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Tax, err fee to bypass TABOR, over personal responsibility.
https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2018/02/06/bill-requiring-paid-leave-for-workers-gets-1st.html
Sorry, but you are responsible for your breeding, not me.
KevDen2005
02-07-2018, 09:54
Not that Europeans have the same Constitutional protections we do, but a friend of mine from Germany was saying that employers are less likely to hire women since they are required to give them so much leave and assist them in numerous ways to make life easy for them and hold their job. SO they just hire men instead so they don't have to provide as much support
Could this state get any more fucked up? Why do Dims think our paychecks are their personal playgrounds?!?
This would be devastating for small businesses that pay W2. We can't really take breaks but would see a .33% reduction in pay.
And once again, Feminists raid men's paychecks because all we know men won't see that benefit while being forced to fund it. Never once did I have a corp job were I could take leave like this. I would have been shown the door. Did get to cover female coworkers jobs while they took FMLA plenty of times (in addition to my own). But that's only equal, right?
Even as a woman I'd be pissed. Every worker has to fund this every year, every paycheck, but getting a benefit requires a qualified event.
Thank God we have a GOP Senate. There's a chance this can get stopped.
Nothing is stopping any business that believes in this policy from doing so. It's not like Judy Amabile could face federal charges for paying some woman to stay home w/ her new child. Heck, I think USAA already does not only maternity leave but paternity as well (unsure -- seem to recall that). But if they were to say it's not financially possible for them, what makes them think it's financially possible for any other business or even the tax payers themselves?
However, no fear. I'm doing my part by having my wife stay at home with our little guys. Saves us money and keeps me satisfied that when I see a mark, bruise, etc. on my kids, I can get the straight scoop: "He was knocked over by his brother," "he pulled over the side table on himself," "he was running in the back yard and tripped," etc. Crazy idea, I know, to engage in behaviors which were normal not even 60 years ago.
Nothing is stopping any business that believes in this policy from doing so. It's not like Judy Amabile could face federal charges for paying some woman to stay home w/ her new child. Heck, I think USAA already does not only maternity leave but paternity as well (unsure -- seem to recall that). But if they were to say it's not financially possible for them, what makes them think it's financially possible for any other business or even the tax payers themselves?
Exactly! Taking control away from businesses might take care of employee compensation but it doesn't take care of the business. Who is filling in for these absent workers?
Will the business adjust sick and vacation/person days? There is no law mandating vacation/personal days that I'm aware of. My last vacation was June 2016. I am lucky to get one every two-three years.
However, no fear. I'm doing my part by having my wife stay at home with our little guys. Saves us money and keeps me satisfied that when I see a mark, bruise, etc. on my kids, I can get the straight scoop: "He was knocked over by his brother," "he pulled over the side table on himself," "he was running in the back yard and tripped," etc. Crazy idea, I know, to engage in behaviors which were normal not even 60 years ago.
Will your paycheck be exempt because you have a fulltime caregiver? Nope. You and your wife have to subsidize this stupidity!
Honestly, once I get about a year warming the seat in our NOC, I plan to leave CO for either a higher level network engineer position or "entry" level Security. So, we will not be subsidizing it for very long.
Zundfolge
02-07-2018, 10:39
As a man who may be unemployed soon, i welcome this bit of advantage I'll have over female candidates.
Read about half the article, nothing even remotely made sense for business.
So what if my or your employer already offers this type of leave, would I be exempt from paying this tax? Fvck no! Would I get a pay raise to offset the employer cost saving by having state paid leave? Hell fvking no!!!
This state and all the do gooders need to go mind their own business.
Btw, this would create 200+ additional state employees to run the program. And once started, as it gets abused, the fee would increase to cover the costs, must like the CBI fee. Also free from TABOR spending limits.
I'm on FMLA right now. I don't expect my company or everyone earning a paycheck to finance my time away from work. That is what insurance is for (Short & Long Term Disability Insurance), and that is my responsibility, not the government's.
This is anti-business and pro big government.
This is especially irritating seeing as it's tax season and I'm acutely aware of how much of my paycheck is already going towards these idiots.
If it makes you guys feel any better, DIA was #4 in the US for most firearms in luggage in 2017.
GilpinGuy
02-07-2018, 17:05
I'm on FMLA right now. I don't expect my company or everyone earning a paycheck to finance my time away from work. That is what insurance is for (Short & Long Term Disability Insurance), and that is my responsibility, not the government's.
