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ANADRILL
02-17-2018, 21:21
I was at Tanner today, checking out some pistols, so a guy was there with his dog which seemed friendly and all over me while I am trying to browse, so I reach down and pet the dog on the ear. The owner immediately looses his cool, “read the sign no petting” . I am like dumbass control your fucking dog and moved on...It just irked me that he blamed me when the dog was jumping around in my freaking space...lame Leave the support dogs at home, or if you don’t want them petted, learn to control them..
That's the difference between a "support" animal and a real working dog. Tool.
KevDen2005
02-17-2018, 21:54
Everyone has a support dog in this state. It's ridiculous
Everyone has a support dog in this state. It's ridiculous
Truth.
Yup, saw two at the show with the vests-neither behaved as trained, legit service dogs.
I want to OC a pistol w/ a holster that says "Support Gun". Maybe in red kydex w/ painted mesh for that official look.
KevDen2005
02-17-2018, 22:17
Truth.
There's gotta be a correlation here....
It always seems the trashiest people in society need a "support dog" for their PTSD. The same people who have been mooching off of someone or some entity for the last several years.
Which brings me to this. I remember a decade ago everyone I dealt with had Cancer. Now PTSD is the thing everyone has. Of course non-diagnosed and the most action they ever saw was denial of something they thought they were entitled to.
OtterbatHellcat
02-17-2018, 23:10
I don't think anyone should use the "service dog" privilege unless it's legit. Anyone who does do that has left the path of morality.
I think if you do that...fuvk yourself.
kidicarus13
02-18-2018, 00:25
Yup, saw two at the show with the vests-neither behaved as trained, legit service dogs.Colorado Revised Statutes Title 18 Criminal Code § 18-13-1073 Intentional misrepresentation of entitlement to an assistance animal--penalty--definitions
(1) A person commits intentional misrepresentation of entitlement to an assistance animal if:
(a) The person intentionally misrepresents entitlement to an animal in his or her possession as an assistance animal for the purpose of obtaining any of the rights or privileges set forth in state or federal law for an individual with a disability as a reasonable accommodation in housing;
(b) The person was previously given a written or verbal warning regarding the fact that it is illegal to intentionally misrepresent entitlement to an assistance animal;
(c) The person knows that:
(I) The animal is not an assistance animal with regard to that person; or
(II) The person does not have a disability.
(2) A person who violates subsection (1) of this section commits a class 2 petty offense and, upon conviction, shall be punished as follows:
(a) For a first offense, a fine of twenty-five dollars;
(b) For a second offense, a fine of not less than fifty dollars but not more than two hundred dollars; and
(c) For a third or subsequent offense, a fine of not less than one hundred dollars but not more than five hundred dollars.
(3)(a) A defendant may petition the district court of the district in which any conviction records pertaining to the defendant's first conviction for intentional misrepresentation of entitlement to an assistance animal, as described in subsection (1) of this section, are located for the sealing of the conviction records, except for basic identifying information.
(b) If a petition is filed pursuant to paragraph (a) of this subsection (3) for the sealing of a record of conviction for intentional misrepresentation of entitlement to an assistance animal, the court shall order the record sealed if the following criteria are met:
(I) The petition is filed;
(II) The filing fee is paid or the defendant has filed a motion to file without payment with a supporting financial affidavit and the court has granted the motion;
(III) The defendant's first conviction for intentional misrepresentation of entitlement to an assistance animal was at least three years prior to the date of the filing of the petition; and
(IV) The defendant has not had a subsequent conviction for intentional misrepresentation of entitlement to an assistance animal.
(c) An order entered pursuant to this subsection (3) must be directed to each custodian who may have custody of any part of the conviction records that are the subject of the order. Whenever a court enters an order sealing conviction records pursuant to this subsection (3), the defendant shall provide the Colorado bureau of investigation and each custodian of the conviction records with a copy of the order and shall pay to the bureau any costs related to the sealing of his or her criminal conviction records that are in the custody of the bureau unless the court has granted the motion specified in subparagraph (II) of paragraph (b) of this subsection (3). Thereafter, the defendant may request and the court may grant an order sealing the civil case in which the conviction records were sealed.
