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Slugjunkie
01-17-2018, 23:01
Have some once fired, bought them new and fired them myself, Federal cases, with FC .223 stamped on the bottom of them. Removed the primers with a Lyman universal decaping die, wet tumble/cleaned them, let them dry for a couple days, lubed and sized with a Hornady custom grade .223 FL sizer. Used a Lyman crimp removal tool (small primer size) on a Frankford Arsenal prep center to remove what appeared to be a crimp at the primer pocket, trimmed them for length and deburred inside and outside of the necks. Thought I was good to go. Straight out of the gate had issues getting the primers to seat (Winchester Small Rifle primers). Thought maybe I missed the crimp removal on a case or two, and employed the crimp removal tool again, it turned easily in the pockets and did not appear to remove any material, so I tried the pocket uniformer tool...it too went in with out hesitation zero material was removed from the primer pocket. Tried a couple different priming tools - RCBS universal priming tool with the appropriate insert & tried using the press mounted priming tool. Still had issues with the primers seating. When a primer did manage to go in it was crooked, or sat too high, or mangled/flattened and otherwise not seated properly. Kept on going and out of 20 or so cases, 8 of them were rendered unusable. Wondering if a swage type primer pocket tool is in order? Perhaps the lot of the cases (300ish give or take) need to be filed in the dumpster or recycled. In the 5 or so years I’ve reloading I have not had this issue after removing the crimp. I tested my crimp removal tool on some LC cases (requiring crimp removal) and had no issue seating the WSR. Don’t think its due to “worn tooling”. Wondered if some ole sages have come across this issue before and are willing to offer some suggestions or solutions.

Thank you for your guidence.

Delfuego
01-18-2018, 14:15
Swage for sure. Much more consistent. There are 2 really good bench-top swagers, Dillon and RCBS. If you're planning on doing a lot of this brass, the bench-top would be a good investment. If you only plan on doing this occasionally, there is an RCBS tool/die that will work in your press.

I personally gave up on swaging military brass. I hated it; waste of my time. Now I will give away (or throw away) any crimped military brass. I only reload uncrimped 233 or 556 that someone else has already processed.

Slugjunkie
01-18-2018, 22:03
Thank you. Been eyeing those two pieces for a while, just wasn’t sure if (guess “when” would be more appropriate) I would need them. Looks like the time has come to consider the investment.

Trigger Time 23
01-19-2018, 10:45
I just bought this. Not sure which press you are using, but this has been working great for me. Just another option.

https://www.hornady.com/reloading/presses/lock-n-load-accessories/primer-pocket-swage-tool

bobbyfairbanks
01-19-2018, 16:42
Just buy a 1050

bobbyfairbanks
01-19-2018, 16:43
Or you can hire out a guy like hoser or me to process your brass for you

Hoser
01-19-2018, 23:09
Or you can hire out a guy like hoser or me to process your brass for you

Cant tell you how many pcs of brass I have processed for people here over the years. Lots of 5 gallon buckets full.

crays
01-19-2018, 23:26
Cant tell you how many pcs of brass I have processed for people here over the years. Lots of 5 gallon buckets full.

Oh, come on... You can tell us...

Slugjunkie
01-20-2018, 13:49
Thank you all. I’ve got an XL650, but it’s lacking some of the more robust features of the 1050. Wouldn’t mind to get one eventually. Looks like I’ll be picking up a Dillon super swage.

jimmym40a2
01-25-2018, 11:18
slug if you have a 650 get the "swageit". it knocks off the military crimp. I have done thousands of them with great results.

Slugjunkie
01-31-2018, 20:52
Got a super swage ordered. Now I’m just playing the hurry up and wait for it to arrive...

Slugjunkie
02-11-2018, 09:35
Super swage was the ticket. Thank you for the wise counsel.

Delfuego
02-11-2018, 13:41
Post your address, we will now ship all our crimped brass to your house. Thanks for joining the forum, looking forward to my brass :)

Slugjunkie
02-14-2018, 21:58
Well you can send the brass to me...[ROFL2].