View Full Version : CO Senate considering bill to charge $.25 for using plastic bags
So our benevolent "leaders" at the capitol are pushing to ask us to pay a little more to use those awful plastic bags! Although they had Senate President Kevin Grantham on KHOW this morning say that it wouldn't make it through the (R) controlled senate. So maybe, maybe not?
Colorado Politics reports on the proposal- which thankfully would go to the voters (because it's a tax, not a "fee"), which might not give me much hope, considering most CO voters these days seem like they are "environmentally friendly."
A 25-cent Colorado plastic bag tax proposed by Rep. Paul Rosenthal and Sen. Lois Court
The bill, if passed, would refer a measure onto the ballot to ask Colorado voters to approve a tax on plastic bags from the supermarket. The tax would be a quarter, the same amount whether the customer at the checkout counter uses one bag or several. The proceeds would go to grants and loans to local governments and building contractors to build or retain affordable housing in Colorado.
The text of House Bill 1054 can be read by clicking here (http://leg.colorado.gov/bills/hb18-1054).
Compared to runaway housing prices, the bag tax comparably is a small price to pay, The tax, they project, could raise $50 million a year.
“No matter where I go or who I talk to, the sky-high cost of housing is the number one concern that I hear,” Rosenthal said in a statement.
Court said, “Even with the construction of a large number of new condos, the leases are expensive and not bringing down the cost of housing in the city,” she said. “We see many areas of the state dealing with this issue—it’s not just the Denver metro area.”
As a bonus, the tax would encourage the use of reusable or paper bags and raise awareness of plastic bag waste in Colorado.
“Plastic bags pollute and litter our environment, plus they’re an eyesore and they don’t biodegrade,” Rosenthal said. “We have to be far more aggressive when it comes to curbing our daily waste, which only adds to the mountainous heaps of garbage that currently litter our state.”
Several Colorado cities already tax (http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/08/21/colorado-towns-and-cities-that-have-plastic-and-paper-bag-fees/) plastic bags, “proof that the system works in the state,” according to Rosenthal.
Boulder passed a 10-cent fee on all disposable paper and plastic bags and reduced in 2013, and the next year bag use dropped 69 percent in the city, the Boulder Daily Camera reported (http://www.dailycamera.com/news/boulder/ci_30410314/should-boulders-effective-but-static-grocery-bag-fee).
The bill carves out exemptions for restaurants and those eligible for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
LINK (https://coloradopolitics.com/plastic-bag-tax-colorado/)
MODS: If this belongs in the legislation and politics section I apologize- I figured it was appropriate in GD due to not being firearm related.
thedave1164
01-17-2018, 11:56
ha, I already request paper bags
wanna sh1+h0le state? cuz that is how you get one along with the other crapiefornia ideas they push
I guess it's a slow legislative session if this is what they're focusing their attention to.
Zundfolge
01-17-2018, 12:06
They want us to use cloth bags because cloth bags are disease ridden and the more of us that get sick, the mores of us will demand single payer health care so they can control our precious bodily fluids.
(I'm only half joking)
I'm going to buy my plastic bags by the case, and sell them outside stores for 10 cents each.
Sent from somewhere
But if people stop using plastic bags, they will recycle less and then we will get pegged for not recycling. The only way to save the environment by the arch sacrament of recycling is to use more bags. Why does the Demoncratic party hate the environment!?
StagLefty
01-17-2018, 12:23
According to a guest politician on KHOW this morning it doesn't stand a chance of passing.
Zundfolge
01-17-2018, 12:33
But if people stop using plastic bags, they will recycle less and then we will get pegged for not recycling. The only way to save the environment by the arch sacrament of recycling is to use more bags. Why does the Demoncratic party hate the environment!?
Also if you use cloth bags, you'll have to wash them regularly, thus using more water in a very dry state. Its idiotic.
I'm going to buy my plastic bags by the case, and sell them outside stores for 10 cents each.
I think the proposed tax is .25 on your whole tab if you want bags, not .25 each bag.
The arguments against this are just as stupid as this tax in the first place.
Sin taxes are immoral, what else needs to be said?
SNIP...
The proceeds would go to grants and loans to local governments and building contractors to build or retain affordable housing in Colorado.
SNIP...
The bill carves out exemptions for restaurants and those eligible for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program.
So, if you're on food stamps, you're exempt... Seems like I see an inordinate amount of stray plastic bags and other ground litter in areas prone to a high percentage of "benefit recipients". Seems to me, they're giving those least likely to recycle in the first place, and most likely to benefit from the funding, a free pass in this Common Sense legislation.