(4) A written finding made pursuant to section 12-36-142(1)(a) , 12-38-132.5(1)(a) , or 12-43-226.5(1)(a), C.R.S ., is an affirmative defense to the offense established by this section. The lack of such a finding is not proof of the offense established by this section, and nothing in this section or in sections 12-36-142 , 12-38-132.5 , or 12-43-226.5, C.R.S ., limits the means by which a person with a disability may demonstrate, pursuant to state or federal law, that the person has a disability or that the person has a disability-related need for an assistance animal.
(5) As used in this section, unless the context otherwise requires:
(a) “Assistance animal” means an animal that qualifies as a reasonable accommodation under the federal “Fair Housing Act”, 42 U.S.C. sec. 3601 et seq., as amended or section 504 of the federal “Rehabilitation Act of 1973”, 29 U.S.C. sec. 794 , as amended.
(b) “Disability” has the same meaning as set forth in the federal “Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990”, 42 U.S.C. sec. 12101 et seq., and its related amendments and implementing regulations and includes a handicap as that term is defined in the federal “Fair Housing Act”, 42 U.S.C. sec. 3601 et seq., as amended, and 24 CFR 100.201 .
(c) “Service animal” has the same meaning as set forth in the implementing regulations of Title II and Title III of the federal “Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990”, 42 U.S.C. sec. 12101 et seq.
(d) “State and federal law” includes section 24-34-803, C.R.S ., the federal laws specified in paragraph (a) of this subsection (5), and rules and regulations implementing those laws.
kidicarus13
02-18-2018, 00:26
Everyone has a support dog in this state. It's ridiculousYup
A guy here in southwest denver had a support pony. I saw him several times at Costco and Walmart. Rumor was he wanted to get kicked out so he could file a lawsuit, but the retailers were on to him. Cute little guy, the pony not the owner. I’d guess he stood about 30” tall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9clojZB9fY
I can't stand people bring pets to restaurants or places which sells food.
Some people lacks damn common sense.
BTW, here are lists of list exotic pets whcih are legal to own by states.
https://pethelpful.com/exotic-pets/exotic-pet-legal-state
KevDen2005
02-18-2018, 07:59
A guy here in southwest denver had a support pony. I saw him several times at Costco and Walmart. Rumor was he wanted to get kicked out so he could file a lawsuit, but the retailers were on to him. Cute little guy, the pony not the owner. I’d guess he stood about 30” tall.
Have a friend who rents out his second house and someone applied who had a "disability" and a support dog. My friend asked him what kind of dog it was. I guess the guy got all pissed off and started quoting Colorado and federal laws about how it's illegal to ask questions like that when it's for medical reasoning.
ChadAmberg
02-18-2018, 08:58
Have a friend who rents out his second house and someone applied who had a "disability" and a support dog. My friend asked him what kind of dog it was. I guess the guy got all pissed off and started quoting Colorado and federal laws about how it's illegal to ask questions like that when it's for medical reasoning.
He's an idiot. You're not allowed to ask someone what their disability is, but you are allowed to ask "What specific task does this animal do for you." and things like what kind of dog it is, assuming it's an actual service animal. If it's an ESA, I think you as a landlord are only required to rent to someone with an ESA if you have more than 4 units. If you live in the unit you're renting out, you don't have to do squat. In between, it's a little more of a grey area because you should allow "reasonable" exceptions, but you're definitely allowed to ask about the breed.
Saw a "service dog" in a restaurant at the table. WTF specific task does a shit-su provide? Cow made a big stink to the server saying it was a service dog. Even had a vest for it. I guess I'll get a bag orange tag for my TAC-14 reading "Service Gun" and when asked what service does it provide de? I'll say it makes 9 thirty-three caliber holes in bad guys (or girls) that invade my yin or tip my yang...
