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Robb
12-30-2017, 13:17
My kid just bought a WW1 Winchester 1917 30.06 that somewhere along the line had the floorplate welded to the triggerguard at the latch. It's a nasty little spotweld, that's it.
I know nothing about welding. Can this weld be sweated off, melted off without ruining the original part? Does the weld material have a lower melting point than the floorplate steel?
I'm wondering if the floorplate can be saved. It's a numbered part and matches the receiver is the only reason I care. Either way, no big deal as the gun is a huge mix-master. If anyone wanted to tackle it, let me know, I don't want to get too financially invested in it, but if it's possible, let me know.
Thanks.

newracer
12-30-2017, 13:21
If it is a weld it will need to be cut and ground off. It will likely be harder than the surrounding material.


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Robb
12-30-2017, 13:40
newracer,
that answers that. Thanks for the response

BPTactical
12-30-2017, 14:11
Soldering: a non fusion method of joining metals with a filler material with a melting point lower than the metals being joined.
Welding: fusing the parent metals together by melting the parent metals, sometimes a filler material similar to the parent metals is utilized.

Key words: non fusion vs fusion.

Had the floor plate been soldered the filler material could be melted, parting the two components and allowing them to be cleaned up and left relatively intact.
With the weld however the parent metals are fused, as mentioned the joint will have to be cut and the damage repaired by welding and reshaping.
If the weld was done by torch or TIG it will likely be similar in hardness to the parent metal and usually workable with a good file. If it was done by Arc or MIG it will be harder than woodpecker lips and grinding is typically the only method of reshaping.

SideShow Bob
12-31-2017, 09:18
Hey Bert, you forgot about brazing, although it is similar to soldering, it is harder to remove with out damaging the joined pieces.

rondog
12-31-2017, 21:37
If you're interested, I know a guy that specializes in restoring military rifles.

BPTactical
12-31-2017, 22:47
Hey Bert, you forgot about brazing, although it is similar to soldering, it is harder to remove with out damaging the joined pieces.

Didn't forget about anything Bobbo.
Technically brazing is soldering, just with a higher melting point filler.

zteknik
12-31-2017, 23:50
If it's what I think it is- I have one that's an Eddystone. I believe I might have an extra floorplate and possibly the triggerguard. Give me a few days and I'll poke through my parts bin.

Robb
12-31-2017, 23:56
Rondog, is it Chuck in Denver? It's time I met that guy.
Zteknik, it's okay, I already ordered the parts. Thanks a ton though, that's generous and I really appreciate it!

zteknik
01-01-2018, 00:58
No worries. Least I can do. It gives me an excuse to go through some of my stuff and at least see what I have.[Coffee]

Robb
01-01-2018, 15:10
Sent you a PM but if you have any Winnie parts you want to dump, let me know.