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Passed CCNA this morning. Super stoked, mainly because it validates barely seeing my kids for the last 3 months (but hearing them downstairs while I did labs and read odiously boring Odom text).
Waiting for a slot to open on our NOC team. Or maybe just add it to the LinkedIn profile and keep low crawling towards IT Security work. Probably won't go for CCNP unless operational networking is enjoyable.
Anyone else done anything boring for a paper trinket recently?
I would congratulate you but I don't know what CCNA is.
I would congratulate you but I don't know what CCNA is.
Lol. You're probably a better man for it. It's a cert where 15 years ago jackasses memorized 500 pages of info and now they memorize double to triple that to let Cisco stroke itself on how awesome it is.
Passed CCNA this morning. Super stoked, mainly because it validates barely seeing my kids for the last 3 months (but hearing them downstairs while I did labs and read odiously boring Odom text).
Waiting for a slot to open on our NOC team. Or maybe just add it to the LinkedIn profile and keep low crawling towards IT Security work. Probably won't go for CCNP unless operational networking is enjoyable.
Anyone else done anything boring for a paper trinket recently?
CONGRATS!
At least you're working on a volunteer basis.
As an OEM partner, we're required to pass their (IBM) certs for tons of different products to maintain partner status. They're all like that too, our network guys gotta have their certs, Security, NetApp, MS, etc. ad nauseum. Sure, part of it is customer sat within the partner channel, but part is also about the $$$ they get to charge for classes and/or testing.
That said, I don't have to pay anything, and frankly, the company gets most of it all free through distributor or mfr programs/promos/marketing dollars, etc. I do get rewarded with "utilization" hours that helps maintain my quota so I get my shitty little bonus for being a good corporate wang.
Congrats!
LOL I was one of those jackasses, and while it seems more recent in my head, it probably really was right around 15 years ago. Dang, how did I get so old so fast...?
Congrats!
I had to study it when I was in securities/finance sector (as well as many other stuffs/sector). :(
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GilpinGuy
11-21-2017, 02:31
Congrats! Like Ray, I have no clue what any of those acronyms mean. But [Beer] Obviously its important to you.
Edit: I do know what IT means. [hammer]
Ray and Gilpin -- CCNA is the Cisco Certified Network Associate. Basically means I should be able to walk into a networking situation and not be completely confused as to what the analysts/engineers are talking about and/or be able to set up, troubleshoot, etc. My old company's networking team wouldn't even interview someone if they didn't have it. Others are more lenient.
Brian -- It's been fun though, right? Was talking with one of the networking engineers w/ CCNP at work, before I took CCENT a few months ago, and he was telling me how much more is expected now vs when he took it. Was definitely like drinking from a fire hose. I look forward to getting onto a team where the information can really gel and become 2nd nature. In the last 6 months, any time I had to deal with the NOC I'd be pumping them for info, asking them to walk me through the configuration changes they were making, theory behind it, etc. Definitely helped.
Don't want to be a cert chaser, but WGU is competency based so there are certain ones I need to get for graduation. Post-graduation, I'm thinking I'll focus on CEH and then CISSP.
cfortune
11-21-2017, 07:32
Congrats! Networking is fun. Hence me procrastinating getting ready for work right now
Certs are stressful though. I'm heading to a Juniper conference in a few weeks that has free certification testing there. I'll be hitting the books pretty hard until then.
Congratulations!! Keep plugging away.
Congrats.
Dating myself, but I got mine back when it was MSCNA/E... and you had to go to an actual class room to get it. Haven't done it for a long time now so its all irrelevant now.
Congratulations!
Hopefully that hard work will translate into the recogition that it deserves.
As a matter of fact, I recently received my certification as a CFI-FTER; a Certified Forensic Interviewer- Forensic Testimony Evidence Recovery. Whew.
Congratulations!
Hopefully that hard work will translate into the recogition that it deserves.
As a matter of fact, I recently received my certification as a CFI-FTER; a Certified Forensic Interviewer- Forensic Testimony Evidence Recovery. Whew.
Congrats on your own new cert!
68Charger
11-21-2017, 13:43
Congrats, last one of those I got was for a Cisco IOS-XR specialist. never did get my CCNP, but I still have a CCNA.
Trying to figure out how to wedge studying for CCIE-SP into my schedule (been working for a service provider for 20 years on Cisco Gear- written should just require requisite studying)
The practical exam for CCIEs is a bit daunting... but studying for 1 difficult exam seems more rewarding than for 3 moderately difficult ones
Batteriesnare
11-21-2017, 14:11
Congrats dude!
Enjoy that new cert smell while it lasts. ;-)
Congrats!