GilpinGuy
02-18-2018, 09:17
I run into folks bringing dogs into our joint almost daily. No peacocks...yet. Frankly, I don't care if they're a service dog or not, as long as the animal behaves. If it pees or poops on the floor or gets aggressive toward anyone even once, then I'll approach the owner and address it (which means the animal will leave).
In 15 years I've only had to do this a few times.
We have a regular customer who brings in a tiny little (useless, imho) dog in a stroller like it's a baby. Poor dog must wish it could just get the hell out and walk around.
Saw a "service dog" in a restaurant at the table. WTF specific task does a shit-su provide? Cow made a big stink to the server saying it was a service dog. Even had a vest for it.
This is getting out of hand. I am seeing this more and more.
Does not the FDA have rules against this ? I have no problem with a true service dog being brought into this type of area and you can usually see it in the animals behavior.
I am an animal guy but buying a fake vest online and bringing your pet in with you should not be allowed.
Heard about this one on the radio.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.foxnews.com/travel/2018/02/08/spirit-airlines-employee-told-student-to-flush-emotional-support-hamster-down-toilet-student-alleges.amp.html
A guy here in southwest denver had a support pony. I saw him several times at Costco and Walmart. Rumor was he wanted to get kicked out so he could file a lawsuit, but the retailers were on to him. Cute little guy, the pony not the owner. I’d guess he stood about 30” tall.
This might be the same guy I saw at the King Soopers in bear valley last week.
I saw the pony at Target, took a video. And it smelled like a little horse. I saw the dogs at Tanner, not much more than pets. Didn't behave especially well or poorly. On the way home I stopped at Spouts and got to see a guy bleeding near the entrance of the store. Got bit by a dog tied up near the door. Guess the leash was a little too long. The lady returned from shopping, typical millennial in yoga pants. WTF? I thought a basic of life was not infringing on others' enjoyment. What about folks that have dog trauma or allergies?
TheSparkens
02-18-2018, 10:03
I have s GSD that can go everywhere with me and often does. I have a harness each for hunting, fishing, and hiking. I also have one she uses around town. I am asked all the time if she is a service dog, and is it okay if she can be pet. the answer is yes petting but she must sit and stay and if she is in a mood I will make darn sure she doesn't make a move from sitting. The answer for " is she a service dog"? is no she is not and if you would like us to leave we will right away, just like my firearm. I can not stand when someone has a dog and I get its dog nose all over me or lunges at my dog because she will respond but I understand that you may be heading somewhere with your dog and in some areas will have problems with LE if you leave your dog in a car or truck.
Unless you are literally blind the whole service animal thing is just a sham so you can take your favorite pet with you everywhere.
BushMasterBoy
02-18-2018, 11:41
I can see a huge market for support monkeys. Why have a canine, when you can have a primate.
I can see a huge market for support monkeys. Why have a canine, when you can have a primate.
I would work the system to have a support monkey. Maybe I could claim some sort of mental deficiency. I’m sure someone here would vouch for me.
My wife suggested a Hollywood trained Grizzly Support Bear.
StagLefty
02-18-2018, 13:52
I can see a huge market for support monkeys. Why have a canine, when you can have a primate.
Because it has the word "mate" in it [ROFL2]
KevDen2005
02-18-2018, 22:15
I like it. "What function does he perform?"
He eats support dogs. Because they trigger my PTSD.
Well I just spit out pizza!
I can see a huge market for support monkeys. Why have a canine, when you can have a primate.
Look up the Connecticut woman's face after she got attacked by that neighbor's chimpanzee. That and that planet earth segment terrified me.
Great-Kazoo
02-18-2018, 23:06
I would work the system to have a support monkey. Maybe I could claim some sort of mental deficiency. I’m sure someone here would vouch for me.
You're bananas
CoGirl303
02-19-2018, 09:33
If a person has a legit service animal and a need for one, I'm all for it. Better than them having a PTSD episode in public and going bonkers.
