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Bumpstocks. Per an article I read you can just show up and turn them in.
Not to be outdone by the Denver Police I am willing to accept any bumpstocks anyone is looking to just give away. I will be more than willing to accept the burden of taking all those illegal Denver bumpstocks.
You can message me here to arrange to meet me and give them up.
(Yah...crickets...)
Bumpstocks. Per an article I read you can just show up and turn them in.
Not to be outdone by the Denver Police I am willing to accept any bumpstocks anyone is looking to just give away. I will be more than willing to accept the burden of taking all those illegal Denver bumpstocks.
You can message me here to arrange to meet me and give them up.
(Yah...crickets...)
You should post a wanted ad on craigslist.
TEAMRICO
02-17-2018, 07:40
I’m gonna cut off all my belt loops and see if they can compensate me for them.....need to find a thumb as well.
OtterbatHellcat
02-17-2018, 08:03
I thought "bump stock" was a Wall Street term?
I too am willing to "accept" any bumpstocks and am located in northern Colorado for anyone looking to escape the oppression for a few hours while surrendering their possessions. No fees for this service. Hell, I'll even buy you a beer.
Great-Kazoo
02-17-2018, 09:20
Would a bump stock used in conjunction with a binary or other trigger, negate the entire process of either?
GilpinGuy
02-17-2018, 09:27
Bumpstocks. Per an article I read you can just show up and turn them in.
I'm sure I can just show up and turn in cash, gold and silver and they'd take it. Is this a mandatory confiscation thing I haven't heard of yet? If not, it's laughable that they'd even announce something like this, if that's what they did.
I snickered when I read the thread title. Somehow I would be really surprised if there was a single officer who was “ready to collect” anything from liberty loving gun owners.
They made be prepared to take voluntary donations of items but I doubt a one of them would be too excited if their supervisor sent them to a residence to collect someone’s personal property.
callerys
02-17-2018, 12:36
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/denver/have-an-illegal-bump-stock-the-denver-police-department-wants-them-back
"We're not trying to take your guns!"
theGinsue
02-18-2018, 12:01
https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/front-range/denver/have-an-illegal-bump-stock-the-denver-police-department-wants-them-back
It's interesting that the article states that "The new language changes the magazine capacity to 15 rounds instead of 21+, putting city law in line with state law" while failing to mention that the state law grandfathered ownership of >15 round magazines and the city law does not.
If Denver city/county passed a law now outlawing >21" televisions (after all, nobody needs a tv bigger than 21") how many people do you think would be willing to turn in without compensation or destroy their legally acquired tv's to be in compliance with the new law?
electronman1729
02-18-2018, 15:32
Someone should turn in a 2x4, a package of rubber bands, a shoelace, and a fake hand. (If the ban passes or has passed or whatever, I don't keep to close an eye on Denver)
Then turn around and sue them for seizure without compensation under 42 U.S.C. §1983 which guarantees attorney fees.
ETA: The idea of the City of Denver having to pony up something like $150,000 in attorney fees over a measly 2x4 and a package of rubber bands is particularly amusing in my imagination.
Perhaps we can do this at the next gun buy back in Denver?
We can sit over tea and build these out of Popsicle sticks.
I keep hearing about these mythical gun buybacks, I've got a Model 38 with a cracked frame that I cannot wait to turn in for beer money.
kidicarus13
02-19-2018, 00:26
I keep hearing about these mythical gun buybacks, I've got a Model 38 with a cracked frame that I cannot wait to turn in for beer money.Right on!
GilpinGuy
02-19-2018, 00:42
Do BB guns count for these buy-backs? I have a a few worthless ones that are literally in my crawl space...been there for a decade or more.
I suppose I could play dumb and say they are .22.
You could play truth and say they are .17. ;)
GilpinGuy
02-19-2018, 03:21
You could play truth and say they are .17. ;)
LOL I could bring in one of the rifles and and tell them it has a "high capacity" magazine since I can pour in like a 100 bbs. Maybe I'll get even more beer money.[Beer]
StagLefty
02-19-2018, 09:08
"I'll give you my Red Ryder bb gun when you pry it from my cold, dead hands" [ROFL2]
68Charger
02-19-2018, 11:22
Since their definition would also apply to thumbs, belt loops and suspenders someone should walk in, advise they've used their belt loop as a "bump stock" as defined by the law- take their pants off, then ask "y'all want my thumbs, too?"
Someone walking into a police station with a bag of thumbs might not be on his way with beer money as quickly as he'd like.
XC700116
02-19-2018, 11:46
I guess I don't understand how the hell anyone is falling for this thing in Denver, there is a state preemption law in place and this "law", it's a city ordinance and nothing more, is by definition illegal and apparently nobody is doing a damn thing about it besides laughing and joking. Granted I guess it will have to be tested in court, but the point is the State should be smacking the City/county of Denver upside the head, and they aren't. That's far more concerning to me than the rest of this circus.
Colorado Revised Statutes § 29-11.7-103 provides:
A local government may not enact an ordinance, regulation, or other law that prohibits the sale, purchase, or possession of a firearm that a person may lawfully sell, purchase, or possess under state or federal law. Any such ordinance, regulation, or other law enacted by a local government prior to March 18, 2003, is void and unenforceable.
