Dykem steel blue layout fluid

[rondog]

Does anybody know where I can buy some of this? Some place that has it in stock? Been wanting some for years.

[Grant H.]

https://www.amazon.com/Dykem-80300-Steel-Layout-Brush/dp/B0018ACR6G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1515884763&sr=8-2&keywords=dykem

I buy a bottle about once a year...

[gnihcraes]

^^ amazon. Where i buy mine.

Ace hardware might have some.

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[wctriumph]

It comes in red too!

[rondog]

https://www.amazon.com/Dykem-80300-Steel-Layout-Brush/dp/B0018ACR6G/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1515884763&sr=8-2&keywords=dykem

I buy a bottle about once a year...

Found that, would prefer local if possible.

[rondog]

^^ amazon. Where i buy mine.

Ace hardware might have some.

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Hmm, Ace - I always forget about Ace....thanks!

[KS63]

You need something layed and wanted the whole bottle or just a part done?

[NFATrustGuy]

I bought some years ago when I started reloading. Ran into situations at the indoor range re: whose brass belonged to whom. I started marking mine with blue or red to make it easy. Also helped me pick out my 9mm versus all the danged .380. I purchased mine via Amazon.

[DFBrews]

I use a combination of sharpie and soot from a candle when fitting precision parts

[def90]

McGuckins in Boulder has it


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[Ah Pook]

McGuckins in Boulder has it


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That's where I got mine.

[NeedMoreAmmo]

I got my last bottle from Enco, which is now MSC. As mentioned, a sharpie works pretty well and leaves a thinner coat. The candle soot is even thinner, for lapping Garand bolts and whatnot.

[jslo]

Pretty sure Grainger has it.

[rondog]

You need something layed and wanted the whole bottle or just a part done?

Nah, just want to add a bottle to the rest of the crap in my garage. Comes in handy once in awhile. Used to use it a lot in machine shops, long long ago. I'm modifying some bullet molds and I think this would be handy.

[Irving]

Found that, would prefer local if possible.

This seems to be your go to answer for a lot of things. May I suggest you add this to your shopping list while you're at Ace? :D
http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12674389&KPID=989432&cid=CAPLA:G:Shopping_-_Mailboxes/Weathervanes&pla=pla_989432&k_clickid=ddb88f67-63db-4eb6-a935-e6fe4efd2a26&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-ebSBRC8ARIsAGuxJIpWqZrR7jhUruAx-qG95kxglEdOvpt3iv834f_9rZmmPBs1LmYdj0waAhckEALw_wc B

[rondog]

This seems to be your go to answer for a lot of things. May I suggest you add this to your shopping list while you're at Ace? :D
http://www.acehardware.com/product/index.jsp?productId=12674389&KPID=989432&cid=CAPLA:G:Shopping_-_Mailboxes/Weathervanes&pla=pla_989432&k_clickid=ddb88f67-63db-4eb6-a935-e6fe4efd2a26&gclid=Cj0KCQiA-ebSBRC8ARIsAGuxJIpWqZrR7jhUruAx-qG95kxglEdOvpt3iv834f_9rZmmPBs1LmYdj0waAhckEALw_wc B

Hey, I like buying local! Better chance of getting the right thing, in the right condition. AFA the mailbox, I need black or I'd get a letter from the HOA.....

[theGinsue]

Forgive my ignorance, but what is this product used for? I've read the comments above and still don't understand what it is/does.

[SouthPaw]

Forgive my ignorance, but what is this product used for? I've read the comments above and still don't understand what it is/does.

I was reading through this entire thread hoping to find the answer as well.

[Gman]

From the Amazon link earlier in the thread;

Product description
The Dykem 80300 Steel Blue layout fluid is used to coat metal to provide a glare-free, uniform color so scribes appear clear and sharp. This product is a transparent, blue stain. It can also be used on other surfaces to reveal defects or pinholes, or view gear tooth contact pattern. It provides a thin film without cracking or chipping and dries in minutes for convenience. It comes in a bottle containing 4 oz. of fluid. The bottle has a brush in the lid that can be used to apply the solution.