But if this bitch had been in my face yelling at me like this, I'd have probably lost my shit and knocked her mouthy ass out.
https://youtu.be/lcMPiCi8Pog
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thedave1164
02-19-2018, 09:38
lots of people looking for a place to rent that accepts pets on FB, FB readers respond on making their pets ESA so they can get around the No Pets allowed.
Most of those suggesting such things have hispanic names and I am sure they already flaunt other laws, playing the system.
It would be pretty easy for most of the folks here to get a PhD in Women's studies to diagnose us with Toxic Masculinity. There, doctor's note. :)
CoGirl303
02-19-2018, 10:55
lots of people looking for a place to rent that accepts pets on FB, FB readers respond on making their pets ESA so they can get around the No Pets allowed.
Most of those suggesting such things have hispanic names and I am sure they already flaunt other laws, playing the system.
If you go see a therapist and say you have depression and you would benefit from having a service dog or cat, they will write you a letter stating you have a need for a service animal. There's a way around just about anything if you are willing to jump through the hoops to do it.
Delfuego
02-19-2018, 11:01
Unless you are literally blind the whole service animal thing is just a sham so you can take your favorite pet with you everywhere.That's not true. It has become a joke and the problem is people are really gaming the system, which pisses me off. However there is a need for some, blind, disabled, etc. Also some of our boys that have served in combat have service dogs and rely on them. They can have whatever the fuck they want in my opinion. There is an organization by my old house in Englehood that trains and provided service dogs to vets and others. These are real service dogs, not a pekingese in a vest.
Not everyone is a useless scammer. Just last night I saw a YouTube video of a guy taking a chop saw to a Labradoddle wearing an orange vest. He said something like, "only the blind need this and I'm not blind."
Not everyone is a useless scammer. Just last night I saw a YouTube video of a guy taking a chop saw to a Labradoddle wearing an orange vest. He said something like, "only the blind need this and I'm not blind."
#NotOneMoreAssistancePet
At some point in the video, his wife is walking around in the yard behind him, wearing super dark sunglasses, and trip over a lawn chair.
Great-Kazoo
02-19-2018, 12:41
My wife's friend since middle school emailed her from Sweden last night. Seems the airline refused to let her Emotional Support Animal, A reindeer named Sausage, on the plane. Needless to say once they clarified Sausage needed to be kept in Cargo, in a food safe container, she was allowed to board .
thedave1164
02-19-2018, 14:09
Don't get me wrong, people that have a legitimate reason for a service animal have my blessings, not that they need it, but a pox on those scamming the system
BushMasterBoy
02-19-2018, 14:15
I still think a service gorilla would be the best choice. 500lbs. On a leash of course. I love this thread.
My wife's friend since middle school emailed her from Sweden last night. Seems the airline refused to let her Emotional Support Animal, A reindeer named Sausage, on the plane. Needless to say once they clarified Sausage needed to be kept in Cargo, in a food safe container, she was allowed to board .
Now I'm all hungry.
jreifsch80
02-19-2018, 17:32
If I were a landlord that had a majority of prospective renters with support animals I would just make the damage deposit (for everyone so not to discriminate) like 6,000$ hahahahaha
Unless you are literally blind the whole service animal thing is just a sham so you can take your favorite pet with you everywhere.
That's a pretty short sighted blanket statement. There are many legit service animals that are not only for the blind or deaf, or even folks that truly suffer PTSD, but those with serious medical conditions that the dog's are trained to deal with - like seizures, diabetes, allergies, etc. http://www.dogster.com/lifestyle/10-types-of-service-dogs-and-what-they-do
I do agree the service/support animal thing is significantly abused and something should be done about that, but there are many valid reasons to have a service animal besides blindness.
Not everyone is a useless scammer. Just last night I saw a YouTube video of a guy taking a chop saw to a Labradoddle wearing an orange vest. He said something like, "only the blind need this and I'm not blind."
