What's Facebook?

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brutal
10-30-2017, 23:49
What I find interesting, and irritating, is people are driving the change themselves. Many people think Facebook is the answer for any question. Rather than perform a simple internet search themselves they post a question on Facebook and wait for an answer. Even for the most simple of things like the hours that a store is open. Many forums I used to frequent have all but died because people would rather use Facebook.

The stupid questions I receive from other shoppers regarding prior Amazon purchased items is astounding.

ray1970
10-31-2017, 07:20
Now you couldn't find porn.

You obviously aren’t doing something right. I can’t even search for something innocent without something dirty popping up.

Jeffrey Lebowski
10-31-2017, 08:36
You obviously aren’t doing something right. I can’t even search for something innocent without something dirty popping up.

Well, Ray, if google feeds you based on past preferences...[Coffee]

J/K [Beer]....maybe? [Dunno]

OtterbatHellcat
10-31-2017, 12:40
*snickering*

Gman
10-31-2017, 14:04
The Fox Sci-Fi TV show The Orville had an episode named "Majority Rule" that pointed a light on the type of society that an under-informed populace can create essentially using 'likes' and a web video 'feed'.