New Gun Laws for 2018 (California)

[jslo]

Seems there are at least a few here that travel to California from time to time. Not posting any particular link because I can't find any 2 that jive completely. Examples though include:
Face to face sales through licensed dealers only
No ammo brought into California from out of state
BGC for ammo purchases
Permit, at some point (2019) will be required

Sorry not to post any links but the info doesn't seem, that I've seen, to have a general consensus.

[Great-Kazoo]

BGC & permit for ammo starts in 19

No Ammo from OOS if for internet sales, prohibiting ammo to be sent to ones address. ALL ammo must be transferred through a FFL

Technically any firearm sale in CA has required a BGC along with 10 day wait. Unless you're doing a family transfer, that can be done on the CADOJ website.

Supposedly the ammo sales through FFL has been challenged and currently in limbo. With some stores not selling till there's written clarification regarding exact wording.
LE's are once again exempt. Which allows one to send ammo to X people behind the Great Wall of Aztlan .
It's cheaper for me to send them a 550 and or Single Stage with components than ship ammo. Less hassle too.

Here's some interesting reading. Once again CA welcomes Illegals in yet puts more restrictions on Legal Citizens.
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/regs/bof-1021.pdf


Here's what's holding up ammo sales
https://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/agweb/pdfs/firearms/regs/proposed-text-vendor-licensing.pdf


California Code of RegulationsTitle 11, Division 5Chapter 10.

The annual application fee for an ammunition vendor license (initial and renewal) is $198


Pursuant to Penal Code section 30350, ammunition shall not be displayed for sale or transfer in amanner that allows that ammunition to be accessible to a purchaser or transferee without theassistance of the vendor or an employee of the vendor. Ammunition displayed in a shopping areaopen to the public is not considered “accessible” provided it is in a locked container (e.g. displaycase, cabinet, cage).

[Ronin13]

Just another reason to rename that state "Commiefornia".

[Eric P]

How would one prove ammo manufacture date? I have never seen date stamp on the cardboard boxes.

[hatidua]

How would one prove ammo manufacture date? I have never seen date stamp on the cardboard boxes.

lot #

[lurchnp81]

Seems there are at least a few here that travel to California from time to time. Not posting any particular link because I can't find any 2 that jive completely. Examples though include:
Face to face sales through licensed dealers only
No ammo brought into California from out of state
BGC for ammo purchases
Permit, at some point (2019) will be required

Sorry not to post any links but the info doesn't seem, that I've seen, to have a general consensus.

Only residents are barred from bringing in ammo from out of state. If you as a non CA resident is traveling to CA you may bring ammo in...you just can’t “transfer” it it to another person without going through an ffl

[lurchnp81]

Wording of the PC:

30314. (a) Commencing January 1, 2018, a resident of this state shall not bring or transport into this state any ammunition that he or she purchased or otherwise obtained from outside of this state unless he or she first has that ammunition delivered to a licensed ammunition vendor for delivery to that resident pursuant to the procedures set forth in Section 30312.

[Zundfolge]

My guess is that the reloading subforum on CalGuns will quadruple in traffic in the next few months.

[CS1983]

No impact to reloading components then? Or will sellers interpret that in just to do the devil’s work for him?

[Eric P]

lot #

Save boxes and reload...the boxes out of state.

[Rucker61]

Save boxes and reload...the boxes out of state.

Or just load all the new ammo into flip-top plastic boxes and claim it was reloaded.

[hurley842002]

Not necessarily relevant directly to this thread, but if this pipe dream ever happened, I would certainly have a renewed interest in moving to CA, as there may be hope of "New California" ditching the bogus gun laws.

http://www.kmov.com/story/37274463/new-california-founders-want-independence-from-rest-of-state

[Zundfolge]

http://www.kmov.com/story/37274463/new-california-founders-want-independence-from-rest-of-state

I want to believe.

[hurley842002]

I want to believe.

As do I, although I won't hold my breath. New California residents would have a decent shot at becoming a purple, if not red state, and living in San Bernardino county would put me in my wife's families back yard. Again, this is all likely wishful thinking, but I can dream.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

Where is the mag law? Is that still under a hold from on the Judges order?

[CoGirl303]

How do they propose to stop people from buying ammo in other states and bringing it into California?

[DDT951]

How do they propose to stop people from buying ammo in other states and bringing it into California?

Probably about like other gun laws are enforced.

As an example, how does NFA get enforced with an SBR? You can easily buy parts, but it is not legal to have an unregistered SBR.

It is possible that someone could go a very long time with an legal/unregistered SBR.

Or Colorado mags. How is that being enforced?

Basically it seems someone get in trouble for something else and then contraband is discovered.

I think it is more happenstance that people get caught with some of this and then additional charges added.

Laws like this only affect people who decide to follow them.

[FromMyColdDeadHand]

So you could run into a situation where the cops are running a checkpoint at the NEV-CA border, and they let illegals through, but arrest citizens with ammo.

F'd up world.

[Great-Kazoo]

So you could run into a situation where the cops are running a checkpoint at the NEV-CA border, and they let illegals through, but arrest citizens with ammo.

F'd up world.

No you would not . First rule of road blocks & checkpoints is ... NO YOU MAY NOT SEARCH MY VEHICLE, OFFICER.

[Gman]

They'll have gun powder sniffing dogs at the checkpoints where they ask if you're bringing any fruit or plants into the state.[Coffee]

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[Eric P]

No you would not . First rule of road blocks & checkpoints is ... NO YOU MAY NOT SEARCH MY VEHICLE, OFFICER.


https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsUkW8Lp3NyA&ved=0ahUKEwikl6eQ2enYAhVWz2MKHV4wBWAQwqsBCCswAA&usg=AOvVaw1Hxq3ktfW7K5v14-o14vuw

[00tec]

https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DsUkW8Lp3NyA&ved=0ahUKEwikl6eQ2enYAhVWz2MKHV4wBWAQwqsBCCswAA&usg=AOvVaw1Hxq3ktfW7K5v14-o14vuw

Whatever that video link is, my browser doesnt like it. I am getting blocked.

[Eric P]

https://youtu.be/sUkW8Lp3NyA

Try this instead

[00tec]

https://youtu.be/sUkW8Lp3NyA

Try this instead

That one worked.

They wouldnt like me at those checkpoints.