Yea, but he only chopped off the tail.
For you guys wanting monkeys didn’t you see “Planet of the Apes”???!!! Doesn’t end well [ROFL2]
KevDen2005
02-25-2018, 00:55
Thought I would rehash this thread with this link. "Emotional Support Dog" bites someone.
http://kdvr.com/2018/02/24/emotional-support-dog-bites-child-on-flight/
Grant H.
02-25-2018, 01:58
I still think a service gorilla would be the best choice. 500lbs. On a leash of course. I love this thread.
No leash, but I'm pretty sure I had to sit next to this service animal on a flight earlier this year...
It sucked.
Scanker19
02-25-2018, 07:01
I don't understand why it isn't regulated like handicapped parking.
KevDen2005
02-25-2018, 07:49
I don't understand why it isn't regulated like handicapped parking.
Because people will throw a fit and the problem is that people with some power will listen....or an attorney will
Great-Kazoo
02-25-2018, 09:11
I don't understand why it isn't regulated like handicapped parking.
WHY? because everyone wants special privilege.
Here's an example. While in CA 1 year we stop for lunch, i tell the daughter should be no problem with parking since i have my hang tag with me. Laughing she says DAD, this is California, EVERYONE'S DISABLED. Sure as shit there were 4 rows of HANDICAP PARKING ONLY signs.
4 rows! probably 1/4 of those i saw getting in and out of their vehicle were wearing jogging clothes. But i shouldn't judge since we all know being disabled doesn't mean it's a visible and physical to the eye.
People game the system 24/7 It's those like me who suffer for it
GilpinGuy
02-25-2018, 09:17
So you can get a handicapped plate/sticker/hangie thing and shit if you have some mental problem but can walk just fine?
ETA: oh I see now. The close parking is so the support animal doesn't have to walk that far. [Sarcasm2]
ColoradoTJ
02-25-2018, 10:22
7361773618Maybe some of these people should look into getting a service gerbil. I mean seriously, they wouldn’t offend other people, could take their gerbil anywhere with discretion and feel like they could conceivably get through the day.
U.S. Department of Service Gerbils
https://m.facebook.com/US-Department-of-Service-Gerbils-1562697007329715/
gnihcraes
02-25-2018, 10:36
So you can get a handicapped plate/sticker/hangie thing and shit if you have some mental problem but can walk just fine?
ETA: oh I see now. The close parking is so the support animal doesn't have to walk that far. [Sarcasm2]
I can walk fairly well and you wouldn't think I'd have a handicap hang tag. I just can't walk very far. Pain is a bitch, I hide it well. :|
No leash, but I'm pretty sure I had to sit next to this service animal on a flight earlier this year...
It sucked.
[ROFL1]
My poor wife was stuck on a flight next to a millennial that she said must not have bathed for days or knew what deodorant was.
Great-Kazoo
02-25-2018, 19:38
I can walk fairly well and you wouldn't think I'd have a handicap hang tag. I just can't walk very far. Pain is a bitch, I hide it well. :|
Those who never experienced it, have no understanding.
OtterbatHellcat
02-25-2018, 19:53
Word.
Those who never experienced it, have no understanding.
Yup.
A bit long, but it expresses my sentiment on this matter better than I can.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/27088/walsh-pets-matt-walsh
A college student from Florida has a harrowing tale to tell.
Belen Aldecosea says she ran into trouble when she attempted to board a Spirit Airlines flight with her emotional support hamster, Pebbles. It seems that Spirit has a policy forbidding rodents from flying in the main cabin with actual human beings, even if they are the sort of rodents who provide emotional support to the sort of people who need emotional support from rodents.
Belen was in a bind. Forced to decide between forgoing the flight or forgoing her beloved hamster — the hamster that she claims she needs — she decided to flush poor Pebbles down the toilet. Belen, of course, blames Spirit Airlines for all of this. But Pebbles, if she could speak from her watery grave, would probably blame the madwoman who drowned her in the bathroom.