Scribing a mark on metal normally has very little contrast (usually steel which is silver on silver). This product colors the surface metal blue so a scribe mark on the metal leaves a sharp, clean line (the color of the underlying metal). For the use in gear contact, the color will wear where the teeth engage each other.

[Tinelement]

It’s a thin semi transparent paint that you spray or brush on to metal for marking out patterns. When you scratch it with a scribe it leaves a crisp clean mark so you can see your lay outs clearly. You’ll see it used a lot in gun smithing also.

Fastenal usually carries it as well. I would avoid the spray cans of Dykem. I swear half way through a can it just stops spraying. Don’t think I’ve ever gotten through a whole can. I have switched over to FMT layout fluid in a spray.


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[00tec]

I've seen it used to fit handgun parts together. There is a lengthy series of videos on youtube of someone building a 2011. Dude brushes this stuff on something like the barrel and slide. He then moves the parts against each other and can easily spot the high points to attack with the file. Rinse, repeat like 20,000 times.

Skip forward to about 9 minutes...

https://youtu.be/6ZzjJPmSsPQ

[KS63]

If I’m scribing a design out on material, I’ll use Dykem. If I’m marking a part that needs to be machined, I’ll use a thinner medium like a permanent marker. Dykem has a habit of puddling and being inconsistent in its depth and/or thickness. When I need to touch my tool (no pun intended) on a part to find Zero, Dykem can affect the actual Zero point and comprise the accuracy of your measurements.

[jerrymrc]

While I like Dykem and grew up on it For many things red, blue, black sharpie works as well if not better. Dykem is long lasting and depending on what your doing it still has its place.

[BPTactical]

The paste is more fun Ron.
Put on the wife's door handles, your buddies tool box pulls etc.....




Not that I would know.....

[rondog]

While I like Dykem and grew up on it For many things red, blue, black sharpie works as well if not better. Dykem is long lasting and depending on what your doing it still has its place.

Yeah, for what I'm doing a Sharpie will probably be fine.

[rondog]

The paste is more fun Ron.
Put on the wife's door handles, your buddies tool box pulls etc.....




Not that I would know.....

Yeah, I wouldn't know anything about that either.....

[Irving]

I looked for some in my shop today while I was there, but there was none to be found.


As far as coating brass, will this stuff last longer than Sharpie when it comes to shooting and tumbling? I find that if I want to use Sharpie to mark my brass, I'll have to re-mark upon ever loading.

[crays]

Irving,

In case you missed it, the purpose of tumbling in to CLEAN your brass.

<insert laughing and pounding floor smiley here>

That said, over zealous application of Dykem could lead to sticking cases.

The dang stuff is unpredictable! If you want it to stay on your part through several operations, bang, it disappears right away. If you are done, and want any remnants off your work piece, good luck...

I jest, but only lightly.

If you are marking for ID at the range, stick with Sharpie (or Marksalot - do they even still make those? - ) and deal with remarking. Dykem will also thicken over time in the container as it evaps, leaving a thicker film layer on down the line.

And to make it harder, you may want to double/triple stripe your brass with different colors if others are using the same method.

Isn't this fun?

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[crays]

And, I have known some more seasoned, reloading competition shooters to color code their brass based on number of times fired.

If you looked in their range bag, there would be several different color stripes on their ammo and brass.

Needless to say, at a certain color, they didn't even bother picking it up.

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[Irving]

Hmm, thanks. Just curious as I've seen guys at the range with bright red dye on the base of their brass that is pretty easy to see.

[rondog]

If I wanted to mark my brass, I'd only put the dye on the headstamp. Painting the whole case is just silly.

[crays]

Same problem. Accumulation of Dykem on bolt face could lead to issues. Sharpie would be better there.

But, harder to see headstamp-marked brass as opposed to a Mark on the body, once it hits the gravel.

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[crays]

And you don't paint the whole case, just a thin stripe around the circumference.

ETA: thickness of stripe is at your discretion ; )

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