This is anti-business and pro big government.
This. If you want this kind of leave (whether you expect to need it or not), pay for it yourself through insurance. My wife had 6 weeks of STD for having our little girl. But we paid for the insurance - it wasn't stolen from someone else by government mandate.
BladesNBarrels
02-07-2018, 17:33
Well, you all are just not behaving the way the "thought police" want you to.
Even a feminist is fed up with their criticism
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/katie-roiphe-on-the-metoo-thought-police/
CoGirl303
02-07-2018, 19:04
House Bill 1001, sponsored by Democratic Reps. Faith Winter of Westminster and Matt Gray of Broomfield, would assess a fee of about 0.33 percent on every worker’s paycheck and use the proceeds to create the Family and Medical Leave Insurance (FAMLI) program within the Colorado Department of Labor and Employment.
$46 out of every paycheck I get? I think not. Life requires responsibility. If you don't have money for your time off work, that's your own freaking problem. I had to take a few months off last year for surgery and I had money on hand to do so. I didn't get paid by my employer or by anyone else. Why should every one else have to foot the bill? That's $186 a month.
If that's the case, I demand a 10% cost of living raise.
$46 out of every paycheck I get? I think not. Life requires responsibility. If you don't have money for your time off work, that's your own freaking problem. I had to take a few months off last year for surgery and I had money on hand to do so. I didn't get paid by my employer or by anyone else. Why should every one else have to foot the bill? That's $186 a month.
If that's the case, I demand a 10% cost of living raise.
I think you need another zero in your equation. However, even only $4.60 a check is unacceptable.
hurley842002
02-07-2018, 19:13
I think you did your math incorrectly.I concur, and I suck at math...
If it makes you guys feel any better, DIA was #4 in the US for most firearms in luggage in 2017.
Do they also count through the security line?
In small part thanks to one of our own as I recall, perhaps even currently in this thread.
[ROFL1]
Do they also count through the security line?
In small part thanks to one of our own as I recall, perhaps even currently in this thread.
[ROFL1]
Truth be told, the numbers provide by TSA seem VERY low.
$46 out of every paycheck I get? I think not. Life requires responsibility. If you don't have money for your time off work, that's your own freaking problem. I had to take a few months off last year for surgery and I had money on hand to do so. I didn't get paid by my employer or by anyone else. Why should every one else have to foot the bill? That's $186 a month.
If that's the case, I demand a 10% cost of living raise.
My wife and I are over 55, make pretty good money and without kids so we already take it up the backside on taxes.
They can go fuck themselves with an ebola soaked cactus (stolen from Bert).
CoGirl303
02-07-2018, 19:34
I think you need another zero in your equation. However, even only $4.60 a check is unacceptable.
oops. I'm so tired I can't think straight or even do math right now. $5.12 a paycheck is still $20 a month...I still need a 10% cost of living increase at work. Rent goes up, student loans, gas, car insurance...my wages? not so much. Now they want another $20. no. no no.
That's even more than the Head Tax that Denver and Greenwood Village charge when you work there; which is equally bullshit.
ETA: I was hoping you'd double check your math and tell me you were correct; then I'd start working on my CDL tomorrow morning.
CoGirl303
02-07-2018, 19:44
That's even more than the Head Tax that Denver and Greenwood Village charge when you work there; which is equally bullshit.
ETA: I was hoping you'd double check your math and tell me you were correct; then I'd start working on my CDL tomorrow morning.
That's the 2nd time I've done that today. Earlier I was figuring miles per week * 52 weeks and it came out to $96,600 a year. I was overjoyed. A friend said it didn't sound right, so I re-did it and it came out to $80,700 a year... [Rant1] [Rant2] why couldn't it have just been right the first time? Either way, this should be the final year as a full time truck driver. Hoping to be going for my Associate's Degree in Paralegal next January. Then on to law school if I do well enough.
Here is your chance to voice you opposition to her very liberal agenda. She is looking for more ways to pick your pocket. Senators Martinez Humenik and Moreno and Representative Winter will be holding their second Joint Town Hall of the 2018 Legislative Session this Saturday, February 10.
When
Saturday, February 10, 2018 from 10:00 AM to 11:30 AM MST
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Where
Independent Electrical Contractors Rocky Mountain
11429 Pearl Street
Northglenn, CO 80301
We better stop her from getting into the Colorado Senate where she can push and pass her agenda....
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