Why am I not surprised?
Also if you use cloth bags, you'll have to wash them regularly, thus using more water in a very dry state. Its idiotic.
I think the proposed tax is .25 on your whole tab if you want bags, not .25 each bag.
Yeah I saw that after I read the quoted portion of the article. Guess I'm not retiring early after all... [Coffee]
They want us to use cloth bags because cloth bags are disease ridden and the more of us that get sick, the mores of us will demand single payer health care so they can control our precious bodily fluids.
(I'm only half joking)
My response was going to be e.coli for everyone!
Every time I see a cat lady in front of me take out nasty reusable bags I shudder. I wish I could sterilize the belt myself.
ETA: Oh, I see now this is for affordable housing. Which is just as important as affordable healthcare.
After driving up the cost of living in the state, they want to make it more expensive to live by increasing taxes. "We have to take your paycheck so you can afford to live."
Why can't Dims see they are their own worst enemy?
Martinjmpr
01-17-2018, 13:09
We took a trip to San Diego in August. While we were there we had to go to the grocery store and CA has a .10/bag fee for plastic bags. The result is kind of comical - a surplus of plastic bags in every store and people trying to juggle all their stuff without using a bag or carrying around a cardboard box for their groceries.
If this were to pass I'm not sure it would bring in much revenue at all, since people can "opt out" of paying the tax pretty easily.
The other funny thing about the CA law was that it ONLY applied to grocery stores. Any other kind of store you go to, you can get as many plastic bags as you want for free.
GilpinGuy
01-17-2018, 13:25
I'm going to buy my plastic bags by the case, and sell them outside stores for 10 cents each.
Sent from somewhere
Filthy capitalist........[Sarcasm2]
Although they had Senate President Kevin Grantham on KHOW this morning say that it wouldn't make it through the (R) controlled senate. So maybe, maybe not?
According to a guest politician on KHOW this morning it doesn't stand a chance of passing.
See above.
Also if you use cloth bags, you'll have to wash them regularly, thus using more water in a very dry state. Its idiotic.
I think the proposed tax is .25 on your whole tab if you want bags, not .25 each bag.
It is $.25 per visit, not per bag... still, that adds up.
My response was going to be e.coli for everyone!
Every time I see a cat lady in front of me take out nasty reusable bags I shudder. I wish I could sterilize the belt myself.
ETA: Oh, I see now this is for affordable housing. Which is just as important as affordable healthcare.
After driving up the cost of living in the state, they want to make it more expensive to live by increasing taxes. "We have to take your paycheck so you can afford to live."
Why can't Dims see they are their own worst enemy?
This exemplifies my content for the (D) that are in our state legislature. And they have real issues handling the money they already get... so they continue their tax increases.
ETA: This whole making people pay extra for plastic bags is stupid. I understand it's to help cut down on litter/waste, and to "save the environment," but I reuse those bags- they make great small trash can liners, and car trash bags. Also, taxing things out of existence rarely ever works...
I would be willing to pony up and buy a plastic bag for everyone in the Senate. If the tie them over their heads
I would be willing to pony up and buy a plastic bag for everyone in the Senate. If the tie them over their heads
"We're going to play "astronaut". Here's your 'helmet'. Make sure you fasten it securely for the vacuum of space."
fitterjohn
01-17-2018, 13:49
So if I'm reading this correctly they want to tax useong plastic bags then use that money to build housing I'm not able to use rather than use it to recycle the bags? Or am I wrong?
Also is anyone else tired of hearing about how expensive it is to live here? I know it's expensive (raising tax and fees don't make it cheaper). If you don't like how much it costs maybe you should move to a different place. Or maybe I'm just jaded being a native and not like I'm out of staters come here and demand things change.
So if I'm reading this correctly they want to tax useong plastic bags then use that money to build housing I'm not able to use rather than use it to recycle the bags? Or am I wrong?
That's exactly right. Tax us for using plastic bags to help fund "affordable housing." You can blame it on the massive influx of people to the state. There is such a high demand for housing that the costs have shot up well above national averages over the last few years.
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My response was going to be e.coli for everyone!
Every time I see a cat lady in front of me take out nasty reusable bags I shudder. I wish I could sterilize the belt myself.