This news comes only days after another passenger of questionable sanity tried to board a United Airlines flight with an emotional support peacock. She was also turned away. I'm not sure if she flushed the peacock down the toilet.
Now, I support anyone's right to use a service animal if they have a legitimate disability. But an emotional support animal isn't a service animal any more than a skateboard is a wheelchair. You may find "comfort" in your rat or your bird or your pig or your llama, but you can't turn an airplane into a flying zoo just because it makes you comfortable. Your comfort is not the concern of everyone else, and the rest of us are significantly less comfortable when forced to share our accommodations with a bunch of non-human critters. A blind man who uses a service dog is being reasonable and asking the rest of us to make a reasonable concession for his sake. A college student who carries her rodent around like a purse is being selfish and demanding that the rest of us acquiesce to her selfishness.
This, anyway, seems to be the analysis of most critics of the emotional support animal epidemic. They say that these people are self-centered and immature, and the whole thing is just another symptom of the increasing infantilization of American culture. It is that, to be sure. It's also, we should note, dishonesty. A woman who pretends her favorite pet is a service animal can be considered no better than a woman who pretends to be wheelchair-bound so that she can go to the front of the line at Disney World. For some reason we don't treat the emotional support animal scam with the same contempt that we treat a car illegally parked in a handicap spot, but we should. It's immoral as well as annoying and childish.
But I think the problem runs deeper. What lies at the root of the emotional support animal invention is the increasing humanization of animals in western society. A person who insists on bringing their animal everywhere suffers from the delusion that his animal is basically another person and deserves to be treated as such. It's no surprise that people would develop this bizarre idea in a country where we take our pets to spas and buy alcohol-free wine for our dogs and overall spend **69 billion dollars a year** feeding and pampering our animals. In our culture, we tend to empathize more with animals than our fellow human beings, and many in my generation prefer the company of lesser creatures so much that they've decided to have pets rather than kids. Of course that's not nearly as sick and deranged as the large share of parents who have both pets and kids, and consider their "fur children" and their real children to be equal. In fact, many Americans prefer to spend time with their pets than their spouses. It seems, given the choice, a certain percentage of parents would rather stow the baby in a cage below deck and bring the dog on board.
Years from now, historians will look at our culture's devolution into pet worship and write many volumes attempting to diagnose it. But I think the cause is quite clear, and has already been mentioned above: selfishness. To love another human being is to sacrifice. It is to come out of yourself and put someone else's needs above your own. To love a child or a spouse is to serve, to give. Modern man is not willing or able to forget himself or put anyone higher than himself, so he targets his affections toward his gerbil or his poodle instead. That way he can feel like he's "loving" something without actually having to do anything or change his life in any significant way.
But it's not really love. Yes, some people do love their pets, and love them in a healthy way, by loving them in accordance with the natural order of things. But people who love their pets more than they love people don't actually love pets at all. They don't love anything. More precisely, what they love about the pet is what it does for them and how it makes them feel. They love themselves through their pets. The animal is a blank slate that the loveless modern man can turn into a little avatar of himself. He worships his dog because his dog worships him.
People are more complicated. They will not lie at your feet. They will not slobber over you. They will not sit there to be rubbed or cuddled as long as you wish. They are not accessories that you can carry around for "emotional support." Their needs are more complex. It is work to love them, and it involves an emotional risk. This is all too much for a selfish person so he retreats to the lesser, simpler, self-centered "love" of his cat or his parrot. And, as I've found, he's often pretty straightforward about his selfish motivations.
A few weeks ago, I tweeted a simple observation noting how we tend to "idolize and humanize" our pets, which, I said then and say now, is a sign of the moral and intellectual decline of western civilization. Thousands of enraged people responded, incensed at the very notion that there could be anything at all wrong with humanizing something that is not human. Many of them justified their idol worship by explaining that a dog has never lied to them, cheated them, stolen from them, or stabbed them in the back. They surmise that dogs must be "better than people" because they have never been personally inconvenienced by a dog.
