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Batteriesnare
10-18-2009, 22:17
Found this, thought I'd pass it on. And yes, I forgot the 'n' within the title.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i5/batteriesnare/PreparationWin.jpg
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DeusExMachina
10-18-2009, 22:42
Is that a pump pistol grip shotgun with a magazine? Doesn't look like a Saiga..Not that Saigas are pump.
Batteriesnare
10-18-2009, 22:45
Is that a pump pistol grip shotgun with a magazine? Doesn't look like a Saiga..Not that Saigas are pump.

I'm not sure what it is. My first thought was Kel Tec, but I don't think they make shotguns. If it was a reputable company (good product) I wouldn't mind picking one up!
BigMat
10-18-2009, 22:48
My Gun Senses are tingling and I'm thinkin it's a toy.

In which case, pray that there are no zombies. If that was a real shot gun, win indeed. Good idea though, time for me do finally do something to this houses decor, the wife has to understand safety.
Batteriesnare
10-18-2009, 23:01
I know! Put one right next to the fire extinguisher!
GreenScoutII
10-18-2009, 23:08
Can't go wrong with the good old Remington 870. Kills zombies and rattlesnakes dead. Even zombie rattlesnakes...[LOL]
DeusExMachina
10-18-2009, 23:23
It makes me wonder if you could pistol grip a Saiga...
DOC
10-19-2009, 01:02
It makes me wonder if you could pistol grip a Saiga...
Yes you can.

The op I think its a toy. But what a good idea.
ColoEnthusiast
10-19-2009, 01:15
Yes the shotgun in the case is a toy. My middle son has one. It is a plastic airsoft gun painted black. Great prop though, most would never know for sure...
The shotgun shells and safety glasses look real though, so the case would be useful during zombie attacks after all.[AR15]
bjl913
10-19-2009, 04:16
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4864758.pdf
http://www.impactguns.com/store/KN-06002.html
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=94944 - bahahahhah! tacticool!

box mag fed pump gun!

Other than the pdf, and i have had little luck finding much on it, there was a company called knoxx that made them(with 2 x's, not a typo). Lemme know what you guys find. I just did a quick 30 second search...
hobowh
10-19-2009, 17:38
Definatly inventive
sniper7
10-19-2009, 17:57
the gun is full of fail unfortunately. tube fed shotgun with a box mag?[Bang]
plus it is an NFA since it is a SBS (if it were real).

and the ultimate fail is the damn 2 3/4 bird shot included....WTF is that going to do to a fucking zombie!!!!![Rant1]

I think I need to spend a half hour and make something you can druel over[Muaha]
Irving
10-19-2009, 18:01
It's a conversion to a box mag, you'd still need the old tube mag to guide the pump handle wouldn't you?
ColoEnthusiast
10-19-2009, 19:24
Once again....
The shotgun in the picture is an airsoft shotgun painted black. They can be purchased at Big5.

IT IS NOT THE KNOXX CONVERSION

Anybody know off-hand if there is a drum mag available for the Knoxx conversion? Now that would rock..
MichiganMilitia
10-19-2009, 21:06
from reading about the "zombie killer" on the calguns forums, it sounded like the guy was waiting for a 10 rd drum mag that he had ordered.
Irving
10-19-2009, 21:21
Once again....
The shotgun in the picture is an airsoft shotgun painted black. They can be purchased at Big5.

IT IS NOT THE KNOXX CONVERSION



We know, but it doesn't matter, because he is talking about the very concept of a magazine pump action with a mag tube still on it, but I don't think he realized that a conversion exists. I know I didn't realize it because I was trying to figure out how to make one.
ColoEnthusiast
10-19-2009, 22:41
Guess I misunderstood, thought he was saying the one on display was the conversion.
I do like the idea of mag fed and have seen some with drums on youtube before. Awesome firepower!!
Marlin
10-20-2009, 05:50
Besides, Birdshot will work just fine... All you have to do is a head shot and collapse the skull..
MichiganMilitia
10-20-2009, 08:56
When you're dealing with Zombies, I wouldn't trust anything BUT a headshot.
Irving
10-20-2009, 10:31
Birdshot should be sufficient to knock out teeth right? No one would care about Zombie if they just gummed on you.
Batteriesnare
10-20-2009, 10:45
I dunno, it might get annoying after a while, but then I guess they'd be close enough for an effective follow up shot.
bjl913
10-21-2009, 03:07
I dunno, it might get annoying after a while, but then I guess they'd be close enough for an effective follow up shot.