<SNIP>
That's how I think at the airport too. No offense to pet owners in general, but some of "those" people are gross with all the pet hair on the rollers/belts I see. I try to make sure the tub is clean if I'm wearing a heavy coat that has to go through (I now have PRE), and just about lost my sh*t when my wife threw hers naked on the belt... Good thing I carry a portable lint brush.
fitterjohn
01-17-2018, 14:06
That's exactly right. Tax us for using plastic bags to help fund "affordable housing." You can blame it on the massive influx of people to the state. There is such a high demand for housing that the costs have shot up well above national averages over the last few years.
Isn't that just capitalism which I thought was one of the fundamental principals of this country. Oh I know I was in second grade when everyone moved here to work at hp. All the sudden everyone was from Cali and everyone's dad worked at hp or some other computer type job. And now those same people complain about how much housing cost.
Funny because half my coworkers are out of staters and the only one who doesn't complain is the one from Detroit. The high cost of living was a selling point for them to move here. They have been here 3 years and still can't find the bad part of town or the bad part of the Denver metro area.
Shooter45
01-17-2018, 14:20
This among all other taxes is complete robbery. My family is the only thing that keeps me in this state but it's getting harder and harder to justify. Wyoming here I come.
Martinjmpr
01-17-2018, 15:10
As far as "funding affordable housing" goes, wouldn't it cost the government less to just find the people who "can't afford to live here" and buy them a bus ticket to someplace with a lower cost of living?
Isn't that just capitalism which I thought was one of the fundamental principals of this country. Oh I know I was in second grade when everyone moved here to work at hp. All the sudden everyone was from Cali and everyone's dad worked at hp or some other computer type job. And now those same people complain about how much housing cost.
Funny because half my coworkers are out of staters and the only one who doesn't complain is the one from Detroit. The high cost of living was a selling point for them to move here. They have been here 3 years and still can't find the bad part of town or the bad part of the Denver metro area.
I can point them to some pretty bad areas of the metro area... Hwy 36 & Pecos area can get rough (in terms of the Denver area, compared to S. Houston, Gary, IN, and portions of LA it's not that bad).
And I get that it's capitalism that's the driving force behind cost of living being so high here, along with a myriad of other factors. But I can't help but think it also has a little bit to do with how the state has been run by the Dems over the last 15 or so years. Denver is doing all they can to push the "up and coming" image that it's pushing a lot of the lower income folks into areas outside the county, for the detriment of surrounding areas. It doesn't help that the democrats are notorious for their desire to raise taxes.
BPTactical
01-17-2018, 16:42
I will wholeheartedly endorse our politicians to use plastic bags.
Over their heads.
GilpinGuy
01-17-2018, 16:45
Since it's 25 cents per purchase, I'll have to insist on triple bagging everything, just in case.
0% Fed rate for ~8 years (so a Dim could look successful) isn't Capitalism. It's Corporatism (and I'm being kind).
What has happened in CO isn't organic. The Californians moving here with equity (to spend at any price) should still be stuck upside down in their houses for another decade or so. 0% then pushed up prices for legitimate buyers who had to compete with fake money. Banks getting huge margin for lending taxpayer money back to taxpayers on taxpayer backed loans (no risk).
People bought on payment, not price, and will be paying mortgages into retirement looking for a social program to take care of them because "Capitalism."
Great-Kazoo
01-17-2018, 16:49
Maybe the D's will compromise. Like another forum member says they have on gun laws [ROFL3]
Zundfolge
01-17-2018, 17:00
0% Fed rate for ~8 years (so a Dim could look successful) isn't Capitalism. It's Corporatism (and I'm being kind).
"Corporatism" is how polite people say Fascism.
Ok, for all the compromise a$$holes on this site...
Group this and the mag capacity repeal together and we have a deal. They both pass and are signed, or whichever one passes by itself is idled until the other passes and signed.
As far as "funding affordable housing" goes, wouldn't it cost the government less to just find the people who "can't afford to live here" and buy them a bus ticket to someplace with a lower cost of living?
Win.
We just need a really cold snap that lingers. Offer them a bus ticket to SoCal.
Problem solved. Well, maybe just .0000001% solved.
I will wholeheartedly endorse our politicians to use plastic bags.
Over their heads.
Tied into a knot.
I will wholeheartedly endorse our politicians to use plastic bags.
Over their heads.
BP in 2020 [Beer]
Tied into a knot.
With a zip belt so they cant take it off
When I heard this I thought it was a crap thing to do. Then when I heard it was to subsidize affordable housing I was pissed. Most of the affordable housing when first completed is nicer than where I live. They raised property taxes to build a new school, for people that don't pay taxes. I live in housing that is affordable to me. Make these other folks figure it out. I have yet to see affordable housing or Habitat for Humanity houses look good much more than 2 years later. People that cant afford a house usually don't paint and mow.