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buckshotbarlow
11-21-2017, 16:54
Now you can go learn a real networking vendor like Mellanox or Arista...I kick Cisco's ass with these 2 vendors, and I don't have to deal with the Cisco asshats....
trlcavscout
11-21-2017, 18:01
Congrats! My CCNA expires next september, but so far it hasnt helped me much so i probably wont renew or upgrade. Still doing basic generic small business work, but thats because i dont want to drive everyday.
68Charger
11-21-2017, 19:55
Now you can go learn a real networking vendor like Mellanox or Arista...I kick Cisco's ass with these 2 vendors, and I don't have to deal with the Cisco asshats....
Arista has some great stuff, haven't worked with Mellanox...
I work for a big telco, so Cisco kisses our ass... most of the asshats work for us.
gnihcraes
11-21-2017, 20:27
Congrats. I have a 20 year old ICND before it became ICND1 or whatever. Gave up on paper certificates. In some ways it hurts the job prospects, in other ways it doesn't.
cfortune
11-21-2017, 21:07
Arista has some great stuff, haven't worked with Mellanox...
I work for a big telco, so Cisco kisses our ass... most of the asshats work for us.
lol Arista. The company that ripped off Cisco so bad that Cisco bugs were found in "their" code.
buckshotbarlow
11-21-2017, 21:07
Arista has some great stuff, haven't worked with Mellanox...
I work for a big telco, so Cisco kisses our ass... most of the asshats work for us.
I don't know, every cisco exec that i've ever had to deal with is pure asshattage...Mellanox for deep learning, paired with their nics, nothing comes close...
OtterbatHellcat
11-21-2017, 22:17
Anyone else done anything boring for a paper trinket recently?
Yeah....had to test for EVT certs back in June, and again last month. Passed four re-certs in June, and one new test in Oct.
It doesn't mean shit if you can't actually fix a problem, but it "looks good" to other folks if you have the paper with the scrilly scrolly shit around the edges of it.
It's still an accomplishment however, I haven't liked doing it every five years for the last 30 years but it does show that you could manage the paper test. ASE is more of the same.
Anyone else done anything boring for a paper trinket recently?
Well I did pass my HAM Tech & General tests a while back, and have yet to really get involved on the air... I'm betting I'm not alone there. :D
As for the CCNA, etc. tests - while I do think some people tend to collect them "for fun," I've found they can be useful even if you don't use the skills every day. Maybe you won't end up working on routers full-time, but if you're in IT at all or work with other network engineers, etc. then it goes a long way if you can hold your own and speak at least the basics of the language. I also found SQL/DB classes to be pretty helpful too, even more now with the focus on big data and metrics/analytics.
cableguy11
11-22-2017, 08:28
Awesome, congrats. So you IT guys have to re-take the cert test every so often? No continuing education hours or anything like that? They just send us to classes or in house training for a minimum amount of hours per 3 years and my cert gets renewed...NERC certification, and I am in the energy/power industry. I am contemplating a switch in career path but staying in the same industry.
Awesome, congrats. So you IT guys have to re-take the cert test every so often? No continuing education hours or anything like that? They just send us to classes or in house training for a minimum amount of hours per 3 years and my cert gets renewed...NERC certification, and I am in the energy/power industry. I am contemplating a switch in career path but staying in the same industry.
Depends on the vendor... CompTIA allows the continuing education method. Cisco recently introduced it for their Expert certs in lieu of a written exam, but have not yet extended to Professional or Associate tracks.
Cisco cert,mcse,and Oracle dba use to be hottest certs during 99-01.
Yes, cisco was the biggest company (mkt cap) during that time.
Seamonkey
11-22-2017, 11:17
Congratz on the CCNA! I assume R/S?
I'm CCNP R/S and while the material didn't seem very relevant for my TSC job at the time it has proven useful in my current role in a core networking position. I work in a multivendor environment so we only use open protocols. I'm working on the JNCIP-SP and it's been a hoot.
I recommend you set a goal of one cert a year as a life long education process. Keeps you learning, keeps the material fresh and always looks good on a resume or at review time. I'd skip the CompTia Net+ unless it's a job requirement. The official book I had was complete with typos, sentences chopped in half and I found contradicting information pages apart. Didn't do anything for my job search at the time.
Cisco is the gold standard for most IT jobs due mainly to ignorant/lazy hiring managers and HR people. Unless you can get your resume in front of the hiring manager you have to deal with HR. HR goes off check marks. Hiring manager slops CCNA in the title and that's what HR looks for. Doesn't matter if it's even relevant to the job. How many job postings have you come across where they slop "CCNA/CCNP/CCIE preferred" for a $50K job. Do you really expect to land a CCIE for that?