Colorado Revised Statutes § 29-11.7-101(2) refers to the regulation of firearms as a matter of “statewide concern” and declares a need for statewide uniformity of regulation in the area of firearms. That statute also declares that inconsistency among local jurisdictions has an extraterritorial impact on state citizens and the general public.5
Moreover, section 18-12-105.6(2)(b) provides that:
[n]o municipality, county, or city and county shall have the authority to enact or enforce any ordinance or resolution that would restrict a person’s ability to travel with a weapon in a private automobile…while traveling into, through, or within, a municipal, county, or city and county jurisdiction….
68Charger
02-19-2018, 12:24
Someone walking into a police station with a bag of thumbs might not be on his way with beer money as quickly as he'd like.
This isn't a buy back- it's extortion "give us the items and we won't fine you $100-999 and/or throw you in jail"
I guess I don't understand how the hell anyone is falling for this thing in Denver, there is a state preemption law in place and this "law", it's a city ordinance and nothing more, is by definition illegal and apparently nobody is doing a damn thing about it besides laughing and joking. Granted I guess it will have to be tested in court, but the point is the State should be smacking the City/county of Denver upside the head, and they aren't. That's far more concerning to me than the rest of this circus.
I don't think it has ever been challenged in court but Denver claims a preexemption to the state laws as Denver existed before the state. I heard some talk that there was even an agreement with the state giving Denver the right to opt out of the state laws that was arranged when Colorado was formed.
Colorado Constitution pdf. Article XX, Section 6 addresses Home Rule.
https://www.colorado.edu/bfa/sites/default/files/attached-files/COLORADO%20CONSTITUTION.pdf
It has been through the courts often. This may help if you a understand lawyer-speak. I don't understand much lawyer-speak so I have no idea if this is a reliable source of information--
https://legisource.net/2011/11/03/when-can-a-local-government-override-state-law-home-rule-cities-in-colorado/
What it says is sometimes Denver laws can over-ride Colorado State laws.
.455_Hunter
02-19-2018, 15:20
It's interesting that they were NOT able to override the CCW law, but supposedly can run amok over other 2A liberties.
It's interesting that they were NOT able to override the CCW law, but supposedly can run amok over other 2A liberties.
I don't know that they really can...just no one really has spent the $ to challenge it.
XC700116
02-19-2018, 16:33
Good to know on the Denver thing, it's screwy as all hell but just reaffirms my general distaste for going anywhere near the place.
GilpinGuy
02-19-2018, 18:10
.....the State should be smacking the City/county of Denver upside the head, and they aren't.
CO is a liberal tax-slave state now, that's why.
bellavite1
02-19-2018, 18:21
I guess I don't understand how the hell anyone is falling for this thing in Denver, there is a state preemption law in place and this "law", it's a city ordinance and nothing more, is by definition illegal and apparently nobody is doing a damn thing about it besides laughing and joking. Granted I guess it will have to be tested in court, but the point is the State should be smacking the City/county of Denver upside the head, and they aren't. That's far more concerning to me than the rest of this circus.
Unfortunately we are not talking about firearms, but rather about accessories and magazines.
Could that be why the famous Denver Assault Weapon Ban was always only about magazine capacity and not specific firearms?
Someone walking into a police station with a bag of thumbs might not be on his way with beer money as quickly as he'd like.
Or by taking off your pants.
kpp80202
02-19-2018, 19:57
I don't know that they really can...just no one really has spent the $ to challenge it.
Bingo. First comes a potentially unconstitutional law, then comes the arrest/penalty, then comes the challenge to the constitutionality of the law. Most folks don’t want to go first.
And...per an article today....there have been exactly...ZERO...turned in to the Denver police to date.
And...per an article today....there have been exactly...ZERO...turned in to the Denver police to date.So the number I read about 2 weeks ago hasn't changed.
It's the number they deserve.
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I want to bring them an old pair of jeans..
Not sure why they would expect anyone in Denver to even own a bump stock since they banned anything that would accept a bump stock back in 1989.
[panic]
Not sure why they would expect anyone in Denver to even own a bump stock since they banned anything that would accept a bump stock back in 1989.
[panic]
That was extensively revised in 2007. As long as there isn't a magazine in it with a capacity of more than 20 rounds it isn't banned.
That was extensively revised in 2007. As long as there isn't a magazine in it with a capacity of more than 20 rounds it isn't banned.
I’m really out of the loop with anything to do with the city or county of Denver. I suppose if I actually resided there I’d likely be better informed.
BPTactical
03-18-2018, 18:47
I think it would be hilarious if somebody turned in a shoelace and bag of rubber bands.
There's no turn in reward fee/gift card/etc., right?
OtterbatHellcat
03-18-2018, 22:52
I think it would be hilarious if somebody turned in a shoelace and bag of rubber bands.
Like.
There's no turn in reward fee/gift card/etc., right?
There is no way Denver would ever pony up the $ when they can just demand you turn them over.
On another note...I too have had the same results as the police. Not one individual has contacted me to just turn in their now illegal bump stock. Not to be outdone by Denver...I would offer to buy a Pepsi for the individuals who turn them in to me.
:D
It's the "New" Pepsi Challenge!
From what I've heard, not a single "bump stock" has been turned in since the ban.
I'm shocked, shocked I tell ya!
I'd be willing to pony up a $5 Chipotle gift card for each bonafide bump stock surrendered to me...no questions asked!
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