I don't have an issue with the 25 cents but if they're going to sell or even mention it as a way to reduce waste and save the environment, then the proceeds better go to an environmental cause.
BushMasterBoy
01-17-2018, 22:18
I think the hemp growers are behind this. You can't smoke it, so make bags out of it. If it ain't grown, it is mined. A website logo on the bag would be cool. Excuse me for my drivel.
Shooter45
01-17-2018, 22:26
When I heard this I thought it was a crap thing to do. Then when I heard it was to subsidize affordable housing I was pissed. Most of the affordable housing when first completed is nicer than where I live. They raised property taxes to build a new school, for people that don't pay taxes. I live in housing that is affordable to me. Make these other folks figure it out. I have yet to see affordable housing or Habitat for Humanity houses look good much more than 2 years later. People that cant afford a house usually don't paint and mow.
Just a few years after they build the new "low income housing" they level it as they animals living there have destroyed it. People that don't have to pay for it don't appreciate it so they break out windows, graffiti it, destroy it. Make it look like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, which still looks the same a few years ago when I was there with plywood doors and plastic windows "waiting" for the government to pay for everything...
More "nanny state" creep. [Shake]
Some people in Nederland have their nose up the Boulder butt. One of the town trusties rammed this through town. The two big stores, in town, historically use 1/2 the plastic bags of any other store their size. Not good enough for this peckerhead. Only one business, in town, charges the tax.
An unintended consequence is that Ned. used to have dog poop dispensers stocked by plastic grocery sacks. Bag tax passes and all the dispensers dry up. Now town has to buy bags and had to install spiffy (expensive) bag dispensers. Cost more than the tax brings in.
It is sad driving East Colfax, out to Bennet, and seeing all the bags on the fences and in the weeds.
I don't have an issue with the 25 cents but if they're going to sell or even mention it as a way to reduce waste and save the environment, then the proceeds better go to an environmental cause.
Spending the taxes on eco-religion doesn't sound fiscally responsible to me.
Spending the taxes on eco-religion doesn't sound fiscally responsible to me.
Reduced waste IS fiscal responsibility. As is mitigating future damages that are preventable.
Reduced waste IS fiscal responsibility. As is mitigating future damages that are preventable.
So...I'm paying for my waste disposal, and paying a tax on plastic bags helps me how?
Now if you want to talk about reduced fiscal waste in Govt...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
So...I'm paying for my waste disposal, and paying a tax on plastic bags helps me how?
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The way this bill is written it doesn't, but of course you're intentionally missing the point now.
RblDiver
01-18-2018, 02:20
Since it's 25 cents per purchase, I'll have to insist on triple bagging everything, just in case.
Triple? Hell, I'll go through the self checkout and just dump them all in. Ten-tuple bag it all!
BPTactical
01-18-2018, 08:59
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
Hammer, meet nail
Honest question:
Just how is this monitored at the store level? Is it Honor System?
If anyone has actual knowledge/experience in this area, I would be curious to know.
I would assume it is a standard charge that requires a manual override? Maybe SNAP card will automatically override it? Will a person with a SNAP card that may be paying by other means get the manual override (the bill only requires eligibility for SNAP). What if I technically qualify for SNAP, but choose not to participate?
This thing seems to be a ripe candidate for abuse.
And so the Californication begins...
Wait, I meant continues.
GilpinGuy
01-18-2018, 09:47
We all know this is just another way to separate you from your money (aka stealing your labor). Low income housing......fuck that. Any way they can, they'll sell you on how to give your money to the state. And so many buy their shit it's freaking amazing to me. The state lies when it speaks, and everything it has aquired it has stolen. We all know the actual quote.
Now, back to Dancing with the Stars and what really matters.
Just a few years after they build the new "low income housing" they level it as they animals living there have destroyed it. People that don't have to pay for it don't appreciate it so they break out windows, graffiti it, destroy it. Make it look like Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans, which still looks the same a few years ago when I was there with plywood doors and plastic windows "waiting" for the government to pay for everything...
Exactly! Look at any housing project- they treat that place like crap. Why? They have no financial interest or investment into it, so who cares, right?
Honest question:
Just how is this monitored at the store level? Is it Honor System?
If anyone has actual knowledge/experience in this area, I would be curious to know.