Explore Juniper, Sec+, some scripting, keep the journey going!
Congratz on the CCNA! I assume R/S?
I'm CCNP R/S and while the material didn't seem very relevant for my TSC job at the time it has proven useful in my current role in a core networking position. I work in a multivendor environment so we only use open protocols. I'm working on the JNCIP-SP and it's been a hoot.
I recommend you set a goal of one cert a year as a life long education process. Keeps you learning, keeps the material fresh and always looks good on a resume or at review time. I'd skip the CompTia Net+ unless it's a job requirement. The official book I had was complete with typos, sentences chopped in half and I found contradicting information pages apart. Didn't do anything for my job search at the time.
Cisco is the gold standard for most IT jobs due mainly to ignorant/lazy hiring managers and HR people. Unless you can get your resume in front of the hiring manager you have to deal with HR. HR goes off check marks. Hiring manager slops CCNA in the title and that's what HR looks for. Doesn't matter if it's even relevant to the job. How many job postings have you come across where they slop "CCNA/CCNP/CCIE preferred" for a $50K job. Do you really expect to land a CCIE for that?
Explore Juniper, Sec+, some scripting, keep the journey going!
Got A+, Net+, and Sec+ as part of my Associates. BS has involved Linux+, CCENT, and CCNA. Upcoming is CCNA Security. Linux+ renewed my A+ and CCNA will have renewed my Net+. However, I'm not going to pay the CEU costs for Net+ since CCNA Security will cover Sec+ and it will be expiring in May, and my job only requires Sec+.
If I stick in a networking track, I'll likely go for a Juniper cert. While I understand the idea of people having pet favorites or even objectively better vendors, the market ultimately will demand what it demands. A quick search on dice for Arista, Cisco, and Juniper reveal Cisco in preference followed by Juniper, and Arista only being mentioned in positions not applicable to my career path at this point.
68Charger
11-22-2017, 12:01
lol Arista. The company that ripped off Cisco so bad that Cisco bugs were found in "their" code.
yeah, Juniper and Cisco have some serious incest going on with some product lines and code, too...
Arista focused on some niche that Cisco wasn't really willing to work at... Had them in our lab- but we still don't use them- but lots of our customers do...
Lately, I'd say that one could do WAY better than copying Cisco code... we haven't had an upgrade without a rollback for some time now... it's getting old.
cfortune
11-22-2017, 12:08
yeah, Juniper and Cisco have some serious incest going on with some product lines and code, too...
Arista focused on some niche that Cisco wasn't really willing to work at... we still don't use them- but lots of our customers do...Know how I know you don't know Juniper?
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68Charger
11-22-2017, 12:45
Know how I know you don't know Juniper?
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Please tell me where I said I know Juniper... I was referring to the jumping of engineers and developers between companies.
For example- does the name David Ward mean anything to you?
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[LOL]
cfortune
11-22-2017, 13:51
Please tell me where I said I know Juniper... I was referring to the jumping of engineers and developers between companies.
For example- does the name David Ward mean anything to you?I didn't say you did ;). I was just pointing out that buckshot's comment on learning a "real" vendor is comical considering Arista lost a patent infringement suit to Cisco. I also see that I incorrectly quoted you and not him initially. Apologies.
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68Charger
11-22-2017, 13:54
I didn't say you did ;). I was just pointing out that buckshot's comment on learning a "real" vendor is comical considering Arista lost a patent infringement suit to Cisco. I also see that I incorrectly quoted you and not him initially. Apologies.
No worries- but what are these guys going to do with all the extra popcorn now? [Beer]
Chevy vs Ford
AMD vs Intel
JNPR vs CSCO
Network appliance vs emc.
Novartis vs GlaxoSmithKline
Popcorn time..... [Pop]
Seamonkey
11-22-2017, 14:42
Chevy vs Ford
AMD vs Intel
JNPR vs CSCO
Network appliance vs emc.
Novartis vs GlaxoSmithKline
Popcorn time..... [Pop]
I've become a junos snob... as for Cisco...which ver?
ALU aka Nokia [pileoshit]
I've become a junos snob... as for Cisco...which ver?
ALU aka Nokia [pileoshit]
Combover John likes anything Cisco, even those Linksys. :)
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Congratulations!!!
If you want to dig into some more security check out https://securityonion.net/ I'd get the beta version using Elastic (ELK) instead of ELSA. Set it up on a VM or small server and have enterprise tools monitoring your home network. :)
Congratulations!!!
If you want to dig into some more security check out https://securityonion.net/ I'd get the beta version using Elastic (ELK) instead of ELSA. Set it up on a VM or small server and have enterprise tools monitoring your home network. :)
Cool. Will check it out.
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