Thats when you bust out the Taurus Judge right?
Batteriesnare
10-21-2009, 13:22
Thats when you bust out the Taurus Judge right?

I suppose, I'm not a big fan of the Judge tho. Cool concept, just not for me.
Irving
10-21-2009, 13:38
I think the judge would be awesome if it was smooth bore only. Threading the barrel so it can shoot .45 kind of ruins the whole point of the dual ammo capability. IMO.
Batteriesnare
10-21-2009, 22:42
Yeah, that was one of my complaints against it. I dunno, also doesn't seem like a very concealable gun, so I'm kinda left without a use for it.
DOC
10-21-2009, 22:55
The rifleings are there for legal reasons only. Otherwise it would be a shotgun and that makes liberals sad:(
Batteriesnare
10-21-2009, 23:13
Really? I didn't know that. Damn liberals.
ColoEnthusiast
10-21-2009, 23:49
Liberals...
They constantly assault our rights and try to take guns out of the hands of responsible people.
Funny thing is, if the SHTF, who will they be hiding behind? Other vegans who are also afraid to defend themselves? Funny and sad all at once.
DOC
10-22-2009, 00:24
They won't be hiding behind me. I'll be the one hunting them trying to get all my stuff back.
Daniel_187
10-22-2009, 08:57
Amen brother
Irving
10-22-2009, 10:04
The rifleings are there for legal reasons only. Otherwise it would be a shotgun and that makes liberals sad:(

What is the law concerning smooth bore again? I thought it had to be over a certain size? Probably not.
GreenScoutII
10-22-2009, 10:10
I'm pretty sure a smoothbore pistol is an NFA item. The very existence of such a thing in private hands makes liberals very sad..http://www.co-ar15.com/forums/images/icons/icon9.gif

Everybody knows a smoothbore pistol is at least as powerful and dangerous as the bomb which destoryed Hiroshima. Just ask your nearest liberal....
Batteriesnare
10-22-2009, 10:31
I'm sure it is a NFA item, but I don't understand why... Wouldn't that make it less accurate, unless you're shooting bird/buck shot?
DOC
10-22-2009, 13:25
While I'm not planning on taking care of anyone but me and my family during a SHTF situation. I don't see the need to help those so dependent on a government that they can't shit with out permission.
I'm going to have my own problems to worry about.

I'm not sure about the NFA (but a quick google search would clear it up) but no pistols can be had with a smooth bore. Otherwise its considered a short barreled shotgun or AOW. But its been about 6 years since I read the whole NFA law. So I might wrong.
rhineoshott
10-26-2009, 12:05
I just came across this made by remington. It's a .223 rifle. looks like a pump shotgun with a box mag.

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire_rifles/model_7615_tactical.asp
DOC
10-26-2009, 12:50
That gives me an idea.
Batteriesnare
10-26-2009, 13:20
Cool idea, don't think it will catch on though, especially in .223. The mag release is so far forward of the grip, I don't think there is any way it could be actuated with one hand during a reload. It also has a very short sight radius, and its a pump. Put it in 12ga and I'm interested, but .223, I'll just buy an AR.
rhineoshott
10-26-2009, 17:06
Cool idea, don't think it will catch on though, especially in .223. The mag release is so far forward of the grip, I don't think there is any way it could be actuated with one hand during a reload. It also has a very short sight radius, and its a pump. Put it in 12ga and I'm interested, but .223, I'll just buy an AR.

My thoughts exactly. I don't see why I should pump a forend between rounds for a .223.
GreenScoutII
10-26-2009, 17:24
Yeah, that Remington looks like the bastard offspring of an 870 pump action shotgun and an AR-15...I don't see the appeal. The only thing I can figure is if a guy lived in an area where "assault rifles" are banned, and was just dying to have something which looks "tactical", he might buy this gun. Other than that, I don't get it. Especially when the MSRP is well within what a guy could buy an AR for.
Irving
10-26-2009, 17:28
From what the ad said, it seemed like they were trying to market it as the ultimate reliable survival gun because of the reliability of a pump gun. That's my take on it I guess.