Of course, a tree or a rock or an orange has never lied to anyone, either. A paper towel has never cut me off in traffic. A pair of shoes has never taken too long ordering food in the drive thru while I'm starving to death a few cars behind. A box of crayons has never texted in a movie theater. A dandelion has never deleted the show I had saved on the DVR. Plants, animals, and inanimate objects have never committed any evil acts at all, because they are not capable of committing evil acts. It is not a mushroom's superior virtue that prevents it from becoming a terrorist; it is the fact that it's a mushroom. Your dog cannot hurt you like your brother can hurt you, because he is a dog. It's not that he's making better moral choices than the humans in your life, it's that he's not making any moral choices at all.
There is another side to this coin. Animals are not capable of evil but neither are they capable of virtue. They cannot be cowardly but neither can they be courageous. They cannot tell you a lie but neither can they tell you the truth. They cannot stab you in the back but neither can they empathize with you. They cannot build bombs but neither can they build cities. It is a real shame that so many people prefer a creature that lacks the capacity for evil over a creature who has the capacity for goodness.
It is pure unadulterated narcissism that leads a man in this direction. He is rejecting the entire human race because the human race requires too much of him. It is not subservient enough. It will not lie down and lick his palms, so he dismisses it outright. And here is the most tragic thing of all: while he protects himself from greater pains by idolizing a lesser being, he has excluded himself from the greater joy that comes from loving a greater being. I'm afraid that one day, when he's dying alone with only his mutt to mourn him, he'll regret that choice.
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With my knee, spine and surgery history, I could probably get a handicap tag easily. But I can walk fine, 3 miles is no problem, so I don't "need" a tag and wouldn't use it anyway. I'd feel guilty as shit.
But I've known people that would be tickled shitless to find a hang tag in a parking lot, so they could "beat the system" and steal a benefit that they felt they were just as entitled to as anybody else. And they wouldn't feel a damn bit of guilt for it.
GilpinGuy
02-25-2018, 23:46
I can walk fairly well and you wouldn't think I'd have a handicap hang tag. I just can't walk very far. Pain is a bitch, I hide it well. :|
I'm not dissin anyone who needs one. You need one. You can't walk very far.
Can a marathon runner get one if he some other disability? Maybe he's deaf or has 1 arm.
I can't understand the efforts that able bodied people go to in order to park one spot closer to the entrance, especially at any type of store. No matter how close you park, you're walking the entire time you're in the store anyway. What difference does it make?
Actually, I guess I do understand, but it just seems dumb.
I went to Home Depot on 120 and Sheridan today, and there were about 3 to 4 people with dogs.
During the self checkout, the dog was jumping and putting both paws on my left arms. I was so busy that I didn't even care, and just proceed the checkout.
2 other kids including my kid was saying ahhhhh the dog is jumping on me!
This kinda made another delay on few other self checkout.
Assuming people at a self checkout (including ppl in line) makes $60/hr, the cost of having a dog in the store illegally (or against store policy) was about $12 lost in time.
$1/min x 12 people= $12
If dog excrement was found, it would be exponentially worse.
Just wait till a fake service dog is shot for acting like that.
Some people are terrified of dogs, and one jumping on them could make them think they are being attacked by a vicious dog. Bam.
Great-Kazoo
03-05-2018, 08:01
I'm not dissin anyone who needs one. You need one. You can't walk very far.
Can a marathon runner get one if he some other disability? Maybe he's deaf or has 1 arm.
Doctors note / script is all it takes.
Great-Kazoo
03-05-2018, 08:03
I went to Home Depot on 120 and Sheridan today, and there were about 3 to 4 people with dogs.
During the self checkout, the dog was jumping and putting both paws on my left arms. I was so busy that I didn't even care, and just proceed the checkout.
2 other kids including my kid was saying ahhhhh the dog is jumping on me!