I would assume it is a standard charge that requires a manual override? Maybe SNAP card will automatically override it? Will a person with a SNAP card that may be paying by other means get the manual override (the bill only requires eligibility for SNAP). What if I technically qualify for SNAP, but choose not to participate?
This thing seems to be a ripe candidate for abuse.
I'm curious how this would work too... Seems like self-checkout would make it impossible to enforce.
The way this bill is written it doesn't, but of course you're intentionally missing the point now.
I guess I don't understand your point. The way the bill is written, it's yet another redistribution of wealth scheme. It has nothing to do with waste or fiscal responsibility.
Ever been to a Section 8 housing area? There's little crime and they're just lovely. [Sarcasm2]
As for 'saving the planet', read up on the trillions spent on the hopes of a fraction of a degree reduction in temperature rise. Meanwhile, you have people at the lowest end of the economic spectrum being stifled trying to use their available resources (like coal) to improve their quality of living. Adaptation to any change makes more sense morally and fiscally. Meanwhile, the science is far from settled.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0aFPXr4n4
Perfect reference. Forgot about this clip. Maybe the earth wanted plastic? [Coffee]
With every new law comes inforcement. Gotta get paid somehow.
Ever been to a Section 8 housing area? There's little crime and they're just lovely. [Sarcasm2]
Yes, I used to own a whole building of Section 8 housing, or the local equivalent anyway.
GilpinGuy
01-19-2018, 08:40
Yes, I used to own a whole building of Section 8 housing, or the local equivalent anyway.
I'm curious. How did folks leave the property when they moved out? Normal wear and tear, kinda beat up or trashed? I know regular landlords that have some wicked stories. And where was it? Location makes a difference I guess.
No one here would say anything was in an acceptable condition, but it was pretty much what we expected. Since the units were only 550 sq/ft each, we just resigned to pull carpet and paint each time someone left or was evicted. One time the place was "trashed," but only to the extent of a broken light fixture and very wet carpet. Some tenants kept their place pretty clean and we never really had complaints or issues with them. Those were usually the long term tenants that had lived there forever and were just doing their thing. I forget the specific rent control programs that we used, but one was something like Aurora Housing and the other was a Veterans housing program.
Location makes a difference I guess.
That would be my bet. The Section 8 housing I'm familiar with was in the Fair Park area of Dallas in the late '80s. The security company I worked for at the time had the armed security contract there. It seemed to be inhabited by vampires. During the day, you hardly saw a soul. At night, the place was bristling with activity, especially drug activity. It wasn't pretty.
I can imagine some places aren't nearly that bad.
Oh, I forgot the location. It was around 19th and Dayton, just West of the hospital.
LOL Epic fail...
Reusable bags are prime carriers for Wuhan virus. Customers should ditch the reusable bags and use clean single use bags.
Do you a source for that? The virus lasts the longest in the open on plastic and stainless steel. Plus, just because plastic bags are "new" I probably wouldn't consider them to be especially clean.
mindfold
03-17-2020, 17:27
We really need a sarcasm font.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
The virus also likes moisture, where it can remain viable outside the host longer.
I bet we're one of the safer spots in that regard.
It's difficult to tell with some members.
Do you a source for that? The virus lasts the longest in the open on plastic and stainless steel. Plus, just because plastic bags are "new" I probably wouldn't consider them to be especially clean.
Eric P is correct; reusable grocery bags are potentially good carriers in part because nobody ever washes them and part because the virus lasts on surfaces 2 to 3 days (possibly 9). This article has several links to peer-reviewed research reports on the problems. Not the biggest of worries but not to be laughed at either.
https://www.city-journal.org/banning-single-use-plastic-bags-covid-19
Only shopping reusable bag I use is those Ikea blue bag. An iconic bag for online seller/reseller.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ikea+bag+reseller
When I was at Walmart not buying TP, the mentally challenged individual working the checkout informed me that Walmart will be charging you for bags beginning in June. Or maybe it was July. One of the J months.
Eric P is correct; reusable grocery bags are potentially good carriers in part because nobody ever washes them and part because the virus lasts on surfaces 2 to 3 days (possibly 9). This article has several links to peer-reviewed research reports on the problems. Not the biggest of worries but not to be laughed at either.
https://www.city-journal.org/banning-single-use-plastic-bags-covid-19
I think that's been established from the beginning though right? That people who don't wash their bags cause all kinds of issues from cross contamination and salmonella on up the chain to worse stuff. Either way, he was trying to be funny and he's right.