This kinda made another delay on few other self checkout.
Assuming people at a self checkout (including ppl in line) makes $60/hr, the cost of having a dog in the store illegally (or against store policy) was about $12 lost in time.
$1/min x 12 people= $12
If dog excrement was found, it would be exponentially worse.
At a big box store [LOL] if the employees are breaking the $15-20 level i'd be surprised
Doctors note / script is all it takes.There's a downloadable form that you need a doctor to write down a few details and sign. Take the form to where you would get your vehicle registration and they can either issue plates or 2 placards. The placards are free. It's almost too easy. The competition around here for handicap parking spaces can be nuts.
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In our culture, we tend to empathize more with animals than our fellow human beings, and many in my generation prefer the company of lesser creatures so much that they've decided to have pets rather than kids.
Is this a bad thing? They're doing us all a favor by not spawning more little liberals narcissists.
It seems, given the choice, a certain percentage of parents would rather stow the baby in a cage below deck and bring the dog on board.
I can think of several flights I've been on where I'd much rather have had Fluffy in the row ahead of me than "sweet little Aiden."
Is this a bad thing? They're doing us all a favor by not spawning more little liberals narcissists.
I can think of several flights I've been on where I'd much rather have had Fluffy in the row ahead of me than "sweet little Aiden."
Ahead is better than behind.
While I can sort of empathize as I have young grandson's, I had a little f*cker behind me kicking my seat on my last flight. At least the parent finally recognized it and made him stop.
At a big box store [LOL] if the employees are breaking the $15-20 level i'd be surprised
The cost of customers time at the checkout.
jreifsch80
03-05-2018, 15:42
Maybe the next time I fly I can say my children are my emotional support animals so they can fly for free so long as they can sit by my feet hahahaha
I went to Home Depot on 120 and Sheridan today, and there were about 3 to 4 people with dogs.
During the self checkout, the dog was jumping and putting both paws on my left arms. I was so busy that I didn't even care, and just proceed the checkout.
2 other kids including my kid was saying ahhhhh the dog is jumping on me!
I would have told the owner to control their animal. Seriously.
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I saw a dog at Home Depot today. I was ready to kick it's brains out if it misbehaved even a little bit. But it didn't. It just stood there and didn't even look at anyone. I left the store absolutely furious that I had nothing to complain about online when I got home.
jreifsch80
03-05-2018, 18:39
If a dog is jumping all over someone at a store and they’re all freaked out I wonder how it would turn out for them if they break leather?
As to Mr Prena's experience, I'd have personally put a knee in the dog's chest. You generally don't have to do it hard, but they get the point. If owner says anything, then you have the polite conversation that starts with "Control your fucking dog!"
As to Mr Prena's experience, I'd have personally put a knee in the dog's chest. You generally don't have to do it hard, but they get the point. If owner says anything, then you have the polite conversation that starts with "Control your fucking dog!"
You win the thread. That's my standard M.O. for a dog that jumps unless commanded to do so.
For lickers, I usually grab their tongue or lower jaw(if I'm confident I won't get bitten). Can't stand a licky dog.
All the girls in the family refuse to knee the dog. I don't know how many times I've pointed out to them that the dog will jump on them, but not me. It's because I only had to knee her a few times before she got the point. When I come home and she's excited to see me, if I don't immediately start petting her, she makes a point to sit down as hard as she can right in front of me. She's so deliberate about it that it usually gets my attention and I pretty her for doing the right thing.
Thanks for the tip.
I seriously dislike animals in private/corporate retail business setting. What I cannot stand is bringing a dog to an restaurant.
If those dogs start shedding near my plate, I am going to put my dandruff on the dog owners food plate.
spqrzilla
03-05-2018, 21:37
I saw a dog at Home Depot today. I was ready to kick it's brains out if it misbehaved even a little bit. But it didn't. It just stood there and didn't even look at anyone. I left the store absolutely furious that I had nothing to complain about online when I got home.
I feel your pain.
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