Zundfolge
03-17-2020, 19:25
If this passes, buy your bags in bulk for much less than .25 ea
https://www.amazon.com/Reli-Thank-T-Shirt-Count-Plastic/dp/B07QQF9XP7/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=1M67GG1UYFLRM&keywords=plastic+shopping+bags+1000+ct&qid=1584494612&sprefix=plastic+shopping+bags%2Caps%2C192&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyMkNWTExPNTdLWTRLJ mVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwOTYyMzg0VDQ3R1cxS0NZU0pQJmVuY3J 5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0MDI1NDJKQkpTNkNRMjBKNTgmd2lkZ2V0T mFtZT1zcF9hdGYmYWN0aW9uPWNsaWNrUmVkaXJlY3QmZG9Ob3R Mb2dDbGljaz10cnVl
If nothing else I'd need to buy those to empty the cat box. Thankfully here in KS the state legislature is looking into drafting a law banning charging for or banning bags.
ETA
here's an even cheaper one
https://www.amazon.com/TashiBox-Shopping-Reusable-Disposable-Grocery/dp/B07KWX88NB/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1M67GG1UYFLRM&keywords=plastic+shopping+bags+1000+ct&qid=1584494746&sprefix=plastic+shopping+bags%2Caps%2C192&sr=8-3
I'm busy killing the environment. 1 disposable bag at a time.
I use all those grocery bags for the cat litter, the dog crap, and to line all the bathroom trash cans. I still have more than I can use though. I often turn down bags at gas stations, liquor stores, or the grocery store if I didn't have a cart to start with. People might think I'm being environmentally conscious, but I just already have too many bags. However, when I have torn bags that I can't use, I at least take the time to tie them in a knot before I throw them away because I don't like seeing them stuck in trees and fences and stuff.
whitewalrus
03-17-2020, 21:08
I use all those grocery bags for the cat litter, the dog crap, and to line all the bathroom trash cans. I still have more than I can use though. I often turn down bags at gas stations, liquor stores, or the grocery store if I didn't have a cart to start with. People might think I'm being environmentally conscious, but I just already have too many bags. However, when I have torn bags that I can't use, I at least take the time to tie them in a knot before I throw them away because I don't like seeing them stuck in trees and fences and stuff.
Most grocery stores and Walmart have the recycle bins for them at the front. If they have holes, I throw them in another with holes till it?s full and then into those bins they go.
The ones without get used as trash bags or other uses. I know many that use them as trash bags. Guess we will have to buy more plastic bags just to throw them in landfills.
I was listening to Michael brown? On 93.7 and was on a rant about how people using the reusable bags and starbucks cups may be spreading the viruses to baristas and baggers from them handling thier stuff vs getting new unused bags.
I was listening to Michael brown? On 93.7 and was on a rant about how people using the reusable bags and starbucks cups may be spreading the viruses to baristas and baggers from them handling thier stuff vs getting new unused bags.
The 7-11 closest to my home has a huge sign on the door at eye level requesting that people not bring their personal coffee cups into the store (due to germs). They ask that you use a new disposable cup and inform them that it is for refill, and they will charge accordingly. They also have a placard about the level of germs, bacteria, etc. on hands, and the importance of handwashing right next to it.
Most grocery stores and Walmart have the recycle bins for them at the front. If they have holes, I throw them in another with holes till it?s full and then into those bins they go.
The ones without get used as trash bags or other uses. I know many that use them as trash bags. Guess we will have to buy more plastic bags just to throw them in landfills.
I didn't know about the recycling, thanks. I wish Amazon would start doing that for their boxes.
I put my Amazon boxes in the trash. More brown matter for the landfill compost. Recycling for most things don't make sense. Metals, sure. Glass, paper, cardboard, no. Turning plastic bottles into polyester for clothing, maybe, but it's not economical. A lot of energy is wasted just moving 'recyclables' around and separating/sorting them. That's why many of the waste management companies aren't doing it anymore.
I reuse all boxes and shipping supplies such as bubble wrap, fill papers, etc.
My main reason is to lower the cost of purchasing shipping supplies. Maybe distant 2nd reason is for environment? :)
whitewalrus
03-18-2020, 15:21
I didn't know about the recycling, thanks. I wish Amazon would start doing that for their boxes.
Often they are hard to find. Look in the entrance area between the sets of doors. You probably walk right past them and wouldn?t know. I never knew they had them either.
Um...how will they know you are using plastic bags at the self